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Postby Sonray » Tue Jul 31, 2007 8:49 pm

Autobot032 wrote:In all fairness, the camera moves so friggin' fast and so shaky...


ITS NOT SHAKY!!! :-x :-x :-x :HEADHURTS: :BANG_HEAD: :BOOM:

lol...ok it does move fast but it isnt shaky, and when it is it isnt accidental, as it is used to make a scene look faster and more dramatic, its best suited to car chases IMO, but it gives a sense of vibration to the scene. I never thought it was too shaky though, but then again im an action flick freak and i have the reflexes of a cat so im used to fast stuff.
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Postby autobot commander » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:27 pm

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Ghaax wrote:Or maybe the humans just didn't know how to use allspark properly? maybe it has instructions printed on it in cybertronian, but humans couldn't read it.

"press button "a" to create mindles killing machines" :lol:


"Press Any Key"

Where's the damn "Any" key?!


that's priceless :D
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Postby Insurgent » Wed Aug 01, 2007 5:40 am

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Autobot032 wrote:All Earth technology was reverse engineered from Megatron.

The Allspark could detect this, and created evil drones. That coupled with the fact that they had no real programming in their brains...and well...you get the idea.


Thats what i was gonna say.

If you paid attention to the thin plot you would have noticed this. Sector 7 told us during the film that all of earths current technology was reversed engineered from Megatron, and since he is evil then once the allspark gives life to our technology then it will inevitably be evil as well.


I noticed what they said about the reverse engineering. But I never considered it like Autobot032.

I missed the Xbox one on screen. Dang it!


Jeez was you actually awake when you watched the movie? Lets see you missed starscream during the credits and now you totally missed the 360 transformer! It was a hilarious scene and it wasnt just a "blink and you'll miss it" kinda thing.

Pay attention next time lad! :P


yeah put more attention!!!!! i suppose u didnt even notice that ratchet cut brawl's hand or when did bb's legs blew of...


I didn't notice Brawl's hand, but I did see BB's legs go. It was all moving to fast for me to take everything in. I was still in awe over the battle, I couldn't notice every tiny detail the first run out. That's what repeat showings are for. :D
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Postby Auto Bot » Wed Aug 01, 2007 6:57 am

It's Bay's poor storyline that's creating all this confusion.
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Postby Sonray » Wed Aug 01, 2007 9:10 am

Auto Bot wrote:It's Bay's poor storyline that's creating all this confusion.


No, its not. Get over it. Its called fast pacing and editing, something very important if you want to pull off an action scene. The storyline Bay had nothing to do with, as that falls on the shoulders of the writers. 8-|
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Postby kendragon » Wed Aug 01, 2007 10:51 am

I think for the DVD release of the movie they should add a text scroller to the start ala star wars... then they could explain in it all the stuff that we dont really 'get' in the movie... like why the allspark creates evil robots and stuff... :grin:
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Postby Decepticon Spike » Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:42 pm

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kendragon wrote:I think for the DVD release of the movie they should add a text scroller to the start ala star wars... then they could explain in it all the stuff that we dont really 'get' in the movie... like why the allspark creates evil robots and stuff... :grin:

I don't think that would be needed. Use your imagination.
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Postby Shadowman » Wed Aug 01, 2007 1:42 pm

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Auto Bot wrote:It's Bay's poor storyline that's creating all this confusion.


Now, I'm looking at the script, which was written years before Michael Bay signed on.

Strangely enough, it only says "Roberto Orci" and "Alex Kurtzman."

Also, it was a good story.
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Postby Sonray » Wed Aug 01, 2007 3:24 pm

kendragon wrote:I think for the DVD release of the movie they should add a text scroller to the start ala star wars... then they could explain in it all the stuff that we dont really 'get' in the movie... like why the allspark creates evil robots and stuff... :grin:


Erm..didnt you read any of the posts in this thread? The allspark creates evil robots because all of earths technology is reverse engineered from the technology Sector 7 found when they dug up Megatron.

Simple really. What else do people not understand? The plot was, as far as im concerned, easy as pie to follow and understand.
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Postby Saberspark model H. » Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:08 pm

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What i think as that the nearest transformer was megatron thus influencing the allspark to create evil beins
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Postby Sonray » Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:33 pm

Saberspark model H. wrote:What i think as that the nearest transformer was megatron thus influencing the allspark to create evil beins


No...no..noo people please, listen: It created bad robots because ALL earth technology was reversed engineered from Megatron.

So all our technology has the essence of Megatrons evil within it hence why the allspark only created evil robots.
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Postby Auto Bot » Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:11 am

Shadowman wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:It's Bay's poor storyline that's creating all this confusion.


Now, I'm looking at the script, which was written years before Michael Bay signed on.

Strangely enough, it only says "Roberto Orci" and "Alex Kurtzman."

Also, it was a good story.


If so, then Bay as director, screwed up the scenes.
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Postby Auto Bot » Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:13 am

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kendragon wrote:I think for the DVD release of the movie they should add a text scroller to the start ala star wars... then they could explain in it all the stuff that we dont really 'get' in the movie... like why the allspark creates evil robots and stuff... :grin:

I don't think that would be needed. Use your imagination.


We'd have to get George Lucas into the game to do that scroller. He's the one and only expert in that department.

I'd imagine maybe Lucas even have that procedure copyrighted!
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Postby Insurgent » Thu Aug 02, 2007 7:28 am

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kendragon wrote:I think for the DVD release of the movie they should add a text scroller to the start ala star wars... then they could explain in it all the stuff that we dont really 'get' in the movie... like why the allspark creates evil robots and stuff... :grin:

I don't think that would be needed. Use your imagination.


We'd have to get George Lucas into the game to do that scroller. He's the one and only expert in that department.

I'd imagine maybe Lucas even have that procedure copyrighted!


Nope. The original tf movie had scrolling at the start and it worked well, especially with Victor Carolli's narration of it. And that came after Star Wars.

And there was nothing wrong with the scenes. This was the only thing that I didn't get, which is why I thought the Allspark was evil. I didn't figure Megatron's essence would be in Earth machinery. But that's me not joining the dots, nothing to do with the script.

If anything, the scenes were filled with too much. But then, the film wouldn't be as brilliant as it was. Which is why DVD's come in handy. You can watch the fights over again and watch things you missed in the cinema. Which always happens. I like it. It gives you extra joy watching it through again.
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Postby Auto Bot » Thu Aug 02, 2007 7:47 am

Insurgent wrote:
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Decepticon Spike wrote:
kendragon wrote:I think for the DVD release of the movie they should add a text scroller to the start ala star wars... then they could explain in it all the stuff that we dont really 'get' in the movie... like why the allspark creates evil robots and stuff... :grin:

I don't think that would be needed. Use your imagination.


We'd have to get George Lucas into the game to do that scroller. He's the one and only expert in that department.

I'd imagine maybe Lucas even have that procedure copyrighted!


Nope. The original tf movie had scrolling at the start and it worked well, especially with Victor Carolli's narration of it. And that came after Star Wars.

And there was nothing wrong with the scenes. This was the only thing that I didn't get, which is why I thought the Allspark was evil. I didn't figure Megatron's essence would be in Earth machinery. But that's me not joining the dots, nothing to do with the script.

If anything, the scenes were filled with too much. But then, the film wouldn't be as brilliant as it was. Which is why DVD's come in handy. You can watch the fights over again and watch things you missed in the cinema. Which always happens. I like it. It gives you extra joy watching it through again.


Now that's a way of making the movie a big blockbuster in the cinema, and a big blockbuster DVD sale!
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Postby Insurgent » Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:13 am

Auto Bot wrote:
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Decepticon Spike wrote:
kendragon wrote:I think for the DVD release of the movie they should add a text scroller to the start ala star wars... then they could explain in it all the stuff that we dont really 'get' in the movie... like why the allspark creates evil robots and stuff... :grin:

I don't think that would be needed. Use your imagination.


We'd have to get George Lucas into the game to do that scroller. He's the one and only expert in that department.

I'd imagine maybe Lucas even have that procedure copyrighted!


Nope. The original tf movie had scrolling at the start and it worked well, especially with Victor Carolli's narration of it. And that came after Star Wars.

And there was nothing wrong with the scenes. This was the only thing that I didn't get, which is why I thought the Allspark was evil. I didn't figure Megatron's essence would be in Earth machinery. But that's me not joining the dots, nothing to do with the script.

If anything, the scenes were filled with too much. But then, the film wouldn't be as brilliant as it was. Which is why DVD's come in handy. You can watch the fights over again and watch things you missed in the cinema. Which always happens. I like it. It gives you extra joy watching it through again.


Now that's a way of making the movie a big blockbuster in the cinema, and a big blockbuster DVD sale!


Slag him off all you want, the man knows what he's doing. :P
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Postby Auto Bot » Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:20 am

Insurgent wrote:
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Insurgent wrote:
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Decepticon Spike wrote:
kendragon wrote:I think for the DVD release of the movie they should add a text scroller to the start ala star wars... then they could explain in it all the stuff that we dont really 'get' in the movie... like why the allspark creates evil robots and stuff... :grin:

I don't think that would be needed. Use your imagination.


We'd have to get George Lucas into the game to do that scroller. He's the one and only expert in that department.

I'd imagine maybe Lucas even have that procedure copyrighted!


Nope. The original tf movie had scrolling at the start and it worked well, especially with Victor Carolli's narration of it. And that came after Star Wars.

And there was nothing wrong with the scenes. This was the only thing that I didn't get, which is why I thought the Allspark was evil. I didn't figure Megatron's essence would be in Earth machinery. But that's me not joining the dots, nothing to do with the script.

If anything, the scenes were filled with too much. But then, the film wouldn't be as brilliant as it was. Which is why DVD's come in handy. You can watch the fights over again and watch things you missed in the cinema. Which always happens. I like it. It gives you extra joy watching it through again.


Now that's a way of making the movie a big blockbuster in the cinema, and a big blockbuster DVD sale!


Slag him off all you want, the man knows what he's doing. :P


Hail George Lucas!

Long live George Lucas!

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Postby Decepticon Spike » Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:45 am

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Shadowman wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:It's Bay's poor storyline that's creating all this confusion.


Now, I'm looking at the script, which was written years before Michael Bay signed on.

Strangely enough, it only says "Roberto Orci" and "Alex Kurtzman."

Also, it was a good story.


If so, then Bay as director, screwed up the scenes.

How would you have done it?
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Postby Auto Bot » Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:53 am

Decepticon Spike wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:
Shadowman wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:It's Bay's poor storyline that's creating all this confusion.


Now, I'm looking at the script, which was written years before Michael Bay signed on.

Strangely enough, it only says "Roberto Orci" and "Alex Kurtzman."

Also, it was a good story.


If so, then Bay as director, screwed up the scenes.

How would you have done it?


Which part?
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Postby Sonray » Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:26 am

Auto Bot wrote:Hail George Lucas!

Long live George Lucas!

:grin:


George Lucas is an idiot, and IMO in the same category of bad directors as Uwe Boll.
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Postby Prowl_83 » Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:32 am

Very telling that most people's favourite Star Wars film is Empire - the one he DIDN'T direct...

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Postby Auto Bot » Thu Aug 02, 2007 10:06 am

Prowl_83 wrote:Very telling that most people's favourite Star Wars film is Empire - the one he DIDN'T direct...

:-?


Hmmm... interesting. I didn't know that. :-?
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Postby Tankman » Thu Aug 02, 2007 10:08 am

Know that, i did not.
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Postby PRiMESDESTiNY » Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:34 am

Prowl_83 wrote:Very telling that most people's favourite Star Wars film is Empire - the one he DIDN'T direct...

:-?



hmmm...i didnt know he didnt direct that one and it is actually my favorite one out of all of em....hmmm.... :-?
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Postby Sonray » Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:43 am

PRiMES┴DESTiNY wrote:
Prowl_83 wrote:Very telling that most people's favourite Star Wars film is Empire - the one he DIDN'T direct...

:-?



hmmm...i didnt know he didnt direct that one and it is actually my favorite one out of all of em....hmmm.... :-?


Heh, i rest my case.
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