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There are some things that people just don't like about the Transformers live action movies, so I observed some of the complaints. I realized how a lot of people say that there was no soul or emotion in the movies. That the plot wasn't as driven, and I beg to differ. Let's think about this here, and I don't know if children as getting this message but I did.

The movies showed the importance of humans. It showed us about bullying which has become quite an epidemic in schools and neighborhoods the world over. It shows how important the weak and small are and that we should look out for each other no matter where we are from. It also shows one person matters among the many.

Though one point of view with the Decepticons shows survival at any costs of their homeworld, Optimus and the autobots showed that you just can't achieve what you want at risk of other lives. He would not sacrifice the lives of others that were deemed younger, smaller, weaker for nothing not even his home. It showed how goodness and right always wins the day even when it gets rough if you stay the course the good outweighs the bad.

Love was an essential part of these films from the Autobots for humanity, how humans band together for the sake of all against Decepticons, it showed how you can be evil and bad and still change your ways and be accepted. It also showed that good people are not beyond evil concepts. There are both sides to us all, we just need that one moment to tip the scale (Sentinel Prime).

All in all there is a sense of empowerment there if you chose to see it. It is after all a child's plaything, and adult's collectors item, a homage to a generation fresh from the cold war, civil rights, and everything that goes along with it. Yeah there are bad things about the films as well sterotypes, lewd humor that is not suitable for children because in the end it is a child's plaything more than a collectors item. Tell me your thoughts on this post!

I really like what you have to say. I think I agree for the most part.

However, I wish you would make better use of paragraphs to break up your thoughts and ideas for the sake of those reading.

Thanks for the reply. I just didn't want to lose my thoughts!!!

Wasn't the moral: "If you have lost a war, you mustn't worry about your races' survival at all!"
- first movie: the autobots destroy the only thing that can bring life back to their homeworld
- second movie: the autobots destroy the only thing that can bring energy back to their homeworld
- third movie: the autobots destroy their homeworld

As a fellow fan from another board wrote: "Optimus Prime is a nihilist"

I'm seriously worried about Earths' fate once the remaining Decepticon forces take it over.

Well that is another way of looking at it as well!!!!

It's not just the current Autobots either...

The whole sun harvester thing had me scratching my head, as far as the Transformers' motivations were concerned. Okay so the Earth wasn't a viable option... Move on to the next solar system...? No! The Fallen and the Primes are so idiotic they start infighting, destroy themselves, and leave their planet to expire just to stop one undeveloped planet from being explod0rsized.

I try but I really do struggle to see any merit to the writing in that movie.

The more I think about it, the less it seems a problem of morality but the Transformers themselves being totally insane.

It really all is 'spur of the moment' and 'what looks cool and righteous' storytelling. But the problem with the films is that there was no real character development. No 'soul'. When OP died in the second film, i could have really given a rat's ass because of all i knew about Prime is from the first film, well....pssh...

In the 80s flick, man....i still cry like a bitch everytime OP dies.

And this is just one example amongst a million.

But the bayformer fans don't get that because 99.9% of'm didn't grow up in the 80s, so as long you take an idea, add sex appeal, pot humor, fart humor, and tons of action they'll love the shit out of it and then flame you til they're retarded with no facts or experience to back it up....at least this, has been my experience posting on these forums in the last 5 days or so.

My point is, its nice to speculate about what kind of morals the movies were trying to provide, but ultimately, without the proper writing and directing to tell the story it was all "lost in translation".

Just show me titties and robots blowin shit up and we're good. rofl

The first movie's moral was that you can't expect a victory without sacrifice. Even though the movie never really went out of it's way to show you that.

ROTF had kind of a moral that nothing can stop you from fulfilling your destiny (even death). Even if you do die, it was still your destiny to do so and nothing can stop it.

And DOTM had one of "How far is too far?" It showed both humans and Cybertronians taking drastic measures to save their worlds from extinction. It was really a reflection of the two civilizations.

I really think these movies are deep to an extent.

SlyTF1 wrote:The first movie's moral was that you can't expect a victory without sacrifice. Even though the movie never really went out of it's way to show you that.

ROTF had kind of a moral that nothing can stop you from fulfilling your destiny (even death). Even if you do die, it was still your destiny to do so and nothing can stop it.

And DOTM had one of "How far is too far?" It showed both humans and Cybertronians taking drastic measures to save their worlds from extinction. It was really a reflection of the two civilizations.

I really think these movies are deep to an extent.

Very well looked into, Sly.

SlyTF1 wrote:The first movie's moral was that you can't expect a victory without sacrifice. Even though the movie never really went out of it's way to show you that.

ROTF had kind of a moral that nothing can stop you from fulfilling your destiny (even death). Even if you do die, it was still your destiny to do so and nothing can stop it.

And DOTM had one of "How far is too far?" It showed both humans and Cybertronians taking drastic measures to save their worlds from extinction. It was really a reflection of the two civilizations.

I really think these movies are deep to an extent.

Good stuff.