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Re: TFCC "Beast Wars Shattered Glass" Preview Page

Postby gavinfuzzy » Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:43 pm

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Re: TFCC "Beast Wars Shattered Glass" Preview Page

Postby Wigglez » Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:46 pm

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I don't have any con-exclusice comics or any Shattered Glass comics. But I do have some Beast Wars comics like The Gathering which combines BWII and BWNeo I think, during the time the first BW series. I even had some figures like Polarclaw which was badass and and the Magnaboss combiner toy before I even found out there was was even BW from Japanese anime. I became more of a fan since I watched them after the first series. All of that being said, I will not read this. It just feels like it's butchering Beast Wars and if you people know me which most of you don't, Beast Wars is really my favorite arch of all Transformers series'. I definitely pass
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Re: TFCC "Beast Wars Shattered Glass" Preview Page

Postby KNM2012 » Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:17 pm

xyl360 wrote:edit: And I LOATHE that they're retconing these guys into Autobots. Screw that, they're Maximals. Always have been, always will be. If Hasbro wants to pretend that the Beast Wars never happened, that's up to them, but those figures were all released under the Beast Wars line as Maximals, not as 'Autobots'. :MAXIMAL:


We don't know the full story. And they are not doing any retcons, as this has nothing to do with the Beast Wars/Machine Wars/Beast Machines trilogy. ;) However, we may be seeing the precursor to the birth of the "Shattered Glass" Maximals. Which may explain why Prowl was looking cheerful they were not talking about finding a way to abolish the Decepticons. Because they are not those kind of Autobots. Which makes me wonder if encountering any will have decide to create the Maximal faction. :-?

Besides, what annoys me the most is that neither TOMY nor e-HOBBY will integrate Ultra Mammoth into TOMY's Beast Wars continuity... Nor reissue any of the Beast Wars characters. :sad:
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Re: TFCC "Beast Wars Shattered Glass" Preview Page

Postby xyl360 » Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:40 pm

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:
xyl360 wrote:edit: And I LOATHE that they're retconing these guys into Autobots. Screw that, they're Maximals. Always have been, always will be. If Hasbro wants to pretend that the Beast Wars never happened, that's up to them, but those figures were all released under the Beast Wars line as Maximals, not as 'Autobots'. :MAXIMAL:


We don't know the full story. And they are not doing any retcons, as this has nothing to do with the Beast Wars/Machine Wars/Beast Machines trilogy. ;) However, we may be seeing the precursor to the birth of the "Shattered Glass" Maximals. Which may explain why Prowl was looking cheerful they were not talking about finding a way to abolish the Decepticons. Because they are not those kind of Autobots. Which makes me wonder if encountering any will have decide to create the Maximal faction. :-?

Besides, what annoys me the most is that neither TOMY nor e-HOBBY will integrate Ultra Mammoth into TOMY's Beast Wars continuity... Nor reissue any of the Beast Wars characters. :sad:

I suspect it's Habro holding them back with the new 'Aligned' continuity and whatnot, though I could be wrong.

Takara was more dedicated to Beast Wars back in the day than Hasbro was. They released so many exclusives (Lucky Draws and the likes), different toys etc. that never saw a release in the US, a trading card game, 2 entire animated series in addition to the CGI (just to fill in the time gap between the release and subsequent translation of Season 1 and Season 2). In fact, I've spent a great deal of time and money as a collector attempting to gather just about all things Beast Wars and have found that there turns out to be tons more Takara product out there than there is Hasbro/Kenner. I think they took the entire concept of the Beast Wars and ran with it (even if Optimus Primal was Convoy to them :P).

I know Beast Wars isn't the most popular continuity/toyline etc. in the fandom, but it was by far my favorite story and my favorite toyline so if anyone does more Beast Wars figures, be they new molds (and no, those Beast Hunters figures do NOT count, they are NOTHING like actual Beast Wars toys), repaints or retools (new heads etc.), then I'll snatch them up as fast as I can.

Anyway, like I said, I don't care about what fiction they choose to create. I never got into the comics anyway. I just want good toys which is why I signed up for the club this year. Only time will tell if I buy the Botcon set, but if it's all Machine Wars, then I probably won't be getting it unless they use some really cool molds. If they ever do a set composed completely of Beast Wars repaints and/or retools, I'll buy it in a heartbeat, even if I can't attend Botcon.
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Re: TFCC "Beast Wars Shattered Glass" Preview Page

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:07 am

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xyl360 wrote:edit: And I LOATHE that they're retconing these guys into Autobots. Screw that, they're Maximals. Always have been, always will be. If Hasbro wants to pretend that the Beast Wars never happened, that's up to them, but those figures were all released under the Beast Wars line as Maximals, not as 'Autobots'. :MAXIMAL:
It's called "repurposing". Fiction can portray a character differently from how its toy was presented, or even create entirely new characters from an existing character's toy. In this case, they're using toys of G1 Autobots-turned-Maximals to represent Autobots using Pretender technology.

UltraPrimal wrote:I'm sorry, but this isn't "Shattered Glass" Beast Wars. This is just normal Beast Wars.
Spoilers: Since this seems to focus on the Classicverse G1 characters (due to Ultra Magnus being in his Classics body), this probably takes place in the Shatteredverse since the Classicverse's Planet Earth (along with all of the Classicverse's last surviving occupants who were on that Earth at the time) was pulled into the Shatteredverse during a massive trans-dimensional cataclysm in the BotCon 2012 "Invasion" comic story. So, now we got a whole planet of Classics characters existing in the world of Shattered Glass.

UltraPrimal wrote:If this is the new direction they're taking with the comic, then why the hell is this years BotCon set Machine Wars based?! Why not dig out the old BW molds, or even the Cybertron Beast Planet figures, and repaint those in "Shattered Glass" colors. Gah! This just has FAIL written all over it!
Except for 2007, the magazine comic stories and convention comic stories have ALWAYS gone in their own directions separate from each other. That's the standard for how they've been doing these stories:
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  • 2006 - BotCon: Pre-Beast Wars story, magazine: TF: Cybertron story
  • 2007 - BotCon: Classics story, magazine: Classics story (lone exception)
  • 2008 - Botcon: Shattered Glass story, magazine: TransTech story
  • 2009 - BotCon Wings Universe pre-G1 story, magazine: Shattered Glass story
  • 2010 - BotCon: Wings Universe G2 story, magazine: Wings universe pre-G1 story
  • 2011 - BotCon: Animated story, magazine: Wings universe pre-G1 story
  • 2012 - BotCon: Classics/Shattered Glass story, magazine: Wings Universe G2 story
  • 2013 - BotCon: Machine Wars story, magazine "Beast Wars Shattered Glass" (whatever that means) story

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Note how this isn't in the usual Beast Wars time frame (before the Great Reformatting to be exact) and even after taking their new forms, they still call themselves Autobots. I'd like to see as yet another universal stream under threat of, or at least participating in, the "Invasion" storyline from last year's BotCon.
Yeah, this may not even be the same timeline that the Beast wars cartoon even takes place in. It could be just another G1 world that's getting ready to transition into its own rendition of the Beast Era. ;)

RAcast wrote:In any case, this is obviously taking place before the Great Reformatting, and therefore they still call themselves Autobots. I think someone said that already, but in case it hasn't been said, thought I'd throw it out there. ;)
That's IF it does take place in the same timeline as the Beast Wars cartoon, since it's also possible that this is some other world from the one portrayed in that show and such. ;)
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Re: TFCC "Beast Wars Shattered Glass" Preview Page

Postby xyl360 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:21 am

Hmm, perhaps this comic's intent is to explain exactly how the Autobots and Decepticons (and later the Maximals and Predacons) first developed the capability to replicate organic life forms with their scanners, something that was never really explained in the Beast Wars series. It makes sense that it would involve 'Pretender' technology, though I've no idea how 'Powermaster' tech would fit into it (but why not right :P?).

Still, hopefully we'll see some Beast Wars repaints out of this. If we get those, I don't care what the fiction is. So far the only ones that Funpub has done that I'm aware of are Ultra Mammoth (Big Convoy) and Virulent Clone/Buzzsaw/Dirge (all from the Beast Wars Buzzclaw mold). All the rest I believe were 3H and Botcon Japan in the late 90's.
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Re: TFCC "Beast Wars Shattered Glass" Preview Page

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:01 am

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xyl360 wrote:Hmm, perhaps this comic's intent is to explain exactly how the Autobots and Decepticons (and later the Maximals and Predacons) first developed the capability to replicate organic life forms with their scanners, something that was never really explained in the Beast Wars series. It makes sense that it would involve 'Pretender' technology, though I've no idea how 'Powermaster' tech would fit into it (but why not right :P?).
This looks more like the Classics characters in the Shattered Glass universe, making this have nothing to do with the Beast Wars cartoon world and instead be a new, alternate Beast wars setting. ;)
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Re: TFCC "Beast Wars Shattered Glass" Preview Page

Postby RAcast » Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:06 am

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xyl360 wrote:Hmm, perhaps this comic's intent is to explain exactly how the Autobots and Decepticons (and later the Maximals and Predacons) first developed the capability to replicate organic life forms with their scanners, something that was never really explained in the Beast Wars series. It makes sense that it would involve 'Pretender' technology, though I've no idea how 'Powermaster' tech would fit into it (but why not right :P?).

Still, hopefully we'll see some Beast Wars repaints out of this. If we get those, I don't care what the fiction is. So far the only ones that Funpub has done that I'm aware of are Ultra Mammoth (Big Convoy) and Virulent Clone/Buzzsaw/Dirge (all from the Beast Wars Buzzclaw mold). All the rest I believe were 3H and Botcon Japan in the late 90's.

I like that idea! My reaction to the Powermaster tech being involved was similar, haha. Perhaps it's involved in making the new bodies tougher? :lol: (see: Waspinator)
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Re: TFCC "Beast Wars Shattered Glass" Preview Page

Postby xyl360 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:23 am

RAcast wrote:
xyl360 wrote:Hmm, perhaps this comic's intent is to explain exactly how the Autobots and Decepticons (and later the Maximals and Predacons) first developed the capability to replicate organic life forms with their scanners, something that was never really explained in the Beast Wars series. It makes sense that it would involve 'Pretender' technology, though I've no idea how 'Powermaster' tech would fit into it (but why not right :P?).

Still, hopefully we'll see some Beast Wars repaints out of this. If we get those, I don't care what the fiction is. So far the only ones that Funpub has done that I'm aware of are Ultra Mammoth (Big Convoy) and Virulent Clone/Buzzsaw/Dirge (all from the Beast Wars Buzzclaw mold). All the rest I believe were 3H and Botcon Japan in the late 90's.

I like that idea! My reaction to the Powermaster tech being involved was similar, haha. Perhaps it's involved in making the new bodies tougher? :lol: (see: Waspinator)

I think you're onto something there. There's got to be some serious tech behind Waspy's uncanny ability to survive...life as Waspinator :P.
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Re: TFCC "Beast Wars Shattered Glass" Preview Page

Postby STngAR » Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:59 am

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Re: TFCC "Beast Wars Shattered Glass" Preview Page

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:41 pm

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Clarification from the Club:

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Lets clear up some things about the 2013 story BEAST WARS Shattered Glass... The SG Universe is now home to Classics Earth.
Along with Classics earth, a few dozen Heroic Autobots and Evil Decepticons now reside in the Shattered Glass Universe.
BEAST WARS Shattered Glass takes place in the distant past on Shattered Glass Earth and features the Heroic Maximals led by Ultra Mammoth
Fighting against the Evil Predacons. WHO these Preds are will be revealed in Issue 49. The story focuses on the Classics characters.
However, with this story taking place ON Shattered Glass Earth, there may be some cool twists...
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Re: TFCC "Beast Wars Shattered Glass" Preview Page

Postby Mindmaster » Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:51 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Clarification from the Club:

Lets clear up some things about the 2013 story BEAST WARS Shattered Glass... The SG Universe is now home to Classics Earth.
Along with Classics earth, a few dozen Heroic Autobots and Evil Decepticons now reside in the Shattered Glass Universe.
BEAST WARS Shattered Glass takes place in the distant past on Shattered Glass Earth and features the Heroic Maximals led by Ultra Mammoth
Fighting against the Evil Predacons. WHO these Preds are will be revealed in Issue 49. The story focuses on the Classics characters.
However, with this story taking place ON Shattered Glass Earth, there may be some cool twists...


That clears up a lot of enigma. I was wondering how they were going to pull it off.
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Re: TFCC "Beast Wars Shattered Glass" Preview Page

Postby El Duque » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:45 pm

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The official Transformers Collectors' Club has tweeted out a little clarification regarding their recently previewed "Beast Wars Shattered Glass" comic, which will be featured in upcoming issues of the club magazine. See the tweets below:

Lets clear up some things about the 2013 story BEAST WARS Shattered Glass... The SG Universe is now home to Classics Earth.
Along with Classics earth, a few dozen Heroic Autobots and Evil Decepticons now reside in the Shattered Glass Universe.
BEAST WARS Shattered Glass takes place in the distant past on Shattered Glass Earth and features the Heroic Maximals led by Ultra Mammoth
Fighting against the Evil Predacons. WHO these Preds are will be revealed in Issue 49. The story focuses on the Classics characters.
However, with this story taking place ON Shattered Glass Earth, there may be some cool twists...


Issue 49 of The TRANSFORMERS COLLECTORS' CLUB MAGAZINE kicks off the new year in a BIG way with the debut of a NEW team of Maximals led by Ultra Mammoth! The all-new ongoing comic story "Beast Wars Shattered Glass" is featured exclusively in the TCC Magazine. Check out the preview below. And for more information on the TRANSFORMERS COLLECTORS' CLUB be sure to visit http://transformersclub.com/


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Re: TFCC "Beast Wars Shattered Glass" Preview Page

Postby xyl360 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:22 pm

Let's see those Preds. Hopefully we'll be getting some Beast Wars repaints out of this, though so far it doesn't look like it (other than Ultra Mammoth who we already knew about).
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Re: TFCC "Beast Wars Shattered Glass" Preview Page

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Re: TFCC "Beast Wars Shattered Glass" Preview Page

Postby Mindmaster » Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:23 pm

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xyl360 wrote:Let's see those Preds. Hopefully we'll be getting some Beast Wars repaints out of this, though so far it doesn't look like it (other than Ultra Mammoth who we already knew about).


I can see them repainting Universe Dinobot into Grimlock. But for the rest of them, I couldn't tell you.
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:BANG_HEAD: I just hope we move through EVERYTHING SHATTERED GLASS as quickly as possible. The next obvious step would be DOUBLE SHATTERED GLASS where the heroic Decepticons are evil! OOOOOOOOHH HOOO HOOO :DANCE: This is the laziest abuse of a multiverse concept ever. It sucks.
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Re: TFCC "Beast Wars Shattered Glass" Preview Page

Postby Mindmaster » Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:40 pm

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GetRightRobot wrote:The next obvious step would be DOUBLE SHATTERED GLASS where the heroic Decepticons are evil!


Hmm, Shattered Shattered Glass, where Autobots are good and Decepticons are evil...

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Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:05 pm

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Guys, this is "Shattered Glass the World", not "Shattered Glass the Concept".

These are Classicverse Autobots becoming Maximals taking part in their own Beast Wars in the ancient past of the Shatteredverse's Earth.
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Postby Mindmaster » Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:09 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Guys, this is "Shattered Glass the World", not "Shattered Glass the Concept".

These are Classicverse Autobots becoming Maximals taking part in their own Beast Wars in the ancient past of the Shatteredverse's Earth.


But the question is... how did they get to Shattered Glass Earth's distant past?
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Postby Mkall » Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:16 pm

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I gotta admit that I enjoyed the Shattered Glass concept. I would've even accepted Magnus, Prowl, Ironhide & Silverbolt going back to the past and acquiring their Beast Forms.

But I'm having a REALLY tough time accepting this line of rationalization. There's just too much going on in FunPub's universe as a whole right now that just seems forced to justify a few toys.
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Re: TFCC "Beast Wars Shattered Glass" Preview Page

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:17 pm

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Mindmaster wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Guys, this is "Shattered Glass the World", not "Shattered Glass the Concept".

These are Classicverse Autobots becoming Maximals taking part in their own Beast Wars in the ancient past of the Shatteredverse's Earth.


But the question is... how did they get to Shattered Glass Earth's distant past?
There is an answer, but it's very spoilerific for those who haven't been keeping up with the Fun Pub fiction.

This is the most straightforward rundown of events leading up to this that I've seen. But, again, spoilers.
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Re: TFCC "Beast Wars Shattered Glass" Preview Page

Postby Mindmaster » Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:21 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Guys, this is "Shattered Glass the World", not "Shattered Glass the Concept".

These are Classicverse Autobots becoming Maximals taking part in their own Beast Wars in the ancient past of the Shatteredverse's Earth.


But the question is... how did they get to Shattered Glass Earth's distant past?
There is an answer, but it's very spoilerific for those who haven't been keeping up with the Fun Pub fiction.

This is the most straightforward rundown of events leading up to this that I've seen. But, again, spoilers.


Honest to God, that explanation makes perfect sense.
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Re: TFCC "Beast Wars Shattered Glass" Preview Page

Postby Seibertron » Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:35 pm

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Mkall wrote:I gotta admit that I enjoyed the Shattered Glass concept. I would've even accepted Magnus, Prowl, Ironhide & Silverbolt going back to the past and acquiring their Beast Forms.

But I'm having a REALLY tough time accepting this line of rationalization. There's just too much going on in FunPub's universe as a whole right now that just seems forced to justify a few toys.


I agree that there's too much going on with FunPub's "universe". It's extremely convoluted. I'm pretty knee deep with the Transformers hobby and I really have no idea what's going on with the FunPub stuff. It's such a mess that I gave up trying to understand what's going on. It's a bummer too ... because there could have been some cool stuff such as integrating the upcoming Depth Charge figure into the BotCon 2006 pre-Beast Wars storyline, retconning Ultra Mammoth into the original Beast Wars stories (or at least the IDW storyline), introducing Circuit and Scourge into THE Classics Universe, and so on. I'd rather have a 6 to 8 page mini-comic (ala the old Masters of the Universe mini-comics and the Target exclusive Transformers DOTM toys) that gives the characters a little backstory that just makes for a fun read instead of trying to build upon an ill-conceived, extremely convoluted and difficult-to-follow multi-universe storyline.
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Re: TFCC "Beast Wars Shattered Glass" Preview Page

Postby GetRightRobot » Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:30 pm

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What Seibertron said. PLUS, it's tired. Shattered Glass has become a sack of laundry. Work.

My opinion only. Lets move on to something different SGCC....I mean TFCC.
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