MINDVVIPE wrote:Thrust is pretty much a voyager by today's standards, so its fair its about 25-30 dollars.
If you put a Classics seeker next to a 1984 seeker, they're almost the same size.
MINDVVIPE wrote:Thrust is pretty much a voyager by today's standards, so its fair its about 25-30 dollars.
GuyIncognito wrote:MINDVVIPE wrote:Thrust is pretty much a voyager by today's standards, so its fair its about 25-30 dollars.
If you put a Classics seeker next to a 1984 seeker, they're almost the same size.
MINDVVIPE wrote:It all rounds out to about the same, exchanging things like die cast for better engineering... no?
MINDVVIPE wrote:Oh, and smokescreen is much smaller too, haha. My mistake.
GuyIncognito wrote:MINDVVIPE wrote:It all rounds out to about the same, exchanging things like die cast for better engineering... no?
That's my point! They've kept the prices the same (or lower) by using cheaper materials (plastic instead of die-cast), but also added better engineering.
The point I'm trying to make is that it's ridiculous for anyone to complain that "Hasbro is jacking up the prices."
STINGRAY749 wrote:Also that "Predacons Rising" subtitle has me hoping that a deluxe jet vehicon will be coming.
Va'al wrote:I keep track of everyone. Backwards.
There are atandarfs to maintain.
LOST Cybertronian wrote:Hey, If Mindmaster survived then you should do just fine.
Mindmaster wrote:STINGRAY749 wrote:Also that "Predacons Rising" subtitle has me hoping that a deluxe jet vehicon will be coming.
How? It's just a DVD.
How do we know it's not just the name of this set? "Beast Hunters" is already the subtitle of the "Transformers: Prime" label, so that would make "Predacons Rising" be a subtitle of a subtitle. "Yo dawg" Subtitleception, in a sense.RAcast wrote:Mindmaster wrote:STINGRAY749 wrote:Also that "Predacons Rising" subtitle has me hoping that a deluxe jet vehicon will be coming.
How? It's just a DVD.
Because it's not just a DVD. It's a rebranding. If it were "just a DVD," they wouldn't have bothered to rebrand it with the Predacons Rising sub-line and make an entirely new box design.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:How do we know it's not just the name of this set? "Beast Hunters" is already the subtitle of the "Transformers: Prime" label, so that would make "Predacons Rising" be a subtitle of a subtitle. "Yo dawg" Subtitleception, in a sense.RAcast wrote:Mindmaster wrote:STINGRAY749 wrote:Also that "Predacons Rising" subtitle has me hoping that a deluxe jet vehicon will be coming.
How? It's just a DVD.
Because it's not just a DVD. It's a rebranding. If it were "just a DVD," they wouldn't have bothered to rebrand it with the Predacons Rising sub-line and make an entirely new box design.
No no no no no. That is a completely different scenario to this.RAcast wrote:Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen became Hunt for the Decpeticons and Reveal the Shield lines. They were sublines of Rotf after the Rotf line ended and there was space to fill before the next big thing.
^ There's precedent for "subtitleception," as you call it.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Thus, there's gotta be something more to this "Predacons Rising" name than just a sub-subtitle, unless Hasbro really does want to get ridiculous with their toyline names.
That's what I proposed from the get go.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Thus, there's gotta be something more to this "Predacons Rising" name than just a sub-subtitle, unless Hasbro really does want to get ridiculous with their toyline names.
What if it's just the name of the gift set?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:That's what I proposed from the get go.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Thus, there's gotta be something more to this "Predacons Rising" name than just a sub-subtitle, unless Hasbro really does want to get ridiculous with their toyline names.
What if it's just the name of the gift set?
Not "Unleashed" (how does that keep getting around?).JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sabrblade wrote:That's what I proposed from the get go.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Thus, there's gotta be something more to this "Predacons Rising" name than just a sub-subtitle, unless Hasbro really does want to get ridiculous with their toyline names.
What if it's just the name of the gift set?
Looking back, I don't see the "Prime" title anywhere on the packaging, the line proper seems to be just "Transformers". Isn't there anything coming with the title "Beast Hunters: Predacons Unleashed"?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Not "Unleashed" (how does that keep getting around?).JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sabrblade wrote:That's what I proposed from the get go.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Thus, there's gotta be something more to this "Predacons Rising" name than just a sub-subtitle, unless Hasbro really does want to get ridiculous with their toyline names.
What if it's just the name of the gift set?
Looking back, I don't see the "Prime" title anywhere on the packaging, the line proper seems to be just "Transformers". Isn't there anything coming with the title "Beast Hunters: Predacons Unleashed"?
There's a TV movie coming with that name as the story title, like how any episode has its own name.
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Not "Unleashed" (how does that keep getting around?).JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sabrblade wrote:That's what I proposed from the get go.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Thus, there's gotta be something more to this "Predacons Rising" name than just a sub-subtitle, unless Hasbro really does want to get ridiculous with their toyline names.
What if it's just the name of the gift set?
Looking back, I don't see the "Prime" title anywhere on the packaging, the line proper seems to be just "Transformers". Isn't there anything coming with the title "Beast Hunters: Predacons Unleashed"?
There's a TV movie coming with that name as the story title, like how any episode has its own name.
Predacons Unleashed Rising, sorry
You think the gift set refers to that TV Movie? Since it seems the next line will simply be "Transformers" (yet again...) that seems possible.
Va'al wrote:I keep track of everyone. Backwards.
There are atandarfs to maintain.
LOST Cybertronian wrote:Hey, If Mindmaster survived then you should do just fine.
But "Predacons Rising" was revealed to be a TV movie serving as the series finale for the show, finishing it off for good after episode 65 (the 13th episode of season 3).Mindmaster wrote:They might do what 343 Industries did with the short series "Halo: Forward Unto Dawn": have a full, approximately 90 minute movie, then chop it up into several episodes. But in this case, it's combining two or three episodes into a movie, most likely either the first few of Beast Hunters or later episodes where other Predacons join the ranks.
Just my two cents.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:But "Predacons Rising" was revealed to be a TV movie serving as the series finale for the show, finishing it off for good after episode 65 (the 13th episode of season 3).Mindmaster wrote:They might do what 343 Industries did with the short series "Halo: Forward Unto Dawn": have a full, approximately 90 minute movie, then chop it up into several episodes. But in this case, it's combining two or three episodes into a movie, most likely either the first few of Beast Hunters or later episodes where other Predacons join the ranks.
Just my two cents.
Va'al wrote:I keep track of everyone. Backwards.
There are atandarfs to maintain.
LOST Cybertronian wrote:Hey, If Mindmaster survived then you should do just fine.
GuyIncognito wrote:So you DON'T understand inflation. How much was a Deluxe in 1984? About $10? $10 in 1984 dollars is equivalent to $22 today.
Even if you pay the highest price for a Deluxe today - $16.99 at TRU - that's equivalent to $7.50 in 1984 dollars.
Transformers today are smaller, more complex with more engineering and more moving parts, AND THEY COST LESS.
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:And I see we've been using an incorrect but related Economic term: devaluation of money. The point still stands however.
GuyIncognito wrote:According to http://pleasesavemerobots.blogspot.com/ ... pse.html...
in 1985 Optimus Prime retailed for $19.88: $43.35 in 2013 dollars,
Thrust retailed for $12.88, $28.08 in today's dollars,
Smokescreen was $9.88, which is $21.54 in 2013 dollars.
Conclusion: after adjusting for inflaction (because you ABSOLUTELY MUST adjust for inflation when comparing prices from different time periods), you can see that Transformers are SIGNIFICANTLY CHEAPER now than they were in 1984-85.
The absolute cost in dollars may have gone up, but our income levels have gone up EVEN MORE, so the real cost is down. In 1984, the median household income in the U.S. was about $20,000 and today it's about $50,000.
Another way to think about it: in 1984, someone making the median income could buy 2000 Smokescreens with what they make in a year. In 2013, someone making the median income could buy 3,333 Smokescreens (at $15 each). TF cost has increased, but income has increased even more, making the real cost lower.
Va'al wrote:I keep track of everyone. Backwards.
There are atandarfs to maintain.
LOST Cybertronian wrote:Hey, If Mindmaster survived then you should do just fine.
Sabrblade wrote:But "Predacons Rising" was revealed to be a TV movie serving as the series finale for the show, finishing it off for good after episode 65 (the 13th episode of season 3).Mindmaster wrote:They might do what 343 Industries did with the short series "Halo: Forward Unto Dawn": have a full, approximately 90 minute movie, then chop it up into several episodes. But in this case, it's combining two or three episodes into a movie, most likely either the first few of Beast Hunters or later episodes where other Predacons join the ranks.
Just my two cents.
Well, the press release for the movie called it an "epilogue", so take that what you will.Metrosuplex wrote:Sabrblade wrote:But "Predacons Rising" was revealed to be a TV movie serving as the series finale for the show, finishing it off for good after episode 65 (the 13th episode of season 3).Mindmaster wrote:They might do what 343 Industries did with the short series "Halo: Forward Unto Dawn": have a full, approximately 90 minute movie, then chop it up into several episodes. But in this case, it's combining two or three episodes into a movie, most likely either the first few of Beast Hunters or later episodes where other Predacons join the ranks.
Just my two cents.
So there's a movie planned at the series conclusion? For some reason, I thought Predacons Rising was supposed to be the movie that transitioned us into the Beast Hunters series... Adding movies to end TV series... is that a normal thing? I wonder if they'll market it as a movie and show it in full, or just split it apart and call it a mini-series conclusion...
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:As for an example of a movie finishing off a series, "Firefly" did that with its "Serenity" film.
Mindmaster wrote:Thirteen dollars for a Deluxe? What Wal*Mart have you been shipping at? My local centers want about sixteen a pop.
Sabrblade wrote:Well, the press release for the movie called it an "epilogue", so take that what you will.
As for an example of a movie finishing off a series, "Firefly" did that with its "Serenity" film.
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