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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Burn » Tue Dec 25, 2012 3:17 pm

Loved the Christmas special!

After a couple of years of being very disappointed with Dr Who, I'm now hopeful of things picking up.

The promise of a new intro intrigued me with the theme supposedly more reminiscent of classic DW. I thought otherwise. BUT ... they threw The Doctor's face in which was a classic thing!

Also loving the look of the new Tardis. It's what I'm use to, gives it a more classic but updated look.

Jenna Louise Coleman ... well, we got our answer of how she's connected to the character she portrayed in her first appearance, they're one and the same. But how? Well that's going to be the big mystery for next year (Rani? Romana? Another Time Lord scattered across time?)

But Jenna herself ... absolutely love her! Hopefully it doesn't turn into another companion-falls-in-love-with-The-Doctor thing but she's certainly the cutest companion!

So Moffat, you've played your card, let's see if you can keep it up and redeem the last few years.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

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Haven't watched the special yet, but I have checked out its wiki entry in preparation, and...

Well, let's just say that when the title was announced, I had a feeling that it involved a classic Who monster. Turns out I was half right.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

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They did something akin to Clara in the Fourth Doctor serial 'City of Death', where an alien was scattered through time. I wonder...
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Stuartmaximus » Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:25 pm

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you probably already know this but Dr Who is back on BBC1 at easter 30th March
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Burn » Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:26 am

First Doctor re-cast

Only for the 50th Anniversary documentary. Here's hoping it leads to an actual episode appearance.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Stuartmaximus » Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:14 am

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oh it's yooooou! first you're threatening to have me evicted on another thread! now you're providing me with information!

anyways.....back to the topic in hand......

oh right! I thought that the actual series was continuing then? so one wonders when the series will start back up again
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Burn » Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:00 pm

Stuartmaximus wrote:first you're threatening to have me evicted on another thread!


I did no such thing. I asked you to stop necrobumping long dead threads with pointless posts.

anyways.....back to the topic in hand......

I thought that the actual series was continuing then? so one wonders when the series will start back up again


Easter, as you said.

This is a documentary on how Doctor Who got started. It will be broadcast in November to tie-in with the 50th Anniversary. A lot of fans are hoping and speculating that there will also be a story that ties in with he current series that sees all 11 Doctors come together. Just need to re-cast the first three (well, two and three now)
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Stuartmaximus » Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:37 pm

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Burn wrote:
Stuartmaximus wrote:first you're threatening to have me evicted on another thread!


I did no such thing. I asked you to stop necrobumping long dead threads with pointless posts.

anyways.....back to the topic in hand......

I thought that the actual series was continuing then? so one wonders when the series will start back up again


Easter, as you said.

This is a documentary on how Doctor Who got started. It will be broadcast in November to tie-in with the 50th Anniversary. A lot of fans are hoping and speculating that there will also be a story that ties in with he current series that sees all 11 Doctors come together. Just need to re-cast the first three (well, two and three now)



necrobumping! lol, never heard it called that before, it's usually called spamming, but ok

ah ok, well....canny wait til easter. November! that's a while away til then, pity it wasn't sooner
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Burn » Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:45 pm

Then knock off you're **** spamming.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Stuartmaximus » Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:56 am

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well before end of March, Comic Relief is on March 15th, so there's bound to be a Dr Who minisode, then.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Cyber Bishop » Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:13 pm

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Stuartmaximus wrote:
necrobumping! lol, never heard it called that before, it's usually called spamming, but ok

ah ok, well....canny wait til easter. November! that's a while away til then, pity it wasn't sooner


Necrobumping is bringing a thread that has moved past relevance (last post months ago, was 3 pages back, etc..), spamming is when you post to

1) pad your post count
2) sell your items like a spambot
3) post jibberish with no real relevance
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Shadowman » Sat May 18, 2013 7:04 pm

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And, as the episode has aired, I can now confirm that the Doctor's name is Not spoken aloud in the episode.

Also John Hurt as the Doctor. Someone explain that to me because my mind is blown.

I do like that the episode is "How many references can we cram into 45 minutes," though.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Cyber Bishop » Sat May 18, 2013 9:04 pm

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Shadowman wrote:And, as the episode has aired, I can now confirm that the Doctor's name is Not spoken aloud in the episode.

Also John Hurt as the Doctor. Someone explain that to me because my mind is blown.

I do like that the episode is "How many references can we cram into 45 minutes," though.



I don't honestly know what to say... I really don't....

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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Burn » Sun May 19, 2013 12:46 am

He's the "forgotten" Doctor. The one that Paul McGann regenerated into and the one that fought in the Time War, and the one that regenerated into Christopher Eccelston thus pushing Eccelston, Tennant and Smith down the line.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Shadowman » Sun May 19, 2013 1:20 am

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Burn wrote:He's the "forgotten" Doctor. The one that Paul McGann regenerated into and the one that fought in the Time War, and the one that regenerated into Christopher Eccelston thus pushing Eccelston, Tennant and Smith down the line.


Except he committed some horrible atrocity that caused him to no longer qualify as the Doctor, and was more or less "disowned" by the other regenerations. So Matt Smith is still the Eleventh Doctor by virtue of John Hurt's Doctor--I am now naming him the Un-Doctor--having title revoked.

...I think. Honestly it's all up in the air until Moffat tells us what the hell just happened.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Burn » Sun May 19, 2013 1:59 am

Still the same body, still used up a regeneration.

But of course, it was reported by The Sun so who knows how accurate that is.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Shadowman » Sun May 19, 2013 3:18 am

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Burn wrote:Still the same body, still used up a regeneration.

But of course, it was reported by The Sun so who knows how accurate that is.


And that means when Matt Smith hangs up his bow-tie, they're going to have to wring as much as they can out of the next guy, or conveniently forget the whole 13-renegeration limit.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Burn » Sun May 19, 2013 4:27 am

There was a comment made in an episode of The Sarah Jane Adventures that did negate the 12 regeneration limit.

However at some point, he dies for good.

The Great Intelligence also mentioned that The Doctor is known by other names, one of which being The Valeyard who The Doctor is suppose to become on his final regeneration.

Watched the episode twice now, and one thing I really really want is a Strax/Vestara/Jenny spin-off show. At the very least, more Strax.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Cyber Bishop » Sun May 19, 2013 7:15 am

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Wow, that is a twist.. I was thinking after I watched it again that maybe somehow he was an older version of McGann's doctor, not one that he regenerated into.. Of course that news the Sun is reporting could be how it is being thrown out there just to throw us off..
If he was forgotten then why all the talk about the time war and what he did in it??? That part does not make any sense to me.. The Doctor has clearly stated on


http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Last_Great_Time_War
I know this is a fan site and it has the eighth Doctor named.. This is gong to be a lot of issues and facts to rewrite now.

After reading this article below I can see how they possibly could work more regenerations in now (bolded red part).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_War_%28Doctor_Who%29

As the war progressed the Time Lords became increasingly aggressive and unscrupulous. At one point, they resurrected the Master, renegade Time Lord and nemesis to the Doctor, as they believed him to be the "perfect warrior for a time war". It's implied that they gave him a full new set of regenerations as was done to all Time Lords fighting in the war, and that the Eye of Harmony could be used as a means to gain more regenerations. However, after the Dalek Emperor gained control of the Cruciform, the Master deserted his post, used the chameleon arch to disguise himself as a human and escaped to a time period shortly before the end of the universe. Genetically a human, he escaped the destruction of all Time Lords as well as detection by the Doctor – who was unaware of his resurrection in the first place. The Master also remained ignorant of the latter phase and outcome of the war until told by the Doctor many years later.[9]


And this..

Eighth Doctor Adventures

In a story arc stretching through several of the Eighth Doctor Adventures, sometime in the Doctor's future, a war is fought between the Time Lords and an unnamed Enemy, the Eighth Doctor becoming involved in the events of the war during the events of Alien Bodies, when he unintentionally becomes involved in an auction for the body of his future self due to his biodata codes being the only means of accessing dangerous Time Lord secrets, and The Taking of Planet 5, where he must stop a group of future Time Lords from releasing the monstrous Fendahl in an attempt to use it as a weapon. In this story arc, Gallifrey is also destroyed as a result of the Eighth Doctor attempting to prevent the war from beginning as the Enemy begin their first assault in- having learned that he unintentionally provoked the War-, believing that it would be better for the Time Lords to die now rather than experience a war that would dehumanise them to the point of becoming monsters which all evidence suggests they could not win (The Ancestor Cell, 2000). This cataclysm also creates an event horizon in time that prevents anyone from entering Gallifrey's relative past or travelling from it to the present or future. The last Eighth Doctor Adventures novel, The Gallifrey Chronicles, establishes that the Doctor has the ability to restore the planet and its inhabitants, having downloaded the contents of the Matrix into his subconscious mind in the minutes before Gallifrey's destruction, albeit at the cost of his own memories. The novel ends without revealing if he does indeed do this.

Russell T Davies, executive producer of the series, commented that there is no connection between the War of the books and the Time War of the television series, comparing Gallifrey being destroyed twice with Earth's two World Wars. He also said that he was "usually happy for old and new fans to invent the Complete History of the Doctor in their heads, completely free of the production team's hot and heavy hands".

Despite this unequivocal statement, writer Lance Parkin speculated in an essay that the two destructions of Gallifrey may be the same event seen from two different perspectives, with the Eighth Doctor present twice (and both times responsible for the planet's destruction). This is supported due to the novels' destruction of Gallifrey involving an evil future version of the Eighth Doctor as the leader of the invading force, with the events leading to Gallifrey's destruction being triggered by the Doctor's attempt to prevent that future from coming to pass.

Another version of the Eighth Doctor Adventures' War, referred to as the "War in Heaven", also appears in the Faction Paradox novels conceived by Lawrence Miles.



Of course the easiest way to fix this is to use the Doctor's "secrets" angle..
But then it still does not make sense as he has stated multiple times since Eccleson that he ended the time war, so that cannot be the act which made John Hurt the "forgotten" Doctor.
It has to be something else.


Also the talk of 12 regenerations, I am willing to bet that when that was put in there the writers did not realize or think that the show would still be going strong some 50 years later..
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Postby Lunatyk » Sun May 19, 2013 10:46 am

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didn't River, at some point, give The Doctor all of her remaining regenerations?
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Burn » Sun May 19, 2013 2:08 pm

River had regenerations?

CB - Thing to remember though is the books are very much their own continuity even though we've seen hints from RTD and Moffatt of borrowing concepts from them.

It wouldn't surprise me if John Hurt turns out to be The Valeyard as the books have the Sixth Doctor struggling to come to terms that it's his destiny to become The Valeyard and has given in and done an Anakin.

So it's possible that he became The Valeyard during the Time War. His regenerations after that remember what he did but choose to not recognise him as The Doctor, but rather The Valeyard, but they are still the same person regardless.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Shadowman » Sun May 19, 2013 2:38 pm

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Burn wrote:Watched the episode twice now, and one thing I really really want is a Strax/Vestara/Jenny spin-off show. At the very least, more Strax.


Yes. I've been dying for that since Demon's Run. And that was before Strax joined them properly.

Burn wrote:River had regenerations?


Yeah, we've seen her regenerate twice so far. (Melody to Mel, then Mel to River)
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Postby Burn » Sun May 19, 2013 2:42 pm

Yeah I remembered while making breakfast. Goes to show how much attention I've paid to that character.
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