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Re: New game?? Time for a new BRAGGING THREAD!!!

Postby Naked Magnus » Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:13 am

Wow, I ignore the forum for a while and I miss out on all of this good and heated fun.

Burn wrote:i've always been of the personal belief (and I know AZ will probably disagree with me on this) that they allow a person to level up before they have a decent enough build.

Wow, maybe the only thing Burn and I have agreed on in public. :P NV suggested that he and I level up to 6 so that we can both gain more XP from each other. At the time, he relied heavily on dual tactics to get to L6, whereas I did not not need to as much. The result was I benefited far more than he did (IMO), at least initially. Now his stats have caught up a bit and he is holding his own at L6.

alldarker wrote:I have no idea how GS and RoS took the nr. 1 spot, but considering I got a iPhone in June of last year and I was able to climb from 35th position to the 4th position in just 6 months, I'm sure that a mobile internet device has something to do with their ranking. Good for them, and considering the results of the recent tournee, I know RoS is still playing WAY more missions than me.

Absolute Zero wrote:RoS has even said he plays near 24 hours a day with his iphone.


The iPhone is probably the best mobile web surfing device out there, but it is still a pain in the ass for playing HMW. http://www.seibertron.com is not optimized for mobile, and it still takes a while to render all of the images. I only use the iPhone to play about 10% of the time, as I sit in front of the computer most of the day. But those extra missions I am able to squeeze in on my phone make a big difference over time. I can squeeze in missions while I am at the gym, church, attending a technical presentation, or sometimes I can do it discretely under the table during meetings. GS told me he would sometimes use his girlfriend's phone to play, but the phone was not very good and it annoyed the heck out of her.

I have never bothered to calculate how much XP I am gaining on average per day. Probably should do that.
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Re: New game?? Time for a new BRAGGING THREAD!!!

Postby Nickolai » Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:23 am

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Re: New game?? Time for a new BRAGGING THREAD!!!

Postby Absolute Zero » Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:40 pm

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Burn wrote:
alldarker wrote:
Absolute Zero wrote:
Burn wrote:This is the HMW forums, everything sounds like porn.


Because it's on the internet, and the internet is for porn.

Finally, something I can agree on...

AZ disputes your agreement until you back it up with statistics. :wink:


Nah. Cause 69.8 of all statistics are made up. and again, 42.7% of all statistics are made up on the spot. So, statistically, if we add those, and then divide by zero...
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Re: New game?? Time for a new BRAGGING THREAD!!!

Postby Name_Violation » Fri Apr 30, 2010 2:55 pm

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i havent tracked xp in a while. for a minute i was trackin individual xp of my team. Hun-grr was makin 20k a day when he was level 5. idk, probably more now

HEY RoS, wanna make some 7's :P I could pull off 1, but it would be kinda weak. :-(
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Re: New game?? Time for a new BRAGGING THREAD!!!

Postby Absolute Zero » Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:31 pm

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Name_Violation wrote:i havent tracked xp in a while. for a minute i was trackin individual xp of my team. Hun-grr was makin 20k a day when he was level 5. idk, probably more now

HEY RoS, wanna make some 7's :P I could pull off 1, but it would be kinda weak. :-(


You could make one for me. :x
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Re: New game?? Time for a new BRAGGING THREAD!!!

Postby Burn » Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:52 pm

Absolute Zero wrote:
Name_Violation wrote:i havent tracked xp in a while. for a minute i was trackin individual xp of my team. Hun-grr was makin 20k a day when he was level 5. idk, probably more now

HEY RoS, wanna make some 7's :P I could pull off 1, but it would be kinda weak. :-(


You could make one for me. :x


Yeah good luck with that Hippy Care Bear, he gave his soul to RoS ages ago. :P
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Re: New game?? Time for a new BRAGGING THREAD!!!

Postby Naked Magnus » Fri Apr 30, 2010 4:13 pm

Awwwww... Mr. Burn. You will always be a Mr. sad grumpy face until you learn the importance of caring.

NV and I will give you the Care Bear Stare!

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Re: New game?? Time for a new BRAGGING THREAD!!!

Postby Name_Violation » Fri Apr 30, 2010 4:42 pm

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revengeofstarscream wrote:Awwwww... Mr. Burn. You will always be a Mr. sad grumpy face until you learn the importance of caring.

NV and I will give you the Care Bear Stare!

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Re: New game?? Time for a new BRAGGING THREAD!!!

Postby Name_Violation » Fri Apr 30, 2010 4:50 pm

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I'm actually debating if i wanna make more 6's or not. with out careful timing between me and RoS, i can end up losing xp by having nothin but empty high-end missions.

but I'll test the waters with a 7 in a bit. put it in a 1-11 mission with any luck.

If i generate enough xp, eventually the bots'll have more 5's, 6's and 7's :twisted:

now to get the cons to make more medics :P
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Re: New game?? Time for a new BRAGGING THREAD!!!

Postby Naked Magnus » Fri Apr 30, 2010 5:00 pm

Name_Violation wrote:I'm actually debating if i wanna make more 6's or not. with out careful timing between me and RoS, i can end up losing xp by having nothin but empty high-end missions.

but I'll test the waters with a 7 in a bit. put it in a 1-11 mission with any luck.

If i generate enough xp, eventually the bots'll have more 5's, 6's and 7's :twisted:

now to get the cons to make more medics :P

We should probably take this discussion to PM, but I am not yet convinced that moving to L7 now is a good idea for the reasons Burn and I mentioned previously. I typically sit on ideas like this for a little while before taking action.

Thinking about it...
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Re: New game?? Time for a new BRAGGING THREAD!!!

Postby Name_Violation » Fri Apr 30, 2010 5:33 pm

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revengeofstarscream wrote:
Name_Violation wrote:I'm actually debating if i wanna make more 6's or not. with out careful timing between me and RoS, i can end up losing xp by having nothin but empty high-end missions.

but I'll test the waters with a 7 in a bit. put it in a 1-11 mission with any luck.

If i generate enough xp, eventually the bots'll have more 5's, 6's and 7's :twisted:

now to get the cons to make more medics :P

We should probably take this discussion to PM, but I am not yet convinced that moving to L7 now is a good idea for the reasons Burn and I mentioned previously. I typically sit on ideas like this for a little while before taking action.

Thinking about it...

my top 2 are due for a reset anyway, so i was just gonna screw around with excess points in int and stuff.

but i have been toying with a 7.5 mil level 7 build for hun-grr...
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Re: New game?? Time for a new BRAGGING THREAD!!!

Postby Absolute Zero » Fri Apr 30, 2010 5:56 pm

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The problem with the top guy saying that "I'll have a weaker bot if I level up" is that, personally, I often wonder "Weaker compared to who?" There's not a whole lot of people all that close to him, and there's no one above him to beat this 'weaker bot.' I mean, you're 4 million over the next highest opponent, who is NV and is thinking of making a level 7. You're still going to be stronger than anyone remotely close to you.

Now, don't get me wrong. Level running isn't for everyone, and probably shouldn't be done for people who are just now going from 0 to one or 1 to 2, or even 2 to 3. In those cases, where there is a large part of the game above you, you're basically gonna get stomped bad. However, when you're at the top of the game, and there's no one above you, who are you afraid is going to be stronger than you? If you still have millions more XP to dump into upgrades, unless you're horrible at configuring your guys (which obviously you're not RoS), you're still going to be able to crush your opposition.

I just don't understand why people on top keep saying "I'm afraid to level up and be weaker" when there's no one to be weaker then. And this isn't a knock on RoS. He's certainly not the first to do it.
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Re: New game?? Time for a new BRAGGING THREAD!!!

Postby Name_Violation » Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:05 pm

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Absolute Zero wrote:The problem with the top guy saying that "I'll have a weaker bot if I level up" is that, personally, I often wonder "Weaker compared to who?" There's not a whole lot of people all that close to him, and there's no one above him to beat this 'weaker bot.' I mean, you're 4 million over the next highest opponent, who is NV and is thinking of making a level 7. You're still going to be stronger than anyone remotely close to you.

Now, don't get me wrong. Level running isn't for everyone, and probably shouldn't be done for people who are just now going from 0 to one or 1 to 2, or even 2 to 3. In those cases, where there is a large part of the game above you, you're basically gonna get stomped bad. However, when you're at the top of the game, and there's no one above you, who are you afraid is going to be stronger than you? If you still have millions more XP to dump into upgrades, unless you're horrible at configuring your guys (which obviously you're not RoS), you're still going to be able to crush your opposition.

I just don't understand why people on top keep saying "I'm afraid to level up and be weaker" when there's no one to be weaker then. And this isn't a knock on RoS. He's certainly not the first to do it.

http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... _id=235308

i made hun-grr a 7 and i'll do the same with swindle in like 10k xp.

this is just screwin around tho.

but i'm thinkin of playin with builds for a minute
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Re: New game?? Time for a new BRAGGING THREAD!!!

Postby Absolute Zero » Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:11 pm

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I have a pretty good chance of making some XP there. If I can hit you and repair RoS, I should do real well. Congrats on being the first level 7.
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Re: New game?? Time for a new BRAGGING THREAD!!!

Postby Naked Magnus » Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:14 pm

Absolute Zero wrote:when you're at the top of the game, and there's no one above you, who are you afraid is going to be stronger than you?

The boogyman. That is who I am afraid of. He is going to get me if I level up too fast.
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Re: New game?? Time for a new BRAGGING THREAD!!!

Postby Name_Violation » Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:21 pm

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revengeofstarscream wrote:
Absolute Zero wrote:when you're at the top of the game, and there's no one above you, who are you afraid is going to be stronger than you?

The boogyman. That is who I am afraid of. He is going to get me if I level up too fast.

I read that while eating. I choked on my toast. RoS is trying to kill me :P

And actually i may make swindle a lvl 7 tank. that could work... :twisted:
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Re: New game?? Time for a new BRAGGING THREAD!!!

Postby Absolute Zero » Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:22 pm

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revengeofstarscream wrote:
Absolute Zero wrote:when you're at the top of the game, and there's no one above you, who are you afraid is going to be stronger than you?

The boogyman. That is who I am afraid of. He is going to get me if I level up too fast.


Don't worry. I'll protect you. ^_^ It's what heroes do.
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Re: New game?? Time for a new BRAGGING THREAD!!!

Postby Name_Violation » Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:34 pm

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Absolute Zero wrote:I have a pretty good chance of making some XP there. If I can hit you and repair RoS, I should do real well. Congrats on being the first level 7.

http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... r_id=83384

make that first 2 level 7's (not counting SPL)

and you didn't fair so well in that mission :P
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Re: New game?? Time for a new BRAGGING THREAD!!!

Postby Absolute Zero » Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:36 pm

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I know! You dodged me and killed me! Jerk! ;_;
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Re: New game?? Time for a new BRAGGING THREAD!!!

Postby Naked Magnus » Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:14 pm

See AZ, this is what I am talking about. Hun-Grrr made it to L7 by investing in upgrades that do not give him any benefit. His skill and firepower stats do not help him at all in his current config. However, his opponent (e.g. Street Punk) only has upgrades that are useful. Hun-Grrr's higher level did not give him an advantage in this fight. Rather, the higher level gave his opponent a much greater reward.

New Game High Score: 15,164 xp


NV, I am not slighting you here. I realize you are just experimenting.

AZ, I do not see the benefit of rushing to a higher level by investing in stats that are not useful. What is the rush to level up? Sure, you produce more XP for your opponents. They, in turn, produce more XP for you. Everyone levels up faster. My response is: so what? Was SPL2 at L7 really any more exciting than SPL1 at L6? I would argue it was less so.

AZ, It would probably be best if you and I simply agree to disagree on this point.

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Re: New game?? Time for a new BRAGGING THREAD!!!

Postby Absolute Zero » Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:33 pm

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Ah, but you're missing the real point RoS. You just got a game high score, because he leveled up. He's experiementing, and his leveling up is benefiting you, and any autobot that manages to hit him. In the short term? Yeah, he's not going to be the top scorer in missions. In the long run? He has a head start on upgrades he's going to need anyway if he ever wants to go past level 6 or 7, and he's generating XP for us to level up, and gain XP faster.

Now, I know this is a foreign concept to you, but being selfless, and actually helping your opponent, not only helps the game, but helps you in the long run. N_V going to level 7 to generate XP for the bots, means stronger opponents for him. Our becoming stronger, means more of a challenge for the Cons in general, and means better back up for you. Now, as we level up, based on the XP we gain from hitting people, and those random big gains we make off him, speed up our leveling. As we go up, it gives more XP to the cons for hitting us. They become stronger, and better able to back up N_V. As they get stronger, we get more XP. In the end, it's better for the community.

However, as for your specific argument, in that you outscored him... well, that's to be expected, when you have 3 million more XP than him, and are a lower level. That's kinda like saying "I'm surprised the sun rose! It's only done it every day for the entirety of my life." It does not, however, say a whole lot for you, when someone with 3 million XP than your guy is willing to level up to 7, while you're all "People will be able to beat me. Boo hoo." I can promise you, you'll still be the top guy in the game, and you'll still be able to beat everyone else. *nod*

In the end, I can't force you to level up, any more than I can force you to stop coming across as a self centered person, or you can stop me from coming across as an over opinionated arsewipe. We are what we are. You made up you mind long ago that you simply couldn't level up. Hell, you complained about Ultra Magnus being forced to level up because he was over the level cap following the second round of the SPL. I made up my mind that there's no reason to not level up if you're the king. And you are the king of HMW right now, RoS. Undisputed heavy weight champion.
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Re: New game?? Time for a new BRAGGING THREAD!!!

Postby Name_Violation » Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:44 pm

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Hun-Grr is gonn end up gettin deleveled, but I kinda like Swindles build. Granted the 1 point of int is useless, but its not expensive enough to really matter. with the 2-6k xp average i make per mission, i can afford to splurge on stupid investments. its not a lot, and it wouldn't be doin anything else.

i wanna see high levels as soon as possible, so if i have to give away xp to let others level, then i will.

my concern comes down to the fact i'm losing access to the level 4-6 missions, so I wont have multiple opponents with my 7's. but so far (only a few missions) I havent seen any higher level missions generated. meaning theres the 5-7's, 6-9's, and the 1-11's available.
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Re: New game?? Time for a new BRAGGING THREAD!!!

Postby Absolute Zero » Sat May 01, 2010 12:20 am

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Name_Violation wrote:Hun-Grr is gonn end up gettin deleveled, but I kinda like Swindles build. Granted the 1 point of int is useless, but its not expensive enough to really matter. with the 2-6k xp average i make per mission, i can afford to splurge on stupid investments. its not a lot, and it wouldn't be doin anything else.

i wanna see high levels as soon as possible, so if i have to give away xp to let others level, then i will.

my concern comes down to the fact i'm losing access to the level 4-6 missions, so I wont have multiple opponents with my 7's. but so far (only a few missions) I havent seen any higher level missions generated. meaning theres the 5-7's, 6-9's, and the 1-11's available.


There's 6-9s? It does suck that the 7s don't get access to many cross missions with the rest of us, but it's nice to know that we have a big target for the 1-11 missions. I'll have to join those more often now though, instead of just relying on the 4-5 and 4-6 missions to provide the bulk of my XP.

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Re: New game?? Time for a new BRAGGING THREAD!!!

Postby Name_Violation » Sat May 01, 2010 1:03 am

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there ARE 7-10 :(

i kinda wish the 6-9 and 7-10 missions would go away. have 4-6, and 1-10. it may be a little unbalanced at first, but it'd level out

but unfortunately this thread has derailed harder than (culturally relevant train accident), and short of mod splitting this into an actual discussion we should probabbly go back to being boastful braggards :P
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Re: New game?? Time for a new BRAGGING THREAD!!!

Postby Absolute Zero » Sat May 01, 2010 1:22 am

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Name_Violation wrote:there ARE 7-10 :(

i kinda wish the 6-9 and 7-10 missions would go away. have 4-6, and 1-10. it may be a little unbalanced at first, but it'd level out

but unfortunately this thread has derailed harder than (culturally relevant train accident), and short of mod splitting this into an actual discussion we should probabbly go back to being boastful braggards :P


I was bragging, cause I outscored you. :P Just because you won, and you outleveled me, doesn't make it less brag worthy... right? A mod'll pop up eventually that can split it.

As others level up, those 6-9s and 7-10s will be better pay out missions than the 1-11s are, just gotta be patient. I'll be there asap.
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