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Re: The best combiner

Postby Rushie » Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:34 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:@ Rushie

It doesn't make sense by your own standards.

Why disqualify the G1 combiners?

1.Constructicons have each of their own "super vehicle modes"
2.Stunticons have those plasma canons on their butts.
3.Protectobots have a similar feature
4.Micromaster combiners' kibble turns into a sort of mini jet
5.Landcross' has some balance issues but is like a 1000 and 1 combiner package
6.Combaticons' don't have kibbles(the Baldigus mold anyway)
7.All have individual robot modes aside from being a part.


Most combiner teams you mentioned have the ability to place their weapon on the vehicle mode. Okay fair enough, but what about the foot pieces, fists, combiner head and chestplate? That's the kibble you're left with and although some teams try to find a use for these pieces, like Devastator and Hot Spot, they never look convincing. It's still a crotch or a fist on top of a truck. Especially Micromaster Sixtrain / Rail Racer comes to mind, with those kibble pieces drug around or slapped on top of the trains.

The Micromaster Sixwing gun combined into a jet is kinda neat. But it seems more like a fluke that they stumbled upon, found neat and kept in.

Yes, you can peg all parts in, but I'd rather leave them off, because they actually detract from the alt mode.

It sounds like I'm needlessly harsh on these oldies, but the topic is about the best combiner. With so many parts lying around, the 80's gestalts are IMO not the best combiners. They're still very cool combiners of course, but design-wise integrated combiners like the RID ones are better.
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Re: The best combiner

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:44 pm

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Rushie wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:@ Rushie

It doesn't make sense by your own standards.

Why disqualify the G1 combiners?

1.Constructicons have each of their own "super vehicle modes"
2.Stunticons have those plasma canons on their butts.
3.Protectobots have a similar feature
4.Micromaster combiners' kibble turns into a sort of mini jet
5.Landcross' has some balance issues but is like a 1000 and 1 combiner package
6.Combaticons' don't have kibbles(the Baldigus mold anyway)
7.All have individual robot modes aside from being a part.


Most combiner teams you mentioned have the ability to place their weapon on the vehicle mode. Okay fair enough, but what about the foot pieces, fists, combiner head and chestplate? That's the kibble you're left with and although some teams try to find a use for these pieces, like Devastator and Hot Spot, they never look convincing. It's still a crotch or a fist on top of a truck. Especially Micromaster Sixtrain / Rail Racer comes to mind, with those kibble pieces drug around or slapped on top of the trains.

The Micromaster Sixwing gun combined into a jet is kinda neat. But it seems more like a fluke that they stumbled upon, found neat and kept in.

Yes, you can peg all parts in, but I'd rather leave them off, because they actually detract from the alt mode.

It sounds like I'm needlessly harsh on these oldies, but the topic is about the best combiner. With so many parts lying around, the 80's gestalts are IMO not the best combiners. They're still very cool combiners of course, but design-wise integrated combiners like the RID ones are better.


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Re: The best combiner

Postby Screamfleet » Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:45 pm

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I don't own it, but Liokaiser comes to mind. It's just a great improvement on the previous types of combiners.
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Re: The best combiner

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:16 pm

You know, FP's add ons for Energon Bruticus are great BECAUSE of extra parts. And, while the weapons might have been integrated well on paper for the Energon combiners, the end result left a lot to be desired. Hardly what I'd think of as "the best".

So, in regards to the early ones, I say: if it helps the overall look, extra robot bits shouldn't be held against them. It's a nice bonus when there's absolutely no extra parts needed to make a combiner, but the alternatives in TF land tend to be terrible. Most of the time you wind up with misshapen claw hands.
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Re: The best combiner

Postby norwichchris » Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:17 pm

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Define best combiner??
The G1 series all where very blocky and bulky and did have "kibble" but what where supposed to do with all the parts?

The best combiners to date are:
Fansproject Bruticus/collossus add on
TFC Hercules/Devastator

Both are the best combiners ever made in history and have super poseability once I get a good Job i will pledge to but TFC Hercules.

The newer series had weapons that merged but honestly made the figures look disturbing like scarecrow such as the Bruticus maximus figure.
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Re: The best combiner

Postby MightyMagnus78 » Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:28 pm

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Re: The best combiner

Postby DrLegend » Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:33 pm

I think you can guess who I'm going to pick but given the level of popularity, participation in the live action films, and support from 3rd party companies, I'm not alone.
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Re: The best combiner

Postby Andrius » Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:10 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Irony, thy name is Puzzler


Ha! True. Also outside of Transformers canon, you have these guys:

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And I have a soft spot for the SHSSS combiners, although they don't quite fit the standard TF gestalt criteria:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gargunkle/3419410528/
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Re: The best combiner

Postby Mkall » Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:17 pm

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Andrius wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Irony, thy name is Puzzler


And I have a soft spot for the SHSSS combiners, although they don't quite fit the standard TF gestalt criteria:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gargunkle/3419410528/

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Re: The best combiner

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:19 pm

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Funny you should mention GaoGaiGar's ChouRyuJin (left) and GekiRyuJin (right). All Yuusha (Brave) series robots are pretty much self-contained, despite some of them having so many parts they're more like puzzlefomers. I should post pics of my Big Volfogg :P
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