megatronus wrote:I'm not sure why you want this fight so bad. But I'm happy to indulge your ridiculousness.
Delta Magnus wrote:Rated X wrote:Delta Magnus wrote:TFC version is better.
The biggest problem with TFCs set is razorclaw. He is too big and out of scale with the others and has an ugly voltron looking head sculpt.
He's big to allow for a more proportionate combined form.
False. He's that big because TFC was lazy. MMC Leo Dux is larger than the rest, but the team looks, well... like a team! TFC's figures look comically out of place together because Nemean is twice as tall as any of the limb bots. Look everyone, it's Nemean and the Preda-kids!
You might have a point if the other Predacons were really small. But they aren't- they're pretty damn big themselves. It's just that Nemean is a veritable giant- which makes sense, as with a team like the Predacons, the only one who could lead a team as wild and violent as them is someone equally violent and also much, much bigger. The result is 4 large robots lead by 1 HUGE robot, combining into an
ABSOLUTELY COLOSSAL robot.
Delta Magnus wrote:Also, seeing as they are fairly obviously not supposed to be scaled to their real world animal counterparts (which would result in a hilariously misproportioned combined mode)
Yea, X clearly did not mean animal scale - it's called contextual reading. Straw man, anybody?
How is that a strawman? I was simply pointing out that the only scale guideline you could apply to them aside from the cartoon (the same cartoon that thinks an F-15 is the size of a sedan I might add) was non-viable. I wasn't suggesting X meant animal scale, I was saying that there is no viable scale to judge them by, because animal scale just wouldn't work and G1 cartoon scale is so inconsistent and hilarious that trying to follow it faithfully is an exercise in futility.
Delta Magnus wrote:the only "scale" you can reasonably go by is the cartoon, and the cartoon's grasp on scale was so uttterly laughable that if you wanted "cartoon accurate scale" you'd have to have toys that constantly changed size depending on the scenario. And until we discover Transformium, that ain't gonna happen.
Actually, a nice scale would be an internal scale, as in, having the figures scale to one other in ANY MODE. You cannot honestly argue that TFC does not fail at this. MMC's did a great job of engineering these guys so that they are at least in scale with one another - if you can't do that, why even make an attempt?
And who are you to say what is "correct" integral scale? TFC's Predaking is an interpretation of the concept, and in their interpretation, Razorclaw is much bigger than his teammates, just as in MMC's interpretation he is only marginally bigger than his teammates and Predaking has massively oversized lower legs. Aside from the movieverse, not a single Transformers series has had made any effort to have consistent scale. Optimus Prime alone has been every size from a towering giant to a normal sized Autobot- and that isn't even counting technical errors and animation/art mistakes.
Delta Magnus wrote:Rated X wrote:Also not fond of the aesthetic of the beast modes...very cybertronish from unicron trilogy.
Sure beats the MMC/G1 look, which basically made the beast modes bricks on legs. I mean, seriously, Bovis and Fortis look like toasters.
So where do I put the bread?
Just look at them. They're almost completely rectangular. They look very toaster-y to me. Or if you prefer, they look like breezeblocks.
Delta Magnus wrote:TFC's offerings actually look like robotic animals as opposed to compressed oblongs on puny legs.
Problem is, these aren't Beast Wars figures - why would anyone want G1 homages designed to resemble Rhinox & Cheetor? Besides, this is clearly a matter of aesthetic tastes. I think of MMC's Feral Cons as a vicious team of robots who were inspired by some of the most powerful and dangerous organic life forms on earth, and adopted those likenesses as their robotic alt modes. That's my choice, so leave it alone.
Who said anything about Beast Wars? You're strawmanning. I just prefer TFC's offerings because their beast modes look much more proportionate and a little less blocky. Your interpretation of them is fine, but it's an interpretation, just as MMC's and TFC's Predakings are interpretations. Their opinion on what Predaking should look like is no less valid than yours.
Delta Magnus wrote:The one thing the MMC version did better than TFC's was the sword.
That's one of at lease a dozen things, IMO.
Like what?
Delta Magnus wrote:The MMC serrated greatsword does look a tad better than the TFC version's more generic sword. But I'll take a proportionate, menacing combined mode, huge individual toys and good looking beast modes over a fat-calved, misproportioned conglomeration of quadrupedal bricks who sacrifice proper engineering for slavish accuracy to the often inconsistent and almost constantly badly animated models from a cheap 80s saturday morning cartoon.
I'm really not sure who you think you are, but this is hands down one of the most trollingly obnoxious things I have ever seen on these boards. And I've seen some things.
You've obviously not seen many trollingly obnoxious things if that is one of the worst things you've ever seen here. Is not holding G1 as the pinnacle of all Transformers really that offensive to you?
MMC's Predaking does have nice things about it. The robot modes are cool, the combined mode does have a nice look to it, the weapons are good, and the engineering is pretty solid. However, the legs of the combined mode are just too fat for my liking, the colours are oddly desaturated, the beast modes are a bit lame (the worst of all being Talon, who looks like he needs to lay off the birdseed) and there's lots of little things that just bug me (Leo Dux's lion- belly partsforming off and...becoming Talon's thrusters, the rather shaky looking waist armour, the kinda out of place chrome on Leo Dux's cannons, the wings looking a bit weedy in conbined mode etc) that overall lead me to believe that they spent a bit too much time making him look G1 and not enough time making him work well.
It's not even like I dislike MMC- I love their Hearts of Steel stuff, and I didn't even know HoS existed until I saw their designs. I'd love to get hold of the triplane seekers and the massive paddle steamer Shockwave. But Feral Rex just doesn't do it for me.
Is that really trollingly obnoxious?
Argh, process, preorder! process!!! 
