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Takara Tomy Transformers United Hardhead and Reflector On the Way?

Postby El Duque » Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:16 pm

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Remember back when there was talk of Transformers Reveal the Shield Perceptor getting a Reflector repaint/remold, or how about that alternate head that was seen on Generations Warpath's instruction sheet? It looks like these might finally be seeing the light of day. Allspark user Meister79 has posted a solicitation with several interesting listings:

  • United Hardhead
  • United Reflecter
  • United Gremlock
  • United Shock Wave

There are alos a couple of previouly unheard of Transformres Prime Arms Micron figures listed:

  • AM-36 MMOG Thundertron (Massive Multiplayer Online Game?)
  • AM37 Preview Optimus Prime Re-do




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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers United Hardhead and Reflector On the Way?

Postby GuyIncognito » Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:23 pm

What would "United Gremrock" and "United Shockwave" be? The Generations (FoC) Grimlock and Shockwave? Or something else?
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Postby Sabrblade » Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:25 pm

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GuyIncognito wrote:What would "United Gremrock" and "United Shockwave" be? The Generations (FoC) Grimlock and Shockwave?
Likely.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers United Hardhead and Reflector On the Way?

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:38 pm

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I'm guessing "MMOG Thundertron" will be the proper release of PRiD Thundertron as a Star Seeker. And "Preview Optimus Prime redo"... FE Optimus Prime for Arms Micron? Like they did with Megatron?
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers United Hardhead and Reflector On the Way?

Postby GuyIncognito » Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:41 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
GuyIncognito wrote:What would "United Gremrock" and "United Shockwave" be? The Generations (FoC) Grimlock and Shockwave?
Likely.


I just noticed that they have "United Gremrock" priced at the same price point as other Deluxe figures on that list. Isn't Generations Grimlock a Voyager?
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Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:44 pm

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GuyIncognito wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
GuyIncognito wrote:What would "United Gremrock" and "United Shockwave" be? The Generations (FoC) Grimlock and Shockwave?
Likely.


I just noticed that they have "United Gremrock" priced at the same price point as other Deluxe figures on that list. Isn't Generations Grimlock a Voyager?


Yes, but Classics Grimlock is a Deluxe...
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers United Hardhead and Reflector On the Way?

Postby DecepticonFinishline » Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:57 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
GuyIncognito wrote:What would "United Gremrock" and "United Shockwave" be? The Generations (FoC) Grimlock and Shockwave?
Likely.


That shouldn't be the case as the FoC Shockwave is seeing his Takara release in the Arms Micron line.
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Postby kirbenvost » Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:01 pm

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I wonder if any of the remolds will ever see the light of day in North America. Or the Rumble/Frenzy mold, for that matter.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers United Hardhead and Reflector On the Way?

Postby Decatron » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:03 pm

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I've seen that 3rd party one which seems okay, but always wanted an official modern Reflector. Hopefully he gets his own new mold(s).
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers United Hardhead and Reflector On the Way?

Postby Stormrider » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:34 pm

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Gremlock, eh? Is he Grimlock's cousin?

Not sure how I feel about getting Reflector. I am very interested in getting one of the robots that make up Reflector but a deluxe size seems a little large. Also the name should have been Viewfinder, Spyglass, or Spectro since Reflector was the camera.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers United Hardhead and Reflector On the Way?

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:36 pm

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Decatron wrote:I've seen that 3rd party one which seems okay, but always wanted an official modern Reflector. Hopefully he gets his own new mold(s).
More than likely he'll be a redeco of Perceptor since that was Hasbro's original plan all along.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers United Hardhead and Reflector On the Way?

Postby Mindmaster » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:39 pm

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Reflector is a go-getter for me. Hardhead.... Gimme some images, and we'll look into it.

I'm also curious about Grimlock's position. I'd argue he would likely be the FOC Voyager, but someone already pointed out he's priced as a Deluxe. Didn't Takara pull Classics Grimlock into United already?

Shockwave is interesting as well. His FOC toy is already being used in the Japan's Arms Micron line.
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Postby Sabrblade » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:48 pm

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Mindmaster wrote:I'm also curious about Grimlock's position. I'd argue he would likely be the FOC Voyager, but someone already pointed out he's priced as a Deluxe. Didn't Takara pull Classics Grimlock into United already?
They used Classics Grimlock for Henkei! Henkei! Grimlock.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers United Hardhead and Reflector On the Way?

Postby Mkall » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:55 pm

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Man, a United Grimlock would look so awesome.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers United Hardhead and Reflector On the Way?

Postby Mindmaster » Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:01 pm

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Mindmaster wrote:I'm also curious about Grimlock's position. I'd argue he would likely be the FOC Voyager, but someone already pointed out he's priced as a Deluxe. Didn't Takara pull Classics Grimlock into United already?
They used Classics Grimlock for Henkei! Henkei! Grimlock.


I know they released it in Japan sometime. Just wasn't quite sure which of their lines it was. Unless its a re-release or a slight redeco?
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Postby craggy » Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:28 pm

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Postby Sabrblade » Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:58 pm

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Wait, why are these listed as United figures when that line has more or less been converted into PCC via United EX and replaced by the Japanese Generations line?
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Postby KNM2012 » Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:09 pm

All I can say is if "Hard Head" is a Headmaster and "Gremlock" looks more like his G1 counterpart, I will have at least two UNITED pieces in my collection. I swore that I'd buy anything that is an official (read: Takara Tomy) Headmaster figure, and need a Grimlock to cover the "exclusive" Supreme Commander portion of my collection. :-B

Now if Takara Tomy will consider either reissuing Skyfire or adding a Jetfire to UNITED, then I'll be happy with the lack of a proper background for this series. :lol:
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Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:39 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Wait, why are these listed as United figures when that line has more or less been converted into PCC via United EX and replaced by the Japanese Generations line?


The official site still lists both United and United EX in the same section. It would seem logical to use:

- United for Classics up to Generations plus their repaints
- United EX for PCC
- Generations for FoC molds

Which leads me to believe United Grimlock is actually a re-release of Classics Grimlock, not the FoC one. They've done it before with Bumblebee and Rodimus.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers United Hardhead and Reflector On the Way?

Postby Mindmaster » Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:42 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Wait, why are these listed as United figures when that line has more or less been converted into PCC via United EX and replaced by the Japanese Generations line?


The official site still lists both United and United EX in the same section. It would seem logical to use:

- United for Classics up to Generations plus their repaints
- United EX for PCC
- Generations for FoC molds

Which leads me to believe United Grimlock is actually a re-release of Classics Grimlock, not the FoC one. They've done it before with Bumblebee and Rodimus.


What makes even more sense in response to this is Grimlock's newfound popularity, possibly contributing to an "Evolution of Grimlock" pack, similar to the three pack "Evolution of Bumblebee" we seen several years back.
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Postby rpetras » Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:40 pm

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Postby KNM2012 » Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:56 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Wait, why are these listed as United figures when that line has more or less been converted into PCC via United EX and replaced by the Japanese Generations line?


The official site still lists both United and United EX in the same section. It would seem logical to use:

- United for Classics up to Generations plus their repaints
- United EX for PCC
- Generations for FoC molds

Which leads me to believe United Grimlock is actually a re-release of Classics Grimlock, not the FoC one. They've done it before with Bumblebee and Rodimus.


It would be very odd for them to use "Classics" Grimlock on account that they used it for the Henkei! line. So honestly, seeing how the Beast Wars pieces were originally unused "anniversary" molds, I am starting to hope and worry (at the same time) that they will not be using the Walmart exclusive "Transformers: Dinobots" version.
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Postby Sabrblade » Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:14 pm

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KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:It would be very odd for them to use "Classics" Grimlock on account that they used it for the Henkei! line.
Like Jelze said, they resused both Classics Bumblebee and Classics Rodimus, not to mention Classics Megatron, for United.

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:So honestly, seeing how the Beast Wars pieces were originally unused "anniversary" molds, I am starting to hope and worry (at the same time) that they will not be using the Walmart exclusive "Transformers: Dinobots" version.
Doubt it. They haven't used a mold that old for United yet, as that was a 1996 Beast Wars mold redecoed for the 2003 Wal-Mart Dinobots release.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers United Hardhead and Reflector On the Way?

Postby KNM2012 » Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:29 am

Sabrblade wrote:Like Jelze said, they resused both Classics Bumblebee and Classics Rodimus, not to mention Classics Megatron, for United.


I'll remember that when I look at the reason why they reissued those figures. But it also does not explain why the list has every Generations/Fall of Cybertron figure being listed as a UNITED figure.

Or did you not mention that on the fanpage I found you tied to? :-?

Oh, and please note that I respect Jelze on account she listens to those who disagrees with her (HINT!)... And know that making said conclusion is a common thing to do. But do not use her as a means of being right. Thanks.

Sabrblade wrote:Doubt it. They haven't used a mold that old for United yet, as that was a 1996 Beast Wars mold redecoed for the 2003 Wal-Mart Dinobots release.


Yet you have given me so many reasons not to use that as a reliable fact. >:oP My point is that I hope they do not do it, as they reissued not only Cheetus and Dinobot in 2008, but also numerous Hasbro sets in a traditional manner they established in 1985. However, I am not going to rule them out on account that they are usable and may possibly be used as a "UNITED" (or something among those lines) version of Dinoforce.

And if they do... They better add Star Saber into the mix. :michaelbay:
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Postby Primacron's Little Helper » Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:46 am

Awesome news about Hardhard - I passed on deluxe Warpath in favour of the legends version, I'm happy about finally get a version of that mold. Not too worried about Reflector as I'm happy with my Perfect Effect team.
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