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Re: TF Community Warning: Check your Credit and Debit Card accounts for recent fraudulent activity

Postby Banjo-Tron » Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:47 am

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bvzxa wrote:he couldn't tell me the entire address but the thieves were trying to purchase an iPod Touch and trying to send it to California.


See, this is what gets my goat the most. I have had 3 separate cases of fraud on my bank over the last few years. On each occasion it has caused me lots of stress, and in one case a stiff rebuke and cancellation of my account by PayPal (for some completely ludicrous reason)

I have asked my bank to chase it up and the merchant has supplied me with a printout of the transaction, but with the name and address of the criminal blacked out. Why the hell do criminals get the right to anonmyity? I just don't get it. :-x
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Re: TF Community Warning: Check your Credit and Debit Card accounts for recent fraudulent activity

Postby Burn » Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:35 am

Because as far as the merchant is concerned, they're customers not criminals, giving out data like that will be a breach of their privacy.
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Re: TF Community Warning: Check your Credit and Debit Card accounts for recent fraudulent activity

Postby Banjo-Tron » Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:52 am

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Burn wrote:Because as far as the merchant is concerned, they're customers not criminals, giving out data like that will be a breach of their privacy.

Oh OK. I assumed that the bank was the one that obscured their details, not the merchant. Does that mean that their identities are protected if, say, the police wanted to see 'em?
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Re: TF Community Warning: Check your Credit and Debit Card accounts for recent fraudulent activity

Postby Autobot032 » Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:30 am

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Banjo-Tron wrote:
Burn wrote:Because as far as the merchant is concerned, they're customers not criminals, giving out data like that will be a breach of their privacy.

Oh OK. I assumed that the bank was the one that obscured their details, not the merchant. Does that mean that their identities are protected if, say, the police wanted to see 'em?


No. With a warrant or a subpoena, PayPal has to release that information so an arrest may be made.
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Re: TF Community Warning: Check your Credit and Debit Card accounts for recent fraudulent activity

Postby Sid Burn » Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:44 pm

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just a heads up to anyone interested.

TFCC is giving out refunds on their memberships based on the remaining time on your membership.

so if anyone wants to take action against this loss of personal data, please email TFCC and get your money back, they will also wipe all your data once you cancel your membership.

Damaging Brian Savage's bottom line is the only thing the TFCC will really feel, Botcon and the TFCC have made him a rich man, and there is no excuse for the broken, outdated site he was running when you are intaking the kind of money he does from the TF collector's community.

He had a responsibility and ignored it, I urge you all to pull your memberships.
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Re: TF Community Warning: Check your Credit and Debit Card accounts for recent fraudulent activity

Postby Burn » Fri Mar 02, 2012 4:26 pm

Autobot032 wrote:
Banjo-Tron wrote:
Burn wrote:Because as far as the merchant is concerned, they're customers not criminals, giving out data like that will be a breach of their privacy.

Oh OK. I assumed that the bank was the one that obscured their details, not the merchant. Does that mean that their identities are protected if, say, the police wanted to see 'em?


No. With a warrant or a subpoena, PayPal has to release that information so an arrest may be made.


Which then brings back the issue of who gets the police involved?

In this particular instance I think the police could easily get involved, there are a number of people affected, they have a source of where the information was gathered from, an investigation could and should be launched.

Perhaps some of you affected members could approach your local police and explain the situation to them? They may be able to point you in a direction where a number of you can give the necessary info to help get things rolling.
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Re: TF Community Warning: Check your Credit and Debit Card accounts for recent fraudulent activity

Postby Stormrider » Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:48 pm

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Burn wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:
Banjo-Tron wrote:
Burn wrote:Because as far as the merchant is concerned, they're customers not criminals, giving out data like that will be a breach of their privacy.

Oh OK. I assumed that the bank was the one that obscured their details, not the merchant. Does that mean that their identities are protected if, say, the police wanted to see 'em?


No. With a warrant or a subpoena, PayPal has to release that information so an arrest may be made.


Which then brings back the issue of who gets the police involved?

In this particular instance I think the police could easily get involved, there are a number of people affected, they have a source of where the information was gathered from, an investigation could and should be launched.

Perhaps some of you affected members could approach your local police and explain the situation to them? They may be able to point you in a direction where a number of you can give the necessary info to help get things rolling.



It is definitely a good idea, but probably won't warrant any attention from the police unless TFCC gets the police involved. Having gone through identity theft I can tell you first hand that the police don't consider fraudulent charges a serious crime unless you actually lose money.

Probably the best people to get involved in this is your State Attorney General and/or FBI. Most major cities have an FBI branch you can call and the State Attorney General you can reach via websites. They have the power to investigate especially where it affected a large number of people.

Does anyone else think it's more than a coincidence that these fraudulent charges went rampant at the time of the Runamuck/Runabout went on sale? Of all the places to hit on the internet - why a Transformers fan club and why at this particular period? I think the thieves are TF fans or have inside knowledge about TFCC.
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Re: TF Community Warning: Check your Credit and Debit Card accounts for recent fraudulent activity

Postby Banjo-Tron » Sat Mar 03, 2012 3:48 am

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Sid Burn wrote:TFCC is giving out refunds on their memberships based on the remaining time on your membership

If we did this, would it forefeit our right to receive Runamuck? I suppose we could do it just after Runabout is shipped. I guess that would hurt FunPub some. I'm still surprised that Hasbro hasn't waded in on this debacle.
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Re: TF Community Warning: Check your Credit and Debit Card accounts for recent fraudulent activity

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Sat Mar 03, 2012 4:01 am

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Banjo-Tron wrote:
Sid Burn wrote:TFCC is giving out refunds on their memberships based on the remaining time on your membership

If we did this, would it forefeit our right to receive Runamuck? I suppose we could do it just after Runabout is shipped. I guess that would hurt FunPub some. I'm still surprised that Hasbro hasn't waded in on this debacle.


I'm sticking with the club for the time being; I want Runamuck and hope to get Runabout at some point. (I really wanted Drift at first but only if he comes with the right guns)
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Re: TF Community Warning: Check your Credit and Debit Card accounts for recent fraudulent activity

Postby Burn » Sat Mar 03, 2012 4:55 am

Banjo-Tron wrote:
Sid Burn wrote:TFCC is giving out refunds on their memberships based on the remaining time on your membership

If we did this, would it forefeit our right to receive Runamuck? I suppose we could do it just after Runabout is shipped. I guess that would hurt FunPub some. I'm still surprised that Hasbro hasn't waded in on this debacle.

Realistically the only thing Hasbro needs to do is decide whether to allow FunPub to retain the license for TF's or revoke it.

Hasbro don't really have a need to get involved in this situation, it's not their venture.
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