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Fast_Magma wrote:Does anyone know what is the real life span of a transformer (Autobot/Decepticon)? Is it 10,000 years, 100,000 years, 1 million years, 10 million years? how long do transformers live?
Also, how are transformers born/created?
I saw in the beginning of Transformers The Movie (1986) where there's a planet of robot children
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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:G1 Cartoon: Quintessons
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cotss2012 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:G1 Cartoon: Quintessons
Or the Transformers themselves can just build new Transformers ("S.O.S. Dinobots", "War of the Dinobots", "Heavy Metal War").
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T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:cotss2012 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:G1 Cartoon: Quintessons
Or the Transformers themselves can just build new Transformers ("S.O.S. Dinobots", "War of the Dinobots", "Heavy Metal War").
actually "Heavy metal war" doesnt feature any TF's being created.

Blackmoon wrote:sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:cotss2012 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:G1 Cartoon: Quintessons
Or the Transformers themselves can just build new Transformers ("S.O.S. Dinobots", "War of the Dinobots", "Heavy Metal War").
actually "Heavy metal war" doesnt feature any TF's being created.
I think he means the introduction of the Constructicons, because it was never really explained where they came from in the episode itself.... If that's the right episode I'm thinking of?
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Blackmoon wrote:sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:cotss2012 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:G1 Cartoon: Quintessons
Or the Transformers themselves can just build new Transformers ("S.O.S. Dinobots", "War of the Dinobots", "Heavy Metal War").
actually "Heavy metal war" doesnt feature any TF's being created.
I think he means the introduction of the Constructicons, because it was never really explained where they came from in the episode itself.... If that's the right episode I'm thinking of?
sounds like the right one
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:In that case I must point a severe continuity error on the writers' part. At first they were indeed created on Earth, but several episodes later, we see them in Cybertron's past, and in Devastator form to boot. Look for Robot Smasher and Omega Surpreme.
Plus, I'm willing to bet that the second set of Autobots were reinforcement in the shape of new arrivals.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:In that case I must point a severe continuity error on the writers' part. At first they were indeed created on Earth, but several episodes later, we see them in Cybertron's past, and in Devastator form to boot. Look for Robot Smasher and Omega Surpreme.
sorry but theres no continuity error, severe or minor, at all, Nothing in the episode states that they were "indeed created on Earth" and before you go to the trouble of looking up the episode heres the relevant dialog
"they were worth the time we spent building them here in these caverns"
building is not always synonymous with creating.And the line itself is to vague to infer any definitive meaning.Did he mean he built them from scratch?????, did he mean he built them new bodies????the dialog supports both conclusions.
So, the idea is thern to find evidence from the rest of the episode to try to determine what Megatron meant............and there isint a single peace of evidence in the rest of the episode to indicate that they were newly created robots.
As a matter of fact, theres evidence that the Constructicons were well known to other characters,To begin with , none of the Decepticons expressed any consern in the Constructicons building abilities.Which casn be seen as they knew them well enough to trust them.
Then theres the Autobots, that werent surprised at all by the existence of 6 new decepticons and no shock what so ever at the giant super robot they found fighting the Dinobots.
The Dinos were shocked to see the new characters, the humans were shocked to see Devestator, but all the Autobots acted like he wasnt anything special.And lets not forget that Prime somehow knew Devestators weak point and was able to dissemble him with one shot.
All of this is reasonable evidence to suggest that the Autobots knew who and what the Constructicons were for some timer.
Add that all up and it suggest that Megatron was talking about building them new bodies.Plus, I'm willing to bet that the second set of Autobots were reinforcement in the shape of new arrivals.
you can choose to see it that way if you like, but dialog, in the episode "Desertion of the Dinobots", indicated all the season 2 bots and cons were on Earth as long as Optimus and the others.

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