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Mkall wrote:

Sodan-1 wrote:What racks me off about this set is you know these pieces were conceived during the initial development of Hercules, and yet TFC made the decision to exclude them from the final product. They could have included them with the main figures, charged more for each, and guaranteed the extra coin from the fans. As it is, I for one will likely go without 'double-oh seven'.

I don't believe that for a second. I believe that TFC saw what fans were doing with their figures as they were being released, so they collected the ideas into a single set.

Possibly, but they must have theorised that these sort of modifications would happen. I can't believe that the guys who designed Hercules walked into a room one day and came up with Hercules as we know him straight off the bat. They must have discussed whether or not to give him a more G1 head, or stand-alone forearms to allow the treads to fold up by the shoulders. Maybe even experimented with rough models. Surely that's all part of developing a product.

I don't have a problem with this set (certainly not to the extent joesaysso does) I just wish they'd included them from the start. Piece by piece with each figure. So it'd have cost a little more for each figure, but at least we could've saved on the cost of shipping another unit. I just know I'm going to spend more money on this and probably not use half of it.

I could well see them coming up with the design the came up with and thinking "it's different, but that's okay". Bear in mind that the individual robots don't really look like the Constructicons and their upcoming Dinibots projects is an even further divergence than Devestator.

I agree that it'd have been nice to have those parts from the beginning, but ... I don't think they even thought of them at that point.

just wondering as i passed on herc for giant but those pieces that attach to the shoulder joint also allow the treads to collapse under the vehicle modes and then you attach the new forearms but my question is this.
arent you still sacrificing arm posability regardless of an extension of the shoulder joint?
or is it just to allow for the attachment of the forearm since the treads arent removable?

alternator77 wrote:just wondering as i passed on herc for giant but those pieces that attach to the shoulder joint also allow the treads to collapse under the vehicle modes and then you attach the new forearms but my question is this.
arent you still sacrificing arm posability regardless of an extension of the shoulder joint?
or is it just to allow for the attachment of the forearm since the treads arent removable?

Yeah, the new cofiguration wouldn't add more posability like that. BUT using the shoulder joints alone and mistransforming the arms slightly may net you much more posability.

GetRightRobot wrote:

DecepticonFinishline wrote:The thing that I dislike most about the set, however, is that it kind of spits in the metaphorical face of Hercules' greatest strength which is the integration of the combined mode into all the other modes. With this you will likely have extra bits lying around whilst the team members are in alt mode, which the biggest reason why I fell out of love with the original combiners... :/

That being said, I'll still buy it, but only if there is a way to attch these pieces to the other two forms (No matter how ridiculous it may look.)

Who has this problem? I've looked at a lot of collections on this site and others and cannot, even once, remember seeing an unassembled (made up word?) combiner team. I understand the cut in grace the figure will suffer, but come on, who displays combiners as teams and not....combined?

..... I like to change it up a little bit. :/

So this is up for pre-order at BBTS .... BUT BBTS took a big bad hit in my customer loyalty with their markup price for Herc. So I preordered from Robot Kingdom. For the cheapest shipping I believe it was about a $5 more ... that does tend to add up, though.

I think other than the gun, this set is really unnecessary. All it does is make the figure look more like Giant, nullifying the differences which made me decide to buy it in the first place. Easy pass.

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Gotta say I am a fan of the new shoulder articulation. I didn't think I'd use this new mode, but I just may at that.

Edit: And I'm just now noticing that's not a cartoon accurate head. Why not, TFC?

That makes Crazy Devy's head kinda tempting ... too bad I hate how that looks. I guess I'll just have to get used to Herc not being bald. Which is a bummer because I was looking forward tot hat part of this set the most.