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In the wake of the recent Magnaboss discussion...

What's the best combiner?

What do we think is important? Kibble of the individuals or the combined form? Are all the parts used? Are individual robots important?

Personally I think Landfill does a great job at this. He uses all the parts and on top of that, he can be customized to your own liking. Railracer always makes an impression, uses minimal robots and looks soooo good combined.

Bombs away!

Under rated G1 Defensor. Stable as a brick!

The best combiner ever should have components who all have their own robot modes.
It should be completely free of 'spare parts' which sit aside whenever the team is in individual robot or vehicle mode. Only weapons get a pass and even then, they should peg to or inside the alt modes.
It should also comprise at least three members, just two don't make a combiner.

That said, Scramble City combiners, Micromasters, Power Core Combiners, Energon Powerlinx partners and Supreme movie Devastator should be disqualified by default.

That leaves BW Tripredacus and Magnaboss, RID Landfill and Rail Racer, the three Energon Maximus guys, RotF Legends Devastator and the upcoming FOC Bruticus. And of course at least two 3rd party not-Devastators

Well, I have different standards for different eras. As I don't have that many yet, despite my total love for them, my choices in favourites are limited. Anyway:

Generation 1
- Defensor
- Bruticus (Encore)
- Piranacon

In this case Piranacon is a solid winner based on looks alone. All members share the same color scheme, so the combined form actually look cohesive. The fact the limbs can transform into guns doesn't hurt either.

Beast Wars
- BWII Mangaboss
- BWII Tripledacus

Draw, because each has a distinct style that works. Magnaboss may be fiddly to transform, plus the eagle can suffer from GPS (though he *is* fairly stable), on the flipside Tripledacus/Tripredacus has no hands. I think they balance eachother out with their good and bad points.

RiD
- Rail Racer
- Omega Prime (yes, he counts as a separate entity, so he qualifies)

I don't have any version of Landfill so I can't comment on him. That said, Rail Racer scores points for being stylish, down to earth and above all, has no obtrusive gimmicks. Omega Prime just looks big, but can barely pose due to his top-heavy body. Rail Racer is an easy winner here, but if I had Landfill to consider, things would have been different.

Unicron Trilogy
- Armada Perceptor
- Energon Perceptor
- Energon Superion Maximus

Hate to say it, with such contenders the Mini-Con combiner stands a decent chance. Superion Maximus loses points due to Storm Jet's body being unable to stay pegged in, plus the hands issue. On the bright side, he suffers the least from the "two of the same limb" problem, because all members are jets and not distinct vehicles.

@ Rushie

It doesn't make sense by your own standards.

Why disqualify the G1 combiners?

1.Constructicons have each of their own "super vehicle modes"
2.Stunticons have those plasma canons on their butts.
3.Protectobots have a similar feature
4.Micromaster combiners' kibble turns into a sort of mini jet
5.Landcross' has some balance issues but is like a 1000 and 1 combiner package
6.Combaticons' don't have kibbles(the Baldigus mold anyway)
7.All have individual robot modes aside from being a part.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Well, I have different standards for different eras. As I don't have that many yet, despite my total love for them, my choices in favourites are limited. Anyway:

Generation 1
- Defensor
- Bruticus (Encore)
- Piranacon

In this case Piranacon is a solid winner based on looks alone. All members share the same color scheme, so the combined form actually look cohesive. The fact the limbs can transform into guns doesn't hurt either.

Beast Wars
- BWII Mangaboss
- BWII Tripledacus

Draw, because each has a distinct style that works. Magnaboss may be fiddly to transform, plus the eagle can suffer from GPS (though he *is* fairly stable), on the flipside Tripledacus/Tripredacus has no hands. I think they balance eachother out with their good and bad points.

RiD
- Rail Racer
- Omega Prime (yes, he counts as a separate entity, so he qualifies)

I don't have any version of Landfill so I can't comment on him. That said, Rail Racer scores points for being stylish, down to earth and above all, has no obtrusive gimmicks. Omega Prime just looks big, but can barely pose due to his top-heavy body. Rail Racer is an easy winner here, but if I had Landfill to consider, things would have been different.

Unicron Trilogy
- Armada Perceptor
- Energon Perceptor
- Energon Superion Maximus

Hate to say it, with such contenders the Mini-Con combiner stands a decent chance. Superion Maximus loses points due to Storm Jet's body being unable to stay pegged in, plus the hands issue. On the bright side, he suffers the least from the "two of the same limb" problem, because all members are jets and not distinct vehicles.

Excuse the uberquote.

Is encore Bruticus different from G1? Is it based on Baldigus (weaponwise)?

Plus I'd say Omega Prime counts. He loses points on Magnus, though.

Yup, Encore Bruticus uses the RiD Ruination version of the mold, which includes the (canonised) combining weapons, filled in backpack guns and shorter rifle for Onslaught. However, Onslaught suffered the most from mold deterioration.

G1 Menasor and Masterforce God Ginrai are my favorites.

Cyberstrike wrote:G1 Menasor and Masterforce God Ginrai are my favorites.

Optimus combinations (and the likes thereof) are mostly very good. God Ginrai is almost universally loved by GEEWUNNERS and a personal favorite of mine. The combination of that guy is great and the amount of playvalue in that set is unrivalled.

However... Godbomber as a robot is... Derp.

Simply put...