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on second thought, im cancelling my preorder, my Magnus is fine

Swindle01 wrote:nice blurred photos with the flash on .....

its not that hard to take a decent high quality picture - flash off - decent light source - macro on - steady focus on

from what i can see of these pics henkei magnus just looks terrible. He looks like some kinda KO the factory couldnt be arsed to finish adding the final paint applications to

The figure is just TOO white and looks unfinished. The classics version just looks miles better than the late henkei version. The white legs the completely white arms...it just looks unfinished. Only thing the henkei one has over the classics one is the blue face plate but again you can fix this yourself by getting the FP city commander stickers from reprolabels

the henkei 1 is way way to late and just doesnt look that good. I cant justify spending cash on this when theres far far superior 3rd party stuff coming out like the ko shadow scythe kit or the new insecticons etc

How about this for justification?

In the Dreamwave G1 continuity, Ultra Magnus shed his armor and looked like a G1 version of this figure. The second Masterpiece figure was a G1 version of this character. In the Binaltech/Alternity version of G1, he also shed his armor in order to use the Matrix of Leadership prior to defeating Unicron... And he also looked like the G1 version of this.

The Alternity version (sold at the Transformers China Carnival, and also by e-HOBBY) was this color scheme. As was the Revoltech variant of Convoy, which was based on the Dreamwave version, was this same color scheme. And all because... You guessed it... The robot that resides underneath the armor is that color scheme.

Here is an example on what I am talking about:


But yeah... If that is not convincing enough, consider the fact that this could result in the making of a new "City Commander" armor set for this figure. I know that there are others out there that are.

Blurrz wrote:blue jeans
white shirt
walked into the room
you know you make my eyes burn

Top tier. :brofist:

kuma its not really the same is it....
I mean in G1 the cab merged into ultra magnus. The cab was just a cab for vehicle mode. The toy was a copy of prime because it was probably easier to do it that way (because originally he was diaclone powered convoy remember) and the MP magnus we got was just a white prime because Takara couldnt be arsed to give us a proper magnus with the armour

I just dont see the point in this henkei release when they KNOW people would rather spend there money on something better such as Hercules or MT devastator or hegemon etc. If takara want my money when it comes to classics etc then there seriously gona need to step up instead of giving me a lame crappy repaint of a figure whos...what? 3+ somert years old now?

I mean jesus christ Hegemon blows the crap outa classics megatron, anyone else notice henkei megatrons price seriously drop since hegemon came out? if a 3rd party company thats smaller than hasbro or takara can do BETTER than hasbro or takara themselves then isnt that kinda saying something?

The thing is, thanks to the different transformation scheme, it is possible to paint the robot like Ultra Magnus' outer armor (only the top chest would have to remain white). Couple that with a new head and this would be a wonderful Ultra Mangnus figure that didn't need add ons.

Here's a beautiful custom someone did. I would import this figure in a minute.

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-ima ... ra+Magnus/

Swindle01 wrote:kuma its not really the same is it....
I mean in G1 the cab merged into ultra magnus. The cab was just a cab for vehicle mode. The toy was a copy of prime because it was probably easier to do it that way (because originally he was diaclone powered convoy remember) and the MP magnus we got was just a white prime because Takara couldnt be arsed to give us a proper magnus with the armour

I know. However, when it comes to Ultra Magnus' G1 history, it was very much rumored that he was also reformatted by Alpha Trion. So underneath his armor, he looks like Convoy/Optimus Prime. This was one part of Magnus and Convoy being "brothers."

As for the figures, he was done "sans armor" in 1985 and 1987. Plus, the 2004 Masterpiece was not "half-assed"... But rather a revelation that the designer was more or less inspired by the Dreamwave version of the character. But even then, they have recently announced that another MP version of Ultra Magnus will include his armor.

Swindle01 wrote:I just dont see the point in this henkei release when they KNOW people would rather spend there money on something better such as Hercules or MT devastator or hegemon etc. If takara want my money when it comes to classics etc then there seriously gona need to step up instead of giving me a lame crappy repaint of a figure whos...what? 3+ somert years old now?

You don't see it because you don't want it. You need to remember that your reasons to not get it do not reflect anything beyond that. However, this is an Asian market release. There is no real confirmation if it will be a Henkei! piece... Yet. And even if it is or isn't, it is primarily targeted at those who collect Ultra Magnus figures... As well as any others that want to buy it for their reasons.

Swindle01 wrote:I mean jesus christ Hegemon blows the crap outa classics megatron, anyone else notice henkei megatrons price seriously drop since hegemon came out? if a 3rd party company thats smaller than hasbro or takara can do BETTER than hasbro or takara themselves then isnt that kinda saying something?

Again... Your opinion. So lets use your view on this item with what you praised: "Why would somebody want to buy a third-party product when it contributes nothing to the Transformers fanbase? They are overpriced, and have no real value outside of what these companies are charging. I can buy numerous pieces that will have a higher demand and resale value, and I am also talking about reissues. So why buy third party when I can get the real deal for less?"

Point being is simple: People will buy it to add to their Ultra Magnus collection, to have a Ultra Magnus figure, modifications, in order to use third-party add-ons, to add to their Transformers collection, display pieces, and/or to have an affordable piece to play with.

Classics all the way

The Henkei version is a good alternative for those who where unable to get Classics.

RiddlerJ wrote:The thing is, thanks to the different transformation scheme, it is possible to paint the robot like Ultra Magnus' outer armor (only the top chest would have to remain white). Couple that with a new head and this would be a wonderful Ultra Mangnus figure that didn't need add ons.

Here's a beautiful custom someone did. I would import this figure in a minute.

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-ima ... ra+Magnus/

Dude! Love the mod!

Sentinel Maximus wrote:Classics all the way

The Henkei version is a good alternative for those who where unable to get Classics.

^ This. It adds to the many reasons to get this piece.

Meh to this thing. Decided to cancel my preorder and go for Throttlebot Rollbar instead.

Looks pretty dang nice... not $60+ nice or anything though. A pic or two inside the City Commander Armor would've been great though.