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Postby Court Jester » Thu May 03, 2012 3:38 pm

Ya, Mkall, you're right. These just aren't worth it.

I think I'll just hang on to my extra Heavytreads. I like the mold as a simple troop builder grunt, and I think they fit in nicely with my Hardhead/HeadRobots headmasters trio. Maybe a clearance pick-up later, but if they never make it to clearance I'm willing to live without them. Close call on jumping the gun. Thanks for the slap back into financial reality.

If you think about it though, some people spend 30+ for Renderform and Beezleboss heads... I need a new hobby.
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Postby Mkall » Thu May 03, 2012 4:18 pm

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Court Jester wrote:Ya, Mkall, you're right. These just aren't worth it.

I never said they weren't worth it, just that I have no interest in them. They're neat figures and a cool idea to expand PCCs, but it's not my cup of tea. I had decided that if a 3rd party produced a figure that wasn't homage to any official TF, I wouldn't get it.

Comparing prices to other 3rd party things of various scales, it's pretty decent 20ish bucks for a slightly-smaller scout class figure with extra gimmicks.
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Postby Kung Fu Man » Fri May 04, 2012 12:38 am

My concern is still how much articulation can you really pull off with the original commander toys...there sadly isn't a lot of room for limb movement and posability. Btw, I keep seeing people mention that these are going to be in the $20 range, but every pre-order mention I've seen puts them at $30 or more for a set of two, meaning at least $60 total before shipping.Am I missing something like usual here?
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Postby Nemesis Destron » Fri May 04, 2012 4:59 am

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So here we are and now we wait and see or hear from the first ballsy soul that will TOFTT and give us the over all QC on these upgrades. :VEHI:
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Re: TFC Toys Iron Army Promo Images

Postby craggy » Fri May 04, 2012 5:39 am

Kung Fu Man wrote:My concern is still how much articulation can you really pull off with the original commander toys...there sadly isn't a lot of room for limb movement and posability. Btw, I keep seeing people mention that these are going to be in the $20 range, but every pre-order mention I've seen puts them at $30 or more for a set of two, meaning at least $60 total before shipping.Am I missing something like usual here?

each individual robot is around the $20 range, I think. That's how I read it anyway, and that makes them in line with other 3rd party bots of the same size, and cheaper than something like the Causality series which are a bit bigger. $20 for a Legends/small Basic sized guy that becomes a robot, vehicle and proper limb for a combiner doesn't seem too bad to me.
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Postby Flux Convoy » Thu May 24, 2012 6:59 am

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I might still get these. I'm really having a tough time deciding. The price is about ten bucks more per set than I'd originally heard they'd be. Or at least that's how I remember it. Decisions, decisions.
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Postby Motorthing » Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:53 pm

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Well I like the idea of actually being able to do something with Bombshock rather than leaving him in a box ashamed of how crappy he looks competing for shelf-love with the likes of FP Brute and Maketoys Giant. So it's a question of bite the bullet now or regret it and buy at a higher price when everyones decides they wanted them after all.......what to do what to do....?
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Re: TFC Toys Iron Army Promo Images

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:39 pm

My take on these is that they just aren't Bruticus enough, even if I had Bombshock.

I mean, the whole combiner looks pretty nice; if all you want is a nice combiner this is great. But it isn't really Bruticus.
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Postby Rated X » Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:15 pm

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It's funny how people complain about the price of every 3rd party product that ranges between $20-40. Really do you guys expect walmart prices ???

While this is not Bruticus, is it really any more Bruticus than it was with Hasbro's shitty drone limbs ??? It's an upgrade, plain and simple. Hasbro is introducing new characters to the TF continuity all the time. So if a 3rd party company can do it better, than why not ??? Bombshock's bio even said that he doesnt care about his squad of drones having the same name as another Decepticon team. (Combaticons) Even if you are a true G1 purist, at some point you probally accepted non G1 characters such as Drift, The Fallen, Sentinal Prime, etc coming into existance. These guys are cool enough to be in a comic or cartoon in my opinion. So I gotta have em !!!
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Postby Gauntlet101010 » Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:51 pm

The only reason I'd want to have this is if it was Bruticus. I mean, it's obvious supposed to be Bruticus. So it not being Bruticus is a turn-off.

My collection focuses on Transformers characters. I'm not too interested in non-TF characters, with a few exceptions. This set just isn't for me, regardless of the quality (notice I'm not saying it doesn't look good). I feel this way about all the PCC; I only got Grimstone for obvious reasons. About the only set I'd like to see similarily upgrade is the Protectobots. Because I care so little about them that their lack of G1-ness won't bug me at all.
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Re: TFC Toys Iron Army Promo Images

Postby Rated X » Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:35 pm

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Gauntlet101010 wrote:The only reason I'd want to have this is if it was Bruticus. I mean, it's obvious supposed to be Bruticus. So it not being Bruticus is a turn-off.

My collection focuses on Transformers characters. I'm not too interested in non-TF characters, with a few exceptions. This set just isn't for me, regardless of the quality (notice I'm not saying it doesn't look good). I feel this way about all the PCC; I only got Grimstone for obvious reasons. About the only set I'd like to see similarily upgrade is the Protectobots. Because I care so little about them that their lack of G1-ness won't bug me at all.



Im not in any way knocking you, but I got a question ? You say your collection focuses on "Transformers characters". Is Bombshock not a Transformers character ? Or did you mean to say "G1 Transformers characters" ?

Also, what is your stance on comic book inspired characters getting a place in your collection ? The reason I ask this is because I feel Drift is no more of a Transformers character than an upgraded Bombshock. Drift, Impactor, Sentinal Prime, The Fallen, are all examples of how somebodys idea can become part of the TF continuity and even stand side by side with G1 characters. Even funpub has created "characters" that have become accepted as part of the mainstream continuity.
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Re: TFC Toys Iron Army Promo Images

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:03 pm

Bombshock is a TF character. These extra limbs, however, are not. They're colored somewhat like the Combaticons, but they deviate far too much to really count for me. The combined effect is like a movie-ish Bruticus, but it isn't quite close enough to wet my appitite.

I will say this for it, though: If I hadn't bought the RotF version and the FP bots AND if there wasn't a FoC Bruticus coming along (bright colors or no), this would be a decent Bruticus.

I like comic characters just fine, although I'm more of a G1 TV fan. Newer characters are also nice sometimes, but I have less interest in them, save for a few exceptions. Before the 3rd party market exploded I'd buy a few on a whim, but now I save my money for TFs I really want (which tend to be $100 a pop now, geez).
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Postby Rated X » Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:40 pm

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Im a G1 cartoon guy. The Combaticons (and Starscream) were my all time favorites. I buy anything Combaticon scout size or bigger. But I must say I have found places for many non-G1 figures in my collection. I had bought the Target Bruticus before the FP upgrades were announced. I loved the individual bot molds so much that I bought the energon versions as well who I use as Shockwave's army. There were many generic Decepticons that were not seekers on Cybertron. I also plan on using the PE Arcee (blue version) as classics Chromia to display with Botcon Elita One. I want to buy the Amazon versions of FOC Combaticons to display them when they were the "Renegade Decepticons" on Cybertron. Im not exactly sure who these guys will represent, but I am a WWII buff so I like them.
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Postby Gauntlet101010 » Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:53 pm

*shurggs* different strokes for different folks. These guys are just too far removed from a TF characters for me.
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Postby Motorthing » Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:27 am

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I get that some of you like "only" those G1 Characters we all know and love from ther first run of toys, but Cybertron probably had a couple hundred million inhibitants you didn't get to meet in the first toyline so I have no problem at all with an expanding cast list. They just have to satisfy two criteria: Do they look good and do they NOT suck......

Anyway as the PE Arcee is taking forever to turn up in stock(likewise Giant C) I've pulled the trigger on both packs at BBTS so they are on the way now. The only drawback for you guys is that packages from BBTS never take less than 14 days to reach me these days so a review isn't going to be that quick in coming.
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Re: TFC Toys Iron Army Promo Images

Postby craggy » Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:30 pm

as nice as some of the G1 toys were, and as much a place they hold in my heart for nostalgia reasons, that's not why I like the characters. Comic, cartoon, etc appearances are what made them interesting characters, primarily. Appearances in works of fiction by talented creators always help establish a character in my mind, even if it is quite a memorable toy they're advertising. Flywheels is a terrible toy, but I'd gladly buy a new one, because he was a great fun character in the comics. Bombshock...well, I'll be kind...he needs a bit more spotlight before I'd think of him ahead of about a hundred or more other characters.

That said, sometimes I'll buy really good toys despite not knowing or caring for the characters. Transformers toys are always good for this, as you can make up your own character, or use a toy as a stand-in for an existing character. Haven't thrown in my money for these Iron Army guys yet, but they do seem like fun little toys that have the right sort of Transformers-y look to them that I like, and they're not super-expensive. I won't not get them because they're not established characters, but can understand people who won't.
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Postby Gauntlet101010 » Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:52 pm

It's also a budget thing. Sure these aren't that expensive, but you can't get everything.
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Postby craggy » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:00 pm

Gauntlet101010 wrote:It's also a budget thing. Sure these aren't that expensive, but you can't get everything.

oh. definitely! These guys are small, and pretty much dependant upon having a PCC commander figure to get the most out of them. For the same price you could probably get 2/3rds of the FOC Bruticus, or what have you. Or maybe a nice single figure from a 3rd party, like Motobot Arcee or Hegemon. All comes down to personal choice.

Honestly, with so much 3rd party stuff, and a decent amount of official figures that look good, I might skip these, or at least wait in hope that they go on sale. On the other hand, I'd love there to be more, since the PCC line's only failing, IMO is the lack of proper gestalt modes (even the individual robot modes for the drones wasn't the major turn-off, but the fact that Hasbro couldn't be arsed to engineer proper arm/leg modes for the little guys even without having to factor in individual robot modes for them irked me a lot)
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Postby Gauntlet101010 » Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:40 pm

I think they could have made a bunch of these when PCC were in their heyday. There's two sets I'd be down for: the Protectobots and the Dinobots.

Sure, the Dinobots wouldn't have Grimlock as the center and you have one extra spot (provided you don't want Grimmy as a mere limb ... Paddles maybe?). On the other had it'd be a great, cheap way to get us some Classics Dinobots and we can just ignore the combining feature if we wanted to go that route.

The Protectobots are almost a no brainer to me since there's so little competition. Just add in a couple replacement heads for the Hot Spot and you're good. I was never a big Defensor guy; they didn't sell him like they sold all the other original combiners, so if they made limbs for the Protectobot set I'd definately pick him up.
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Postby mattwhite924 » Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:03 pm

I just got these guys in today, and they aren't half bad. They are a bit bigger than I expected them to be, so that was a nice surprise. I do wish that he would have come with a rifle for combined mode. The plane's weapons combine, but it just doesn't look very good. If you have PRiD Arcee, her gun makes for a decent rifle for him.

I was never able to find a decent size comparison before, so now that I have it I figure I might as well give you all one. Hopefully it's helpful to anyone thinking about getting these.

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Postby craggy » Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:11 pm

mattwhite924 wrote:I just got these guys in today, and they aren't half bad. They are a bit bigger than I expected them to be, so that was a nice surprise. I do wish that he would have come with a rifle for combined mode. The plane's weapons combine, but it just doesn't look very good. If you have PRiD Arcee, her gun makes for a decent rifle for him.

I was never able to find a decent size comparison before, so now that I have it I figure I might as well give you all one. Hopefully it's helpful to anyone thinking about getting these.

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thanks for the info matt, good to know these are shipping (oh so many 3rd party products, and official ones often too, miss their estimated arrival dates by a looooooong time)

any chance you could pop them limbs on the desert camo version of the mold so I can see how it looks, since that's the only one I have?
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Postby mattwhite924 » Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:43 pm

craggy wrote:any chance you could pop them limbs on the desert camo version of the mold so I can see how it looks, since that's the only one I have?


No problem.

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Postby craggy » Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:00 am

thanks, Matt! This looks plenty decent. Will probably wait til I get paid at the end of this month, but am looking forward to getting these guys and hope that TFC make more.
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