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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers United Hardhead and Reflector On the Way?

Postby rpetras » Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:40 pm

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers United Hardhead and Reflector On the Way?

Postby KUMA-NIN Maximus » Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:56 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Wait, why are these listed as United figures when that line has more or less been converted into PCC via United EX and replaced by the Japanese Generations line?


The official site still lists both United and United EX in the same section. It would seem logical to use:

- United for Classics up to Generations plus their repaints
- United EX for PCC
- Generations for FoC molds

Which leads me to believe United Grimlock is actually a re-release of Classics Grimlock, not the FoC one. They've done it before with Bumblebee and Rodimus.


It would be very odd for them to use "Classics" Grimlock on account that they used it for the Henkei! line. So honestly, seeing how the Beast Wars pieces were originally unused "anniversary" molds, I am starting to hope and worry (at the same time) that they will not be using the Walmart exclusive "Transformers: Dinobots" version.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers United Hardhead and Reflector On the Way?

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:14 pm

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KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:It would be very odd for them to use "Classics" Grimlock on account that they used it for the Henkei! line.
Like Jelze said, they resused both Classics Bumblebee and Classics Rodimus, not to mention Classics Megatron, for United.

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:So honestly, seeing how the Beast Wars pieces were originally unused "anniversary" molds, I am starting to hope and worry (at the same time) that they will not be using the Walmart exclusive "Transformers: Dinobots" version.
Doubt it. They haven't used a mold that old for United yet, as that was a 1996 Beast Wars mold redecoed for the 2003 Wal-Mart Dinobots release.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers United Hardhead and Reflector On the Way?

Postby KUMA-NIN Maximus » Sat Nov 03, 2012 1:29 am

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Sabrblade wrote:Like Jelze said, they resused both Classics Bumblebee and Classics Rodimus, not to mention Classics Megatron, for United.


I'll remember that when I look at the reason why they reissued those figures. But it also does not explain why the list has every Generations/Fall of Cybertron figure being listed as a UNITED figure.

Or did you not mention that on the fanpage I found you tied to? :-?

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Sabrblade wrote:Doubt it. They haven't used a mold that old for United yet, as that was a 1996 Beast Wars mold redecoed for the 2003 Wal-Mart Dinobots release.


Yet you have given me so many reasons not to use that as a reliable fact. >:oP My point is that I hope they do not do it, as they reissued not only Cheetus and Dinobot in 2008, but also numerous Hasbro sets in a traditional manner they established in 1985. However, I am not going to rule them out on account that they are usable and may possibly be used as a "UNITED" (or something among those lines) version of Dinoforce.

And if they do... They better add Star Saber into the mix. :michaelbay:
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers United Hardhead and Reflector On the Way?

Postby Primacron's Little Helper » Sat Nov 03, 2012 6:46 am

Awesome news about Hardhard - I passed on deluxe Warpath in favour of the legends version, I'm happy about finally get a version of that mold. Not too worried about Reflector as I'm happy with my Perfect Effect team.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers United Hardhead and Reflector On the Way?

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:19 am

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KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Like Jelze said, they resused both Classics Bumblebee and Classics Rodimus, not to mention Classics Megatron, for United.


I'll remember that when I look at the reason why they reissued those figures. But it also does not explain why the list has every Generations/Fall of Cybertron figure being listed as a UNITED figure.

Or did you not mention that on the fanpage I found you tied to? :-?

Oh, and please note that I respect Jelze on account she listens to those who disagrees with her (HINT!)... And know that making said conclusion is a common thing to do. But do not use her as a means of being right. Thanks.


Having a Starscream, Shockwave and Swindle under United does seem puzzling, for these reasons:

- The rest of the Combaticons are plain missing
- Optimus Prime and Jazz are properly listed under TG.
- After checking the ID numbers, they do not match the TG release order: Starscream is TG-09, Swindle is TG-06 (not even the first Combaticon in the list to boot) and Shockwave has yet to get one.

Color me crazy, but I suspect TakaraTomy is planning on restarting the United line again after EX is done, with repaints. They've used WfC molds as Cybertronian forms of G1 characters, and I have a feeling they're planning the same approach for Shockwave. Would be a first to use the same mold for two separate continuities, however I wouldn't rule it out. Remember, the games were never released in Japan.

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Doubt it. They haven't used a mold that old for United yet, as that was a 1996 Beast Wars mold redecoed for the 2003 Wal-Mart Dinobots release.


Yet you have given me so many reasons not to use that as a reliable fact. >:oP My point is that I hope they do not do it, as they reissued not only Cheetus and Dinobot in 2008, but also numerous Hasbro sets in a traditional manner they established in 1985. However, I am not going to rule them out on account that they are usable and may possibly be used as a "UNITED" (or something among those lines) version of Dinoforce.

And if they do... They better add Star Saber into the mix. :michaelbay:


TakaraTomy does have a penchant for using the molds Hasbro has designed on paper how they please. But even they have limits, I'm sure.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers United Hardhead and Reflector On the Way?

Postby Rated X » Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:09 am

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I would like to know if Takara Shockwave is the same product as Arms Micron Shockwave. I want the one with the more cartoon accurate G1 deco.

On Hardhead, I might just buy him and use a spare Warpath for an extra head to paint green so he can be Treds. That would look great with Bad Boy and Bugbite.

Reflector - would work, but pointless because the 3rd parties have already done the character in both G1 and neo versions. The mold really needs to be used for Soundwave instead.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers United Hardhead and Reflector On the Way?

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers United Hardhead and Reflector On the Way?

Postby Sodan-1 » Sat Nov 03, 2012 1:54 pm

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A green Warpath does not a Hardhead make, and already owning Perfect Effect's SFX I have no desire for a convenient Reflector remold.

Rated X wrote:Reflector - would work, but pointless because the 3rd parties have already done the character in both G1 and neo versions. The mold really needs to be used for Soundwave instead.

Agreed, but I can't see it happening as long as there's a WFC/FoC Soundwave doing the rounds. Apart from the FoC figures voyager size and minion launcher they're conceptually almost the same.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers United Hardhead and Reflector On the Way?

Postby Rated X » Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:06 pm

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Sodan-1 wrote:A green Warpath does not a Hardhead make, and already owning Perfect Effect's SFX I have no desire for a convenient Reflector remold.


Agreed. But a green Warpath would make a perfect Treds. And theres no shortage of extra Warpaths to get a head and paint it...
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