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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Burn » Sun Jun 02, 2013 3:25 pm

So I was thinking who could make for a good replacement. And one name popped into my mind.

Rupert Grint, Ronald Weasley from Harry Potter, and ... a ginger.

The Doctor could finally get his wish of being a ginger.

Turns out as well, he's already one of the favourites.

(Though I do like the idea of Martin Freeman)
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Lorekeeper » Tue Jun 04, 2013 6:58 am

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Grint was by far the weakest actor in the Harry Potter core cast. I could not see him carrying Doctor Who anywhere but the waste basket. He would be a worse disaster than Colin Baker (even though Baker2, pretty much the universal low point for the franchise, grew on me over time.) I would be intrigued by Watson, though.

Truly, I would like to see an older actor back in the role. Smith seemed to exchange gravitas for melodrama. I'd also like to see an actor back away from the mania a bit. A halfway decent actor with the right instincts will go far... so long as the writing improves. My love for Who is turning to unease with the push towards Michael Bay-style pandering.

If you could put restrictions or commands on a season/series of Doctor Who, what would you dictate?

I would love to see 15-episode seasons/series, that number including a Christmas Special and a 2-parter. I would encourage 1 "doctorless" episode per season, focusing on the tertiary cast or the "mortal world," to give us a sense of the reality the Doctor exits within and how he impacts it. I would restrict the appearance of Daleks, Cybermen, and the Master. I would revisit one alien race from old Who not yet used in new Who, without killing them off.
Companions would need special script scrutiny. They should have developed back-stories and development made available to series writers. (Clara seemed like she had multiple personalities and shallow development.) No more companion-Doctor romances for at least 3 years. No more Doctor romances at all for at least 3 years. He (she?) should be sexy, but not sexual.
The big thing I'd like to see is more Timelord development. I've always loved those demigods in awful hats. Even if it's mostly flashback, give me some campy glitter mantles and skullcaps. Make them villains, make them fascists, make them time-liches, but get them back.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby MagnusPrimal » Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:41 pm

I really don't get the Colin Baker hate. Yeah, a lot of his stories were crap, but his performances were great. Loved his pompous and arrogant take on the character.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Burn » Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:45 am

For me, when I originally watched Colin Baker, he'd ruined Dr Who.

Tom Baker was my Doctor, so obviously I was upset when he left. Peter Davidson did an okay job. But then Colin Baker comes blundering in. And not long after he's replaced with Sylvester McCoy who was much better than Colin Baker.

What I didn't know back then, and really only found out a few years ago, was the behind the scenes stuff. BBC wanted changes, new writers came on board, CB basically had to work with these changes.

So a lot of the "hate" probably comes from that, a lot of people didn't know what was going on behind the scenes and subsequently directed their dissatisfaction towards the public face at the time.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

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Yeah, Baker was my doctor as well. I did like Davidson and lost track when Colin took over. I did watch and enjoy Mccoy's doctor though.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby MagnusPrimal » Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:42 pm

Heck, I like all the Doctors. Davison is my least favorite, and I don't even dislike him.
I've got most of Colin's episodes on DVD, but a lot of McCoy's are getting expensive to pick up. I hope they release a Special Edition of Battlefield, Ghost Light, and The Curse of Fenric sometime in the near future.
Still working on the rest of the collection as well. I have all of Troughton's that have been released, and I'm plugging away on the Tom Baker and Jon Pertwee years.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby prowl123 » Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:46 pm

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I just got into this show a few weeks ago and I have to say it's my favorite show ever. I won't lie, I bawled my eyes out when Rose left.

Although I haven't reached Matt Smith yet, I'd say that the 12th Doctor definitely needs to be ginger. Rupert Grint is a good choice but we don't really know much about whether or not he can play the befuddled role since all we've seen of him is Ron Weasley.

I would love to see Martin Freeman as the Doctor to be honest.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Burn » Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:13 am

New Doctor to be revealed in live special this Sunday

Interesting line by SM ...

"For the last of the Time Lords, the clock is striking twelve."
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Blast Cannon » Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:49 pm

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Peter Cipaldi has just been announced as the new Doctor Who.

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Fans should recognise him as he has already appeared in Who before, in 'Fires of Pompeii'.

A fantastic choice, in my opinion. Very versatile actor and has pulled off some great roles on television in the past. He has the qualities that an actor needs in playing the Doctor: intensity, presence, mystery and that capacity to be extremely silly.. Plus he swears like a trooper.

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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Burn » Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:37 pm

Good to see they're going with someone a little older too.

I also think he looks a little like Peter Cushing.

And damn Peter Davison still looks good. He needs to come back for a more extended role than that Time Crash story a few years back.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby prowl123 » Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:43 pm

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I only know Cushing from WWZ. Hopefully he dies a good job. His take on the role will certainly be unique.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Burn » Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:47 pm

prowl123 wrote:I only know Cushing from WWZ. Hopefully he dies a good job. His take on the role will certainly be unique.


If you're going to know Cushing from anywhere it will be as Grand Moff Tarkin from Star Wars. Unless he was actually one of the zombies I doubt you'll remember him from WWZ. Image
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Blast Cannon » Sun Aug 04, 2013 6:22 pm

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Funnily enough, Cipaldi is credited as'W.H.O Doctor' in World War Z.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby njb902 » Sun Aug 04, 2013 6:34 pm

Burn wrote:
prowl123 wrote:I only know Cushing from WWZ. Hopefully he dies a good job. His take on the role will certainly be unique.


If you're going to know Cushing from anywhere it will be as Grand Moff Tarkin from Star Wars. Unless he was actually one of the zombies I doubt you'll remember him from WWZ. Image


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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby prowl123 » Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:26 pm

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Burn wrote:
prowl123 wrote:I only know Cushing from WWZ. Hopefully he dies a good job. His take on the role will certainly be unique.


If you're going to know Cushing from anywhere it will be as Grand Moff Tarkin from Star Wars. Unless he was actually one of the zombies I doubt you'll remember him from WWZ. Image

Damn it, I have no clue why I typed Cushing. I meant to type Cipaldi >.<
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Blast Cannon » Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:51 pm

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Nine missing episodes of 1960s Doctor Who have been found at a TV station in Nigeria, including most of the classic story The Web of Fear.

The black and white story sees Patrick Troughton's second Doctor battle robot yeti in the London Underground.

Also recovered is a complete version of Troughton's six-part story The Enemy of the World.

It is thought to be the largest haul of missing episodes recovered in the last three decades.

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WHAT'S BEEN FOUND

The Enemy of the World (1967-68) - episodes 1,2,3,4,5,6 (episode 3 was already in archive)
The Web of Fear (1968) - episodes 1,2,4,5,6 (episode 1 was already in archive - episode 3 still missing)
"It's thrilling," said Mark Gatiss, an actor and writer for the 21st Century incarnation of Doctor Who.

"Every single avenue seemed to have been exhausted, every now and then something turns up - but to have two virtually complete stories out of the blue is absolutely incredible."

The BBC destroyed many of the sci-fi drama's original transmission tapes in the 1960s and 1970s.

However, many episodes were transferred on to film for sale to foreign broadcasters. It is often these prints found in other countries that are the source of retrieved episodes.

In this case, 11 Doctor Who episodes were discovered, nine of which were missing, in the Nigerian city of Jos.

The find was made by Philip Morris, director of a company called Television International Enterprises Archive.


Philip Morris: "I am described as the Indiana Jones of the film world"
Mr Morris said: "The tapes had been left gathering dust in a storeroom at a television relay station in Nigeria. I remember wiping the dust off the masking tape on the canisters and my heart missed a beat as I saw the words, Doctor Who. When I read the story code I realised I'd found something pretty special."

He said it had been a "lucky" find given the high temperatures in the African country. "Fortunately they had been kept in the optimum condition."

Only episode three of The Enemy of the World already existed in the BBC archive. The Nigerian discovery of episodes one, two, four, five and six complete the story.

Episode one of fan favourite The Web of Fear existed, with the rest thought lost forever. Now episodes two, four, five and six have been recovered.

Episode three is still missing, but has been reconstructed from stills to enable restored versions of both stories to be made available for sale via download on Friday.

The latest find means that the number of missing episodes of Doctor Who has dropped from 106 to 97.


Former Doctor Who actors Deborah Watling and Frazer Hines told Lizo Mzimba they were "thrilled" with the discovery
'Quintessential story'
One episode from each story - both last seen in 1968 - were shown at a special event in London on Thursday by BBC Worldwide, the BBC's commercial arm.

Among the guests were actors Frazer Hines and Deborah Watling, who played Troughton's Tardis companions Jamie McCrimmon and Victoria Waterfield.

Episode one of The Enemy of the World is a James Bond-style thriller complete with an exploding helicopter, a hovercraft, gun-toting henchmen and a foreign-accented villain, Salamander (also played by Troughton).

The story opens with the Tardis arriving on an Australian beach where the Doctor strips to his long johns and goes for a dip in the sea.

The Web of Fear is a claustrophobic tale that sees the Doctor battle his old foe, the Great Intelligence, and the yeti in the tunnels of the London tube system.

"It's the quintessential Doctor Who story," said Gatiss. "It has the return of the Abominable Snowmen in an iconic location."

He said it showed Troughton "at the height of his powers".

Frazer Hines recalled that the underground station sets had been so realistic that London Transport accused the BBC of filming at a tube station in secret.

The story also featured an appearance by Deborah Watling's real-life father Jack, reprising his role as Professor Travers.

Recalling Troughton's "wonderful sense of humour" on set, Watling said: "We all got on so well, we were like a family and Pat was always to me like another dad or an uncle. We had a chemistry and I think it showed."

How did she feel when she heard about the recovery of the lost episodes? "I couldn't quite believe it. There had been hoaxes before. I thought it was just another hoax."

Her only other complete story in the archive had been The Tomb of the Cybermen, all four instalments of which were discovered in Hong Kong in 1991.

Hines said: "This now gives me hope that more stories of Patrick's will come out of the woodwork."

The latest find comes as Doctor Who celebrates its 50th birthday. A special episode featuring the current Doctor, Matt Smith, and his predecessor, David Tennant, will be shown on the programme's anniversary on 23 November.


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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Shadowman » Sun Oct 13, 2013 3:01 pm

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Last I heard, they were offering a full-size Dalek statue to anyone who could bring in missing episodes. I wonder if the BBC paid up.

Also, anyone find it kind of funny that he found eleven episodes?
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Postby Burn » Sun Oct 13, 2013 3:15 pm

I find it more funny that something legit came out of Nigeria.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby prowl123 » Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:24 pm

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Burn wrote:I find it more funny that something legit came out of Nigeria.

If only there was a like button...

I think thus may be my cue to start watching Classic Who.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Burn » Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:26 am

The Night of The Doctor.

Surprises galore!

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Postby MagnusPrimal » Sat Nov 16, 2013 1:44 pm

McGann could have done so much as the Doctor. The audios are great, but we were really robbed of a fantastic Doctor.
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Postby Burn » Tue Nov 19, 2013 2:04 pm

Won double pass tickets to see Day of the Doctor at the cinemas in 3D.

So basically once I finish watching it on TV, I'll be jumping in my car and driving for over an hour to get to the cinema.

Then I'll drive home, spend a few hours catching up on things (aka, downloading it) before settling down to watch An Adventure in Time and Space.
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Shadowman » Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:48 pm

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So, according to an interview he had with Huffington Post, Tom Baker is coming back for the special. Also that he was specifically told not to tell anyone.
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Postby Mkall » Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:50 pm

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Burn wrote:The Night of The Doctor.

Surprises galore!

Sorry, I'm not really into the Pre-9th lore. Is that the 8th Doctor?
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Re: The Dr Who (and spin-offs) Thread

Postby Burn » Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:57 pm

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Burn wrote:The Night of The Doctor.

Surprises galore!

Sorry, I'm not really into the Pre-9th lore. Is that the 8th Doctor?


Yes.

You also just lost cool points with me. :(
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