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Re: TFC Toys Project Uranus (Superion) Updates

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Re: TFC Toys Project Uranus (Superion) Updates

Postby Stormrider » Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:00 am

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RodimalToyota wrote:Uranos has fallen far from the tree..

In arm mode there is only 30% elbow, Zero wrist articulation, and about 20% elbow articulation. Add that with the hand only having two points of articulation, instead of three like Herc..


I'm out!

Phantom is the one and only, if I don't decided to get rid of it.



dear TFC,

YOU SUCK!

Add that to the existing QC issues with Phantom and I'm starting to wonder if I should cancel my Eagle and Blackbird pre-orders until those three or even all five have been released and some more reviews have been done. My budget is far too limited to waste this much money on something that could be a massive letdown.



What are the QC issues?
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Re: TFC Toys Project Uranus (Superion) Updates

Postby RodimalToyota » Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:13 am

The Wrist turns 360 degrees in rotation, but no tilt what-so-ever.
I think it's dumb that we took two steps forward, then one step back.

Plus the Arms for Phantom, don't clip into the sides, they just keep popping out. they only stay on when you force the wings into the slit to hold the arms against the side of the plane.
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Re: TFC Toys Project Uranus (Superion) Updates

Postby Rated X » Thu Dec 27, 2012 12:32 pm

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I dont have the figure in hand yet, but some of these issues being brought up seem to be on par with Hasbro issues. I fully understand the concerns of stripping gears. But all this "this tab wont hold tight" or "they should have added more joints" is a little petty. I support TFC for bringing us this G! goodness.
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Re: TFC Toys Project Uranus (Superion) Updates

Postby xyl360 » Thu Dec 27, 2012 12:46 pm

Rated X wrote:I dont have the figure in hand yet, but some of these issues being brought up seem to be on par with Hasbro issues. I fully understand the concerns of stripping gears. But all this "this tab wont hold tight" or "they should have added more joints" is a little petty. I support TFC for bringing us this G! goodness.

I do have the figure in hand (currently in arm mode waiting for the rest of his buddies to merge with him) and I gotta agree with you on this point X. The figure is quite solid to me and while I understand what RodimalToyota is getting at comparing it to Herc, for me, the positives far outweigh the negatives and I don't regret committing to Uranos at all.
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Re: TFC Toys Project Uranus (Superion) Updates

Postby RodimalToyota » Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:07 pm

Rated X wrote:I dont have the figure in hand yet, but some of these issues being brought up seem to be on par with Hasbro issues. I fully understand the concerns of stripping gears. But all this "this tab wont hold tight" or "they should have added more joints" is a little petty. I support TFC for bringing us this G! goodness.


petty? After paying 100$ for a Voyager sized figure that came out after Hercules I expect the same quality if not better. If I want Hasbro Quality, then it should be 40$
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Re: TFC Toys Project Uranus (Superion) Updates

Postby rpetras » Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:58 pm

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Not the color choice I would have expected ;)
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Re: TFC Toys Project Uranus (Superion) Updates

Postby xyl360 » Thu Dec 27, 2012 5:50 pm

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daimchoc wrote:Image


Not the color choice I would have expected ;)

Maybe it's a not-Botcon exclusive :P.
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Re: TFC Toys Project Uranus (Superion) Updates

Postby Arctorro » Thu Dec 27, 2012 9:08 pm

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Arctorro wrote:
RodimalToyota wrote:Uranos has fallen far from the tree..

In arm mode there is only 30% elbow, Zero wrist articulation, and about 20% elbow articulation. Add that with the hand only having two points of articulation, instead of three like Herc..


I'm out!

Phantom is the one and only, if I don't decided to get rid of it.



dear TFC,

YOU SUCK!

Add that to the existing QC issues with Phantom and I'm starting to wonder if I should cancel my Eagle and Blackbird pre-orders until those three or even all five have been released and some more reviews have been done. My budget is far too limited to waste this much money on something that could be a massive letdown.



What are the QC issues?

People have mentioned squeaky hips that require you to dismantle him just so they can be greased/oiled to stop the noise. I keep thinking there was something else, but could be mixing Phantom up with something else. Don't want a $530 set that squeaks and isn't very pose-able, so holding off for the moment to see what Eagle is like. As I've said, I want these guys; just want to make sure any QC issues have been worked out.
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Re: TFC Toys Project Uranus (Superion) Updates

Postby Rated X » Thu Dec 27, 2012 9:09 pm

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RodimalToyota wrote:
Rated X wrote:I dont have the figure in hand yet, but some of these issues being brought up seem to be on par with Hasbro issues. I fully understand the concerns of stripping gears. But all this "this tab wont hold tight" or "they should have added more joints" is a little petty. I support TFC for bringing us this G! goodness.


petty? After paying 100$ for a Voyager sized figure that came out after Hercules I expect the same quality if not better. If I want Hasbro Quality, then it should be 40$


I understand how you feel, but remember each new mold is a voyage into uncharted waters. It's not like they have an F-4 Fanthom Transformer to go off of other then G1 Fireflight. While $99.00 isnt cheap by any means, you cant expect a Bentley at Lexus prices. Some of the smaller complaints might simply have been deemed out of budget for that figure. Now if you decide to spend $400 on Project Genesis, there is more room for critisism based on price.
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Re: TFC Toys Project Uranus (Superion) Updates

Postby robotmel » Sat Dec 29, 2012 4:42 am

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xyl360 wrote:
rpetras wrote:
daimchoc wrote:Image


Not the color choice I would have expected ;)

Maybe it's a not-Botcon exclusive :P.


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Re: TFC Toys Project Uranus (Superion) Updates

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Re: TFC Toys Project Uranus (Superion) Updates

Postby Trikeboy » Mon Dec 31, 2012 7:54 am

sweet, real colours soon though please.
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Re: TFC Toys Project Uranus (Superion) Updates

Postby Sodan-1 » Mon Dec 31, 2012 7:22 pm

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My interest in this project has officially expired. I'm not going to pretend that they're bad figures or designs, I'm simply not as excited about them as I need to be to spend the required amount of money. I may pick them up eventually. For some reason I've got the urge to at least pick up Blackbird and create some kind of Universe/TFC hybrid.
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Re: TFC Toys Project Uranus (Superion) Updates

Postby Stormrider » Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:32 am

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Sodan-1 wrote:My interest in this project has officially expired. I'm not going to pretend that they're bad figures or designs, I'm simply not as excited about them as I need to be to spend the required amount of money. I may pick them up eventually. For some reason I've got the urge to at least pick up Blackbird and create some kind of Universe/TFC hybrid.


I am feeling the same way about my interest in them. I don't think they are bad figures. The engineering and the alt mode designs are well done. Aside from the price - the size and robot heads just don't fit in with the other figures that I am collecting.
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Re: TFC Toys Project Uranus (Superion) Updates

Postby Rated X » Tue Jan 01, 2013 1:08 pm

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I bought that X-Transbots G1 gun and I hope we see a proper G1 head from Crazydevy soon. Plus some Reprolabels. If Im gonna blow another 600 bucks, In goin all in !!!
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Re: TFC Toys Project Uranus (Superion) Updates

Postby rpetras » Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:44 pm

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One of the things I LOVED about Herc were all the add on kits, so you could adjust his look to your personal taste.

Mine is actually still stock, but I have the Rage kit, the purple barrel and some of the shapeways sets so I can change him up if the spirit moves me.

I plan to do the same with Superion if kits get released for him too.

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Re: TFC Toys Project Uranus (Superion) Updates

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Re: TFC Toys Project Uranus (Superion) Updates

Postby robotmel » Wed Jan 02, 2013 3:52 pm

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:lol:
Ha ha ha!
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He's like an updated Seeker as far as I can see, nothing really amazing in my opinion, but each to their own 3P eh!
Maybe it was just the review...? :-?

Does he have any foot articulation or is he just the same as the Classics Seeker? :???:

For the price I can safely say I will definately not be buying him or any of the TFC combiners, except maybe Iron Army as they are much more fitting and price worthy for what they offer as a Transformer!
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Re: TFC Toys Project Uranus (Superion) Updates

Postby xyl360 » Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:56 pm

Rated X wrote:I bought that X-Transbots G1 gun and I hope we see a proper G1 head from Crazydevy soon. Plus some Reprolabels. If Im gonna blow another 600 bucks, In goin all in !!!

Same here. If I have to buy some add-ons to make him look 'just right' then that's OK with me. I bought the Rage set for Herc for the shoulder extensions (though I kept the treads as the forearms, I just wanted his shoulders widened) and it looks great.

If they do a more G1-ish chest shield then I'll probably bite on that as well. I haven't bought the canon/gun yet only because I'm not sure what weapons TFC is going to include, but if they don't have a black arm canon for the combined mode, I'll buy that one as well (assuming it can be mounted on his arm like in the show).
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Re: TFC Toys Project Uranus (Superion) Updates

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Re: TFC Toys Project Uranus (Superion) Updates

Postby rpetras » Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:04 pm

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robotmel wrote:He's like an updated Seeker as far as I can see

Does he have any foot articulation or is he just the same as the Classics Seeker?


It is less like an updated Classics seeker, and more like a scaled down MP Seeker.

There is a lot of detail, and a good number of moving parts, but not so many as to be confusing or make it feel flimsy, the way the first MP Seeker mold did.

To answer your question, yes, there is foot articulation. The foot is attached to a ball joint that is in turn attached to a moving post (used for the transform).

I do have a couple minor complaints. Neither the individual bots, nor the Superion arm have appreciable wrist articulation.

The wrist attachment on Superion NEEDS to be extended so it can twist past the engines. It will also allow a LOT more poses of the arm. Hopefully this will come out as a simple replacement part with one of the other bots.
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Re: TFC Toys Project Uranus (Superion) Updates

Postby robotmel » Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:15 pm

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rpetras wrote:To answer your question, yes, there is foot articulation. The foot is attached to a ball joint that is in turn attached to a moving post (used for the transform.

;)
Ah, cheers for that.
Maybe it was the review, but despite its massive length ( :lol: ) the reviewer failed to angle the feet/ankles which made me think of the Classics Seekers and their lack of articulation.

I wouldnt complain if a set of these fell into my lap, its just the price with shipping which puts these out of my grasp, more so this year since im about to have a baby! :grin:
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Re: TFC Toys Project Uranus (Superion) Updates

Postby Arctorro » Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:11 pm

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robotmel wrote:I wouldnt complain if a set of these fell into my lap, its just the price with shipping which puts these out of my grasp, more so this year since im about to have a baby! :grin:


1) Shame it's out of your price range.

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Re: TFC Toys Project Uranus (Superion) Updates

Postby Stormrider » Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:12 pm

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I am surprised to see that Eagles hands do not fold in or disguisein the alt mode. A lazy design in my opinion. Overall there is a lot of detail and give credit there, but the transformations seem a bit simple and robot modes could be a little better.
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