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Re: The BEST Beast-based Transformers toy molds

Postby RhA » Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:50 pm

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xyl360 wrote:
Va'al wrote:This thread has actually just made me want to buy the Animated Dinobots.
They're adorable! And look really good from what I can see.

Does Animated Blackarachnia get a mention in here? Both modes look fantastic.

I have the Animated Dinobots and Blackarachnia and they are awesome. I particularly like the triceratops formerly known as Slag in beast mode. He's awesome.


They're all awesome. What sucks is their non-integrated weapons. When they're in beastmode, the weapons just... Lie there. Also- Swoop's all and chain in neutered for no reason.

Whining aside, you should already have owned these guys.
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Re: The BEST Beast-based Transformers toy molds

Postby Va'al » Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:57 pm

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xyl360 wrote:
Va'al wrote:This thread has actually just made me want to buy the Animated Dinobots.
They're adorable! And look really good from what I can see.

Does Animated Blackarachnia get a mention in here? Both modes look fantastic.

I have the Animated Dinobots and Blackarachnia and they are awesome. I particularly like the triceratops formerly known as Slag in beast mode. He's awesome.


They're all awesome. What sucks is their non-integrated weapons. When they're in beastmode, the weapons just... Lie there. Also- Swoop's all and chain in neutered for no reason.

Whining aside, you should already have owned these guys.


I never saw Animated until last year, so never discovered the amazingness of it all.
I have managed to secure Snarl and Swoop, still looking for a Grimlock.
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Re: The BEST Beast-based Transformers toy molds

Postby That Bot » Mon Oct 15, 2012 1:28 pm

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Oh shoot, I had multiple threads open at the same time and I posted in the wrong one. Sorry!

On the topic of Beast Bots: Beast Wars was my first TF series. It holds a special place in my heart, and the toys were super duper awesometastic. I don't see "animal legs as robot limbs" being a cardinal sin, nor do I see "beat head as robot hands" as a bad thing. Shellformers can be either/or, depends on how they're handled. Big Convoy, for example, is awesome despite being a shellformer. The fact that there's certain "common" modes of beast-to-robot transformation seems no different from the generally similar "front of car becomes chest, back of car becomes legs and feet, doors become arms" or vice-versa. There's plenty of stock transformations for vehicle-based Transformers as well, so as long as there's significant shuffling around of parts to make the robot look like more than just the beast stood on end, I'm cool with it, and I welcome Beast Hunters with open arms.
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Re: The BEST Beast-based Transformers toy molds

Postby Handels-Messerschmitt » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:36 pm

I can't say which is the best one, all in all, but I think that BW Razorclaw should be able to give anything a run for its money based on just how neat such a small, cheap figure is. He was either my second BW figure or joint first with Airazor (which is also outstanding but slightly less to my preferences). This is the sort of stuff you hook a kid on a toyline with.

http://www.tfu.info/1997/Predacon/Razor ... orclaw.htm

Neither of his decos are great because the orange and teal respectively clash with the rest but the sculpted detail is very good. The crab mode isn't the most exciting because, well, it's just a crab with oddly large hind legs. The transformation is simple but you still end up with an impressive-looking robot mode, especially when you take into account that his claws house two hidden weapons. The large one has serrated spikes that pop out when you pull a little lever and the small one has a silver-painted blaster. Of course, they're also fully usable in beast mode so I suppose that the crab can be a lot more exciting than first thought.

Basically, as a toy, this guy is amazing. Articulation, a truly excellent gimmick, no accessories to go missing and he's cheap. Too bad his colours are so-so. The video version is a little nicer but way more expensive. As a last note, the way his head works means that the beast mode has crab mouth gnashing action. That is attention to detail.


As for beast transformers in general, there is one thing that I think makes up for the awkward issues they can have: uniqueness. Basically, there are hundreds of car transformers. Even less common things like motorcycles, helicopters and tanks have dozens each. Beast modes are by contrast a lot more tied to a character. You have plenty of different characters that are some variety of plane but if you want a rat, an elephant or something odder like a squid or rabbit there is pretty much one character each for those. Finding a new kind of animal is admittedly a lot easier than new kinds of vehicles and there have also been far more vehicle transformers so it might not be an entirely fair point to make. It still adds a lot of novelty to beast modes, though, even ones that aren't done better than a high-quality standard Cliffjumper or whatever.
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Re: The BEST Beast-based Transformers toy molds

Postby AdamFett » Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:16 am

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Re: The BEST Beast-based Transformers toy molds

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Oct 19, 2012 8:52 am

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AdamFett wrote:Jungle Planet Megs......Freakin' sweet tyrannosaur beast mode....No visible robot mode kibble.....He my favorite toy hands down...
Save for his... um, let's say "unfortunate" placement of his key when inserted in Beast Mode. ;)
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Re: The BEST Beast-based Transformers toy molds

Postby Handels-Messerschmitt » Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:22 am

Sabrblade wrote:
AdamFett wrote:Jungle Planet Megs......Freakin' sweet tyrannosaur beast mode....No visible robot mode kibble.....He my favorite toy hands down...
Save for his... um, let's say "unfortunate" placement of his key when inserted in Beast Mode. ;)


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Re: The BEST Beast-based Transformers toy molds

Postby AdamFett » Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:34 am

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Lmao....put good tings in, get good tings out.....
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Re: The BEST Beast-based Transformers toy molds

Postby Valandar » Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:08 pm

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I dunno...

I normally don't like beast formers. The only ones I don't mind are ones where the beast mode doesn't even try to look organic. The G1 Insecticons and Dinobots, Energon Insecticon, and the like, for example. And if it uses the "Stand up on hind legs, flip head forward or back, stick tail in hand" transform scheme, it may as well be melted down into slag plastic for making new toys, IMHO.

Still, if I had to decide, the "best" beastformer is, without a doubt, Masterpiece Grimlock.
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Re: The BEST Beast-based Transformers toy molds

Postby xyl360 » Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:31 pm

Valandar wrote:The only ones I don't mind are ones where the beast mode doesn't even try to look organic. The G1 Insecticons and Dinobots, Energon Insecticon, and the like, for example. And if it uses the "Stand up on hind legs, flip head forward or back, stick tail in hand" transform scheme, it may as well be melted down into slag plastic for making new toys, IMHO.

Well, with the exception of the tail becoming a weapon, G1 Kickback transforms exactly like that. In fact, his insect legs even transform into his arms, something most more modern beast formers don't even do:
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Like I said way earlier in this thread, it's a natural decision in engineering a robot that transforms into an animal to do such things.

Guys like Kickback and Grimlock don't do a very good job of being 'robots in disguise' but they are definitely some cool toys.

I can definitely see why many hate/don't like organic looking alt modes though. It is a very big departure from the concept of a robot transforming into/being composed of mechanical parts.
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Re: The BEST Beast-based Transformers toy molds

Postby nickh » Fri Oct 19, 2012 8:03 pm

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xyl360 wrote:Guys like Kickback and Grimlock don't do a very good job of being 'robots in disguise' but they are definitely some cool toys.


That's quite true, but I think some people take the "Robots in Disguise" slogan a bit too far. If every TF *had* to be disguised when in alt mode, imagine how many fewer TFs we'd have!


xyl360 wrote:I can definitely see why many hate/don't like organic looking alt modes though. It is a very big departure from the concept of a robot transforming into/being composed of mechanical parts.


Sort of. Other than Beast Wars and Beast Machines, most of the Transformers that transform into an animal/insect/organism still look pretty mechanical.
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Re: The BEST Beast-based Transformers toy molds

Postby Duke of Luns » Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:54 am

xyl360 wrote:
Valandar wrote:The only ones I don't mind are ones where the beast mode doesn't even try to look organic. The G1 Insecticons and Dinobots, Energon Insecticon, and the like, for example. And if it uses the "Stand up on hind legs, flip head forward or back, stick tail in hand" transform scheme, it may as well be melted down into slag plastic for making new toys, IMHO.

Like I said way earlier in this thread, it's a natural decision in engineering a robot that transforms into an animal to do such things.


Agreed. I recently got Transmetal 2 Cheetor, and that's pretty much how he transforms. He's not great, but it's a solid figure and I like it. Another fave of mine, Energon Battle Ravage, transforms almost exactly the same way, but looks cool enough to pull it off. Same with Universe Frostbite. It might not be the most glamerous transformation, but it makes for a somewhat posable beast mode.
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Re: The BEST Beast-based Transformers toy molds

Postby Handels-Messerschmitt » Sat Oct 20, 2012 1:19 pm

Is there any beastformer that doesn't use the limbs for both modes or is any combination of a shellformer/partsformer? I guess maybe some of the old G1 ones might do it but they're really quite blocky so I suppose that's the price they pay.

There are two particular figures that spring to mind as brazen shellformers. They're the Japanese Beast Wars exclusives Dead End and Break who appropriately came in the same set.

I'll say that Dead End does actually pull it off. It looks fairly functional as shields go but above all his beast mode is one where the whole point of the creature is that it hides its body in a shell. So however the mechanics were done he'd be a shell transformer. Break, though... well... He's pretty neat for being one of the few who turn into a penguin.
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Re: The BEST Beast-based Transformers toy molds

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Oct 20, 2012 1:52 pm

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Handels-Messerschmitt wrote:Is there any beastformer that doesn't use the limbs for both modes or is any combination of a shellformer/partsformer?
Transmetal Tarantulas. Spider legs =/= robot limbs, no partsforming (his gun detaches from its beast mode store, though) and no obnosious shellforming (his beast abdomen is a shell, but it becomes his robot abdomen just the same, staying out of he way in both modes). ;)

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Re: The BEST Beast-based Transformers toy molds

Postby Valandar » Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:32 pm

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Energon Insecticon does a good job of not having a "normal" transform, though his articulation is exceptionally poor, especially for an Energon Basic.
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