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viruscarnage wrote:

william-james88 wrote: And I will GLADLY eat my hat now that we have proof the dinobots transform

Pics or it didn't happen.

I think this is WJ88? I mean, I could be wrong...



Also, fixed the quote mixup.

Mindmaster wrote:

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:I prefer Lance Henriksen, thank you very much.

*rolls eyes*


At least Mark Ryan is a good Lockdown.

I'm being flippant

So?

flippant (adjective) - not showing a serious or respectful attitude.

In other words, he's messing around.

Oh OK thank you i did not understand what it meant in the mean time i will be looking for more spots

Mindmaster wrote:

viruscarnage wrote:

william-james88 wrote: And I will GLADLY eat my hat now that we have proof the dinobots transform

Pics or it didn't happen.

I think this is WJ88? I mean, I could be wrong...



Also, fixed the quote mixup.

Ah thanks for the fix, I didn't even realize I screwed up haha.

Janus Prime wrote:Who are those guys behind Lockdown? they look robotic but have no kibble, maybe it´s a new alien race. They look too smoth to be the robot modes for the wolfs.

They look like... more of Lockdown. Like, more of his kind. Mayber other bounty hunters, as though Lockdown were part of a group of them who all look similar.

I hope those aren't the quintessans behind Lockdown. But that TV spot was badass. I can't wait for this movie even more. And it looks like it finally got a rating.

SlyTF1 wrote:I hope those aren't the quintessans behind Lockdown.

Oh no... now that you mention it, Lockdown's ocular helmet does look like that of a scuba diving helmet. And we see him coming out of the water in that one shot. And Quintessa is known for its aquatic inhabitants, so maybe, just maybe, Lockdown and his ilk just might be of or pertaining to Quintessa.

I hope not too, though.

Sabrblade wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:I hope those aren't the quintessans behind Lockdown.

Oh no... now that you mention it, Lockdown's ocular helmet does look like that of a scuba diving helmet. and we seem him coming out of the water in that one shot. And Quintessa is known for its aquatic inhabitants, so maybe, just maybe, Lockdown and his ilk just might be of or pertaining to Quintessa.

I hope not too, though.

Could be a diffrent group of non cybertronian Transformers


as in transformers not from Cybertron bu another planet that could be why Lockdown has green eyes

speaking of Green eyes i believe that Devastator was created by Lockdown and supplied to the cons probably not but i head canon that.

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Could be a diffrent group of non cybertronian Transformers


as in transformers not from Cybertron bu another planet

As it turns out, it just so happens that the Transformers: Retribution novel that came out back in January had the Quintessons and their ilk as being exactly that, creations of the Original Thirteen member Quintus Prime birthed on the Planet Quintessa.

Separate continuity, yeah, but the movies have borrowed ideas from other TF works before.

So, who knows, at this point.

I'd much rather have Quintessons over Unicron, anyday.

Autobot032 wrote:I'd much rather have Quintessons over Unicron, anyday.

There's still a possibility we might get both, since the Quints were originally conceived for the 1986 movie as servants of Unicron who did away with any survivors of planets Unicron ate (before they were changed into being their own unique faction in the final cut of the 1986 movie). It's possible any Quints we might get in this movie might serve him here as well.

And, once more, I hope not.

Soooooo??? Who's in those ships, is it an army seen in a flashback or an army aiding Lockdown/con army??? This has gotten more and more interesting w each new footage we see

Autobot032 wrote:I'd much rather have Quintessons over Unicron, anyday.

I couldn't disagree more. I personally don't like the characters of Quintessons, thankfully they were mainly in the cartoon. I would much rather have Unicron (though not without proper build-up and back story) than Quintessons.

I am pleasantly impressed. A Yorkshireman who's beeped and blooped in one (Bumblebee - yes, I know that's not what he did, allow me the licence), farted and slobbered in another (Jetfire) - now shows us this. Very very nice.

Lockdown seems to be trying to be Bane!

Oh no Optimus your punishment must be more severe!

OmegaPrime273 wrote:Soooooo??? Who's in those ships, is it an army seen in a flashback or an army aiding Lockdown/con army??? This has gotten more and more interesting w each new footage we see

I don't really know, but I'm making a strong guess that the ships could be some space explorers from Cybertron on prehistoric Earth (hint, Dinobots).

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:

OmegaPrime273 wrote:Soooooo??? Who's in those ships, is it an army seen in a flashback or an army aiding Lockdown/con army??? This has gotten more and more interesting w each new footage we see

I don't really know, but I'm making a strong guess that the ships could be some space explorers from Cybertron on prehistoric Earth (hint, Dinobots).

interesting theory that seems like a potential leadup

Sabrblade wrote:They look like... more of Lockdown. Like, more of his kind. Mayber other bounty hunters, as though Lockdown were part of a group of them who all look similar.

Yeah, they definitely look like Lockdown´s own team. Sinse Lockdown can shift his face, maybe they´re all Quitessons.

The ships might be the ones used by the Dinobots to travel to Earth, but that thing on top of them looks like a snail´s shell, it reminds me of the Quints.

If the Quints have to be in Bayverse, I hope they do them justice and not make them a cliche. (You know, run of the mill alien race looking to 'colonize' Earth for minerals and stuff) I want them to be here specifically because of the Transformers. Maybe they could be The Fallen's minions or something? Whatever, as long as it's not the same old same old. I don't like the Quintessons, but I gotta admit they (or at least the concept of them) is at least somewhat unique, and could be characterized well.

my moneys still on em being second generation cybertronians lads.

a cybertronian civilisation thats got its act together that goes about cybeforming worlds seems a decent enough threat to me.

Rodimus Prime wrote:If the Quints have to be in Bayverse, I hope they do them justice and not make them a cliche. (You know, run of the mill alien race looking to 'colonize' Earth for minerals and stuff) I want them to be here specifically because of the Transformers. Maybe they could be The Fallen's minions or something? Whatever, as long as it's not the same old same old. I don't like the Quintessons, but I gotta admit they (or at least the concept of them) is at least somewhat unique, and could be characterized well.

I am pretty sure they wont be included. The script writers have never dived too deeply into that part of the franchise and they usually settle for a more grounded approach. Introducing the dinobots is already a big step for Bay and his theme since Bay himself thought it was always too much to have robot dinosaurs. So I think it wont go more far fetched than the Dinobots in this film.

And as a side note, I am warming up more and more to this film. I was rewatching the others and I realized that there wasnt as much transformer action in the others as I thought. Optimus' fights are usually very short, with the longest one being in the forest in Revenge of the Fallen before he dies A lot of the other action segments usually dealt with the humans.

If you fill in the gaps in these trailers, we can already see that this film will have much more actual Transformer action and I am so pumped for this. Already got my Imax tickets!

Rodimus Prime wrote:If the Quints have to be in Bayverse, I hope they do them justice and not make them a cliche. (You know, run of the mill alien race looking to 'colonize' Earth for minerals and stuff) I want them to be here specifically because of the Transformers. Maybe they could be The Fallen's minions or something? Whatever, as long as it's not the same old same old. I don't like the Quintessons, but I gotta admit they (or at least the concept of them) is at least somewhat unique, and could be characterized well.

Whoever these dudes are, it was stated at CinemaCon that Lockdown is working for some authority who sends him to Earth specifically because of the Transformers' activities on Earth in the previous three films. Whoever Lockdown serves is not pleased with the Transformers having come in contact/interacted with humanity. So if these are a new take Quints, it's probably safe to assume that they are at least here specifically because of the TFs having been on Earth.

What if the guys behind Lockdown are Sweeps? Wasn't Cyclonus rumored to be in the movie?

SlyTF1 wrote:What if the guys behind Lockdown are Sweeps? Wasn't Cyclonus rumored to be in the movie?

The Sweeps were Scourge's minions, not Cyclonus's.

As for Cyclonus, common belief is that that was a preliminary/misunderstood name for Galvatron.

Sabrblade wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:What if the guys behind Lockdown are Sweeps? Wasn't Cyclonus rumored to be in the movie?

The Sweeps were Scourge's minions, not Cyclonus's.

As for Cyclonus, common belief is that that was a preliminary/misunderstood name for Galvatron.

Yeah, but since they're bringing Galvatron into the movie, and if Cyclonus is, in fact, in the movie, it would make sense to have Scourge and the Sweeps, too. IF they wanted to portray this whole Unicron thing as it was in G1.

SlyTF1 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:What if the guys behind Lockdown are Sweeps? Wasn't Cyclonus rumored to be in the movie?

The Sweeps were Scourge's minions, not Cyclonus's.

As for Cyclonus, common belief is that that was a preliminary/misunderstood name for Galvatron.

Yeah, but since they're bringing Galvatron into the movie, and if Cyclonus is, in fact, in the movie, it would make sense to have Scourge and the Sweeps, too. IF they wanted to portray this whole Unicron thing as it was in G1.

But Galvatron and Lockdown have no affiliation to each other. Your argument is dependent on Lockdown and Galvatron being of the same ilk since the guys your pegging for the Sweeps are more likely part of Lockdown's space gang, while Galvatron is a human-built mech from Earth.

And there was no "Cyclonus" for AOE listed in the giant list from Hasbro's customer service system, which thus far has accurately predicted every toy and character to come out of AOE.