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guarayakha wrote:Story-wise this teamup doesn't really make any sense, but I'm liking the concept of a Decepticon+Autobot combination.

It's really Mythical God-Autobot combination, considering the fact that Unicron resides with either faction, and the Decepticons are merely his disciples, but I get your point.

guarayakha wrote:Story-wise this teamup doesn't really make any sense, but I'm liking the concept of a Decepticon+Autobot combination.

It's really Mythical God-Autobot combination, considering the fact that Unicron resides with either faction, and the Decepticons are merely his disciples, but I get your point.

Sabrblade wrote:Guys, just take the Takara Prime Nemesis Prime toy and combine THAT with Unicron. There. Problem solved.

Problem NOT solved. In the Prime Cartoon, Nemesis Prime is a human creation. Unicron HATES the humans. Called them parasites, or somthing like that.

Dr. Heavy B wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Guys, just take the Takara Prime Nemesis Prime toy and combine THAT with Unicron. There. Problem solved.

Problem NOT solved. In the Prime Cartoon, Nemesis Prime is a human creation. Unicron HATES the humans. Called them parasites, or somthing like that.

While created by humans, Nemesis itself is not human. Unicron's stealing it and fusing it with himself could serve as an insult to us ("I'm stealing your precious invention and tarnishing it with my own essence.")

Sabrblade wrote:

Dr. Heavy B wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Guys, just take the Takara Prime Nemesis Prime toy and combine THAT with Unicron. There. Problem solved.

Problem NOT solved. In the Prime Cartoon, Nemesis Prime is a human creation. Unicron HATES the humans. Called them parasites, or somthing like that.

While created by humans, Nemesis itself is not human. Unicron's stealing it and fusing it with himself could serve as an insult to us ("I'm stealing your precious invention and tarnishing it with my own essence.")

Unicron pairing himself up with a human creation would likely insult Unicron more. There are about a half dozen humans who know of Unicrons exsistance, compared to the 7 billion wandering around on earth. Not much of an insult. MEANWHILE, the god of chaos (Keyword: GOD) has to resort to teaming up with a human creation, created to resemble a direct decendent of his greatest enemy. Sorry, takara droped the ball (as usual).

I think that Unicrons combining gimmick is awesome looking but with Optimus!!!!!!!!:shock: ...really...that doesn`t make any sense since Unicron is an enemy of Prime not a helper. Why did they put prime with him when really it should be Megatron because he`s evil and would make more sense but then again it would make even more sense if Unicron was on his own.

Dr. Heavy B wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Dr. Heavy B wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Guys, just take the Takara Prime Nemesis Prime toy and combine THAT with Unicron. There. Problem solved.

Problem NOT solved. In the Prime Cartoon, Nemesis Prime is a human creation. Unicron HATES the humans. Called them parasites, or somthing like that.

While created by humans, Nemesis itself is not human. Unicron's stealing it and fusing it with himself could serve as an insult to us ("I'm stealing your precious invention and tarnishing it with my own essence.")

Unicron pairing himself up with a human creation would likely insult Unicron more. There are about a half dozen humans who know of Unicrons exsistance, compared to the 7 billion wandering around on earth. Not much of an insult. MEANWHILE, the god of chaos (Keyword: GOD) has to resort to teaming up with a human creation, created to resemble a direct decendent of his greatest enemy. Sorry, takara droped the ball (as usual).

You act like there would be some sort of teamwork involved in this. FYI, Unicron's no team player. He'd be one in the driver's seat, possessing the Nemesis unit and turning it against its creators. Nemesis is a non-living entity. Unicron could easily turn it into one of his own minions just as he does to other lesser beings. Plus, this Gaia Unicron toy does not represent Unicron himself, but one of his dirt-based avatars. In a sense, Unicron would be using a puppet controlling another puppet since he no longer possesses a corporeal form of his own. Unicron is the ultimate puppet master who takes what isn't his and twists and taints it into something ugly for his own gain. So what if he hate humans? He hate Primus' children (the Transformers, which include the Decepticons) yet still uses them just like he would use Nemesis.

Sabrblade wrote:

Dr. Heavy B wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Dr. Heavy B wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Guys, just take the Takara Prime Nemesis Prime toy and combine THAT with Unicron. There. Problem solved.

Problem NOT solved. In the Prime Cartoon, Nemesis Prime is a human creation. Unicron HATES the humans. Called them parasites, or somthing like that.

While created by humans, Nemesis itself is not human. Unicron's stealing it and fusing it with himself could serve as an insult to us ("I'm stealing your precious invention and tarnishing it with my own essence.")

Unicron pairing himself up with a human creation would likely insult Unicron more. There are about a half dozen humans who know of Unicrons exsistance, compared to the 7 billion wandering around on earth. Not much of an insult. MEANWHILE, the god of chaos (Keyword: GOD) has to resort to teaming up with a human creation, created to resemble a direct decendent of his greatest enemy. Sorry, takara droped the ball (as usual).

You act like there would be some sort of teamwork involved in this. FYI, Unicron's no team player. He'd be one in the driver's seat, possessing the Nemesis unit and turning it against its creators. Nemesis is a non-living entity. Unicron could easily turn it into one of his own minions just as he does to other lesser beings. Plus, this Gaia Unicron toy does not represent Unicron himself, but one of his dirt-based avatars. In a sense, Unicron would be using a puppet controlling another puppet since he no longer possesses a corporeal form of his own. Unicron is the ultimate puppet master who takes what isn't his and twists and taints it into something ugly for his own gain. So what if he hate humans? He hate Primus' children (the Transformers, which include the Decepticons) yet still uses them just like he would use Nemesis.

Well put, much better than I had said it. Also, Unicron puppetception!

Sabrblade wrote:

Dr. Heavy B wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Dr. Heavy B wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Guys, just take the Takara Prime Nemesis Prime toy and combine THAT with Unicron. There. Problem solved.

Problem NOT solved. In the Prime Cartoon, Nemesis Prime is a human creation. Unicron HATES the humans. Called them parasites, or somthing like that.

While created by humans, Nemesis itself is not human. Unicron's stealing it and fusing it with himself could serve as an insult to us ("I'm stealing your precious invention and tarnishing it with my own essence.")

Unicron pairing himself up with a human creation would likely insult Unicron more. There are about a half dozen humans who know of Unicrons exsistance, compared to the 7 billion wandering around on earth. Not much of an insult. MEANWHILE, the god of chaos (Keyword: GOD) has to resort to teaming up with a human creation, created to resemble a direct decendent of his greatest enemy. Sorry, takara droped the ball (as usual).

You act like there would be some sort of teamwork involved in this. FYI, Unicron's no team player. He'd be one in the driver's seat, possessing the Nemesis unit and turning it against its creators. Nemesis is a non-living entity. Unicron could easily turn it into one of his own minions just as he does to other lesser beings. Plus, this Gaia Unicron toy does not represent Unicron himself, but one of his dirt-based avatars. In a sense, Unicron would be using a puppet controlling another puppet since he no longer possesses a corporeal form of his own. Unicron is the ultimate puppet master who takes what isn't his and twists and taints it into something ugly for his own gain. So what if he hate humans? He hate Primus' children (the Transformers, which include the Decepticons) yet still uses them just like he would use Nemesis.

But Unicron would be forced to use a, lets call NP a thing, of human design. The fact is, Unicron would never use the tools of lesser creatures. Also, why on earth would he NEED to. He can create a dozen hundred foot dirt avatars of himself. Combining with a human machine would be pointless. Combining with ANYTHING would be pointless, but especially a machine of human design. Also, while Unicron may hate all Cybertronians, he holds a special hatred for "Primes". You saw how he reacted to finding out Optimus Prime was still alive.

Dr. Heavy B wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:...

But Unicron would be forced to use a, lets call NP a thing, of human design. The fact is, Unicron would never use the tools of lesser creatures. Also, why on earth would he NEED to. He can create a dozen hundred foot dirt avatars of himself. Combining with a human machine would be pointless. Combining with ANYTHING would be pointless, but especially a machine of human design. Also, while Unicron may hate all Cybertronians, he holds a special hatred for "Primes". You saw how he reacted to finding out Optimus Prime was still alive.

At full power, yes, but Unicron just got beaten to a pulp. He won't be doing ANYTHING without some sort of help for some time.