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I agree although I think they did it on purpose (something to do with the next film installment). I just wish there's more balance between the AutoBots and the Decepticons. Next time maybe???

would anyone be laughing if in the next movie they have raised the kill count (for one robot) to topper harley levels? and they were serious about it?

Decepticon_Vandal wrote:

dirk2243 wrote:

Optimus Primevil wrote:and while we're at it, why can't the cons have a decent strike force/special ops team like the bots have? the mayhem attack squad, the heavy brigade, the dreads look pitiful compared to the wreckers and the pack

Yes..... I was hopeing for a wreckers vs dreads scene. The wreckers came on all bad azz, even "somehow" outrunning 3 autobot high performance cars on a straight away, but did very little other then die pretty cool.

The 'cons have all these anonymous throw-aways just for the sole purpose of being brutally killed, no matter how cool they may seem at first. Why can't the Autobots also have faceless "red-shirts" to be fodder for the Decepticons? I'm just asking for a fair fight is all.

EXACTLY!

There are like hundreds of Decepticon protoforms in the movie. Why can't we have some protoforms on the Autobots side as cannon fodder?

When I was watching the trailer for the first time, I strongly assume the Autobots are going to have backup to face an army of Decepticons. Instead, its 9 vs 200+.

Autobots cannon fodders would strongly give more value to the major Decepticon characters like Shockwave.

--Decepticons--
-Megatron-
K: 2 (Jazz, Optimus Prime)
D: 2 (Sam Witwicky; resurrected, Optimus Prime)

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FOR THE LAST TIME, SAM DID NOT DIE!! HIS MIND WAS TRANSPORTED INTO THE MATRIX (similar to Rodimus in G!)

Slashercon wrote:--Decepticons--
-Megatron-
K: 2 (Jazz, Optimus Prime)
D: 2 (Sam Witwicky; resurrected, Optimus Prime)

FOR THE LAST TIME, SAM DID NOT DIE!! HIS MIND WAS TRANSPORTED INTO THE MATRIX (similar to Rodimus in G!)[/quote]

Maybe he did and was just resurrected by the Primes ghosts. We did hear his heart stopping.

I started thinking about the K/D ratio after seeing DOTM. I agree that with how 'deceptive' the Decepticons were supposed to be in the movie they were clearly misrepresented. The Decepticons were supposed to be the bad guys in the movie. But the good guys 'autobots' ended up killing more people which is kind of ironic. But welcome to hollywood where the good guys always win in movies...smh

Slashercon wrote:--Decepticons--
-Megatron-
K: 2 (Jazz, Optimus Prime)
D: 2 (Sam Witwicky; resurrected, Optimus Prime)

FOR THE LAST TIME, SAM DID NOT DIE!! HIS MIND WAS TRANSPORTED INTO THE MATRIX (similar to Rodimus in G!)[/quote]

You read it wrong. Those are Megatron's deaths, he was killed by Sam the first time.

Slightly off topic, but my biggest peeve is how the Decepticons seem to be largely devoid of depth perception and targeting ability despite being battle-hardened soldiers.

There's a scene during the Egypt fight in ROTF where Megatron literally shoots at the human tanks at point blank without hitting a single one, but in return gets nailed in the chest several times before having to turn tail. Even if one were to factor in the blowing sand obscuring his view, wouldn't that work both ways?

It's the same with the protoform Con's.

STANDARD DISCLAIMER: I'm neither a Bay-basher nor Geewunner. Just a neutral fan of both G1 and the movieverse who wanted to state his opinions.

after reading the bio on the box of leader class bumblebee, i think the decepticons were never intended to be a threat if bumblebee killed enough cons to make ironhide lose count, then again the box bios say a lot things that contradict themselves and other media

Optimus Primevil wrote:after reading the bio on the box of leader class bumblebee, i think the decepticons were never intended to be a threat if bumblebee killed enough cons to make ironhide lose count, then again the box bios say a lot things that contradict themselves and other media

I read those box descriptions/bios and take it with a grain of salt. I believe the movie more then I believe a box description.