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Postby Matrix. » Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:51 pm

I think the baddies are the Sontarans, looking at the series 3 trailer.

... which implies they're now Rhino people, which makes me sad. :( If the two are the same, however. Might not be.

It's also not impossible to bring back the master- the Doctor brought him back during the time war , and implanted him into a robotic body as a companion. This is the Richard E. Grant series, mind you, which has been retconned. (And it's not known if it WAS the time war, but it's implied in his profile)
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Postby Phaze » Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:55 pm

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Last rumour i heard about the new series of the Dr was that everyones favourite giant fire extinguishers are coming back.

*edit* also i'm looking forward to how the new companion Dr chemistry works mind you she did play a character who died in one of the final episodes of series two before getting the new companion role.
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Postby Matrix. » Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:00 pm

Phaze wrote:Last rumour i heard about the new series of the Dr was that everyones favourite giant fire extinguishers are coming back.


Eh?
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Postby Phaze » Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:03 pm

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Matrix. wrote:
Phaze wrote:Last rumour i heard about the new series of the Dr was that everyones favourite giant fire extinguishers are coming back.


Eh?

its a reference from the days when the darleks main weapons where CO2 fire extinguishers in the Peter Cuishing DR Who Movies
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Postby Cyber Bishop » Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:37 pm

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Matrix. wrote:... which implies they're now Rhino people, which makes me sad. :( If the two are the same, however. Might not be.


The rhino guys are The Judoon.

And there are serious rumors that the master is returning.

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Postby Burn » Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:56 pm

Phaze wrote:
Matrix. wrote:
Phaze wrote:Last rumour i heard about the new series of the Dr was that everyones favourite giant fire extinguishers are coming back.


Eh?

its a reference from the days when the darleks main weapons where CO2 fire extinguishers in the Peter Cuishing DR Who Movies


You obviously didn't watch the preview for season 3 at the end of Runaway Bride did you?

It ended with nothing but the Dalek "heart beat" and Sec (oh it's so nice to be able to refer to a Dalek by name other than Davros) staring into the camera.
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Postby Darth Bombshell » Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:39 pm

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Burn wrote:You obviously didn't watch the preview for season 3 at the end of Runaway Bride did you?

It ended with nothing but the Dalek "heart beat" and Sec (oh it's so nice to be able to refer to a Dalek by name other than Davros) staring into the camera.


At which point I'm sure everyone was saying "enough with the Daleks already!"

Don't get me wrong, I know they're popular and all, but the fact that both they and the Time Lords wiped each other out starts to lose meaning when you realize that the Daleks have made four appearances in the show, and are going for Round Five very soon.

Of course, with the rumors that the Master is coming back, maybe the Time Lords aren't all dead, after all.
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Postby Phaze » Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:54 pm

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Burn wrote:
Phaze wrote:
Matrix. wrote:
Phaze wrote:Last rumour i heard about the new series of the Dr was that everyones favourite giant fire extinguishers are coming back.


Eh?

its a reference from the days when the darleks main weapons where CO2 fire extinguishers in the Peter Cuishing DR Who Movies


You obviously didn't watch the preview for season 3 at the end of Runaway Bride did you?

It ended with nothing but the Dalek "heart beat" and Sec (oh it's so nice to be able to refer to a Dalek by name other than Davros) staring into the camera.
Yeah i did i was kinda hoping that the Darleks had finally buggered off after the season 2 ending.

it would be a twist to have the Time lords still alive inside a Life pod much like the darleks prison. as for the master was he the bad guy in the late 90's tv movie (i have a bad memory for the bad guys)
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Postby Darth Bombshell » Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:09 pm

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Phaze wrote:as for the master was he the bad guy in the late 90's tv movie (i have a bad memory for the bad guys)


Yes. He was also a villain in the original series, played by Roger Delgado (with Pertwee), by Peter Pratt (in Tom Baker's story "The Deadly Assassin"), by Geoffrey Beevers (in Baker's story "The Keeper of Traken") and by Anthony Ainley (from "Logopolis" onwards.)
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Postby Burn » Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:21 pm

mmm Roger Delgado and Anthony Ainley. They were both great in the role of The Master.

Looking at a pic of this new guy, and recalling the mess that Eric Roberts did in the movie, I would hope at least the new guy grows a goatee.

Of course i'd still prefer Anthony Stewart Head to get the job, but they used him up as Mr Finch.

Bringing The Master back though ... should be interesting to see how they do it. Given that he's out of regenerations and was sucked into the Eye of Harmony in the movie.

As for The Daleks, I certaintly didn't say "enough with the Daleks already!". Probably because i'm really excited that after all these years we have this new breed of Dalek in Sec and the Cult of Skaro. It's always been about the mindless drones bossed around by Davros or the Emperor Dalek. But now there's Sec who's very much his own Dalek and more of a threat than any Dalek in the last 40 years. So I am looking forward to the Dalek episode(s) but I do hope they (or just Sec) take the centre stage in the season finale like they have the last two seasons.
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Postby Cyber Bishop » Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:43 pm

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One of the things I read on OG was Face of Boe meets the Doctor again he will say 4 words that will change his life..
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Postby Darth Bombshell » Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:51 pm

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Cyber Bishop wrote:One of the things I read on OG was Face of Boe meets the Doctor again he will say 4 words that will change his life..


Yup. That's true. And since he made an appearance in the Series Three trailer, that'll be happening soon.
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Postby Burn » Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:56 pm

"You are not alone"

Or would that be too obvious and tacky?
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Postby Cyber Bishop » Tue Feb 13, 2007 6:03 pm

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Burn wrote:"You are not alone"

Or would that be too obvious and tacky?


Too obvious BUT it could make for a interesting story of him wanting to track down the other time lords..

Of course he could also say

"The master is alive"
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Postby Matrix. » Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:17 pm

Phaze wrote:
Matrix. wrote:
Phaze wrote:Last rumour i heard about the new series of the Dr was that everyones favourite giant fire extinguishers are coming back.


Eh?

its a reference from the days when the darleks main weapons where CO2 fire extinguishers in the Peter Cuishing DR Who Movies


Oh, right. Sorry, all my social groups refer to it as 'EvilSteam'.
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Postby Burn » Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:11 pm

Cyber Bishop wrote:Of course he could also say

"The master is alive"


Yeah I thought of that too but figured it wouldn't have an emotional impact like "You are not alone"
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Postby DARKAGEIS » Wed Feb 14, 2007 2:44 am

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Burn wrote:
Cyber Bishop wrote:Of course he could also say

"The master is alive"


Yeah I thought of that too but figured it wouldn't have an emotional impact like "You are not alone"


could be "dont eat the fish" the doc then spends the rest of his lives not eating fish since the face of boe didnt tell him which fish..... scary huh? lol

seriously though i like the idea of "you are not alone" put it in early in the series and put the master un late and that could be the "badwolf/torchwood of s.3. the thing that keeps getting nodded at/mentioned all series but isnt revealed to the very end.

on a side note i could do with some help as this has been bugging me for some time now.
was the emperor dalek davros?
i know there is/was a seperate modified dalek which was the emperor dalek, but in rememberance of the daleks (on a side note if you havent seen this story you should check it out, if only for "unlimited rice pudding!") davros has made himself the new emperor and you can clearly see his eascape pod going before the hand of omega hits his ship. so help me! has anybody any ideas or links that might help sooth my soul?
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Postby Burn » Wed Feb 14, 2007 4:48 am

Davros was essentially given up for dead then this new Dalek Emperor appeared and ressurrected the "threat" of The Daleks.

I don't think it was his first story appearance but it didn't take long for the top to fold back to reveal Davros encased in the Dalek Emperor body. What i'm not sure about is whether Davros was fully in control of his own mind or if the Daleks had brainwashed him to lead them.

The Dalek Emperor in the new series though as far as I know is NOT Davros but really just this big super Dalek who screeches a lot.
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Postby Cyber Bishop » Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:14 am

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Burn wrote:Davros was essentially given up for dead then this new Dalek Emperor appeared and ressurrected the "threat" of The Daleks.

I don't think it was his first story appearance but it didn't take long for the top to fold back to reveal Davros encased in the Dalek Emperor body. What i'm not sure about is whether Davros was fully in control of his own mind or if the Daleks had brainwashed him to lead them.

The Dalek Emperor in the new series though as far as I know is NOT Davros but really just this big super Dalek who screeches a lot.


Dalek mutant floating in tank of fluid connected to that giant Dalek shell, and was not Davros. Davros's status at this point is unknown so who knows, he could pop up again.
And if they want him to be a suprise I don't think they would put him or the Master in the season 3 preview at the end of Runaway Bride.
You knew Sek was alive since he did a temporal shift at the end of doomsday.
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Postby Burn » Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:42 am

I would hope that Davros doesn't pop up. We've got Sek now and quite frankly, with him around Daleks are finally a little bit terrifying.
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Postby Cyber Bishop » Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:13 am

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Burn wrote:I would hope that Davros doesn't pop up. We've got Sek now and quite frankly, with him around Daleks are finally a little bit terrifying.


Agreed, I like the Sek character and what he brings to the table.
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Postby DARKAGEIS » Wed Feb 14, 2007 1:23 pm

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Burn wrote:I would hope that Davros doesn't pop up. We've got Sek now and quite frankly, with him around Daleks are finally a little bit terrifying.


Agreed, I like the Sek character and what he brings to the table.


see im a little unsure, davros is a nice developed charcter so theres a lot of history to play with, but i suppose wit sek you have a whole new charcter to play with.

oh i cant decide!!!

on a side note a revamped davros would be cool.
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Postby Burn » Wed Feb 14, 2007 2:41 pm

Making Davros into a Dalek killed the character in my eyes.

Of course a show down between Davros and Sek could be a good thing ...
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Postby Cyber Bishop » Wed Feb 14, 2007 2:48 pm

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Burn wrote:Making Davros into a Dalek killed the character in my eyes.

Of course a show down between Davros and Sek could be a good thing ...


I thought Davros whereabouts were unknown..

Him vs Sek would be something interesting to see.
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Postby Burn » Wed Feb 14, 2007 3:14 pm

May be unknown, he in fact should be dead unless he was still enough Kaled to be spared from being wiped out by Rose.
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