shamone wrote:you miss the point there. Of course they cant add to it, they are "lesser" species than us. But should we condemn them to slavery, butchery and pain because they are lesser. Because they have not yet developed the ability to express.
We didn't either. We earned our right to rule this planet.
shamone wrote:so the cons have developed and fought to be the new dominant species. do they have the same right
No, they have their own planet. But they decided they wanted ours so they came to trash that to make their own planet nicer.
shamone wrote:i never said eating meat was the problem as such but they way we mass farm it, enslaving animals doing it. animals for the most part kill when they have to eat, they dont farm the animals or enslave them
And yet starvation is still a serious problem. Funny that. Likewise, look at the deer. We actually have
to hunt and kill them each year; it's been proven that they don't know when to quit, and if we don't hunt them they'll overpopulate and end up starving themselves to death.
shamone wrote:the stock argument is the factual argument. Cons are trying to undo the damage they did
No, it's just the one that keeps getting parroted while ignoring new facts. The cons are trying to fix Cybertron by destroying Earth. We're trying to fix Earth without even going to other planets.
shamone wrote:you claim we have learnt by our history. check oil and other fossil fuel consumption and tell me what we have learnt. Look at the drilling in Alaska.
That fuel emissions are currently a necessary evil while we are desperately looking for alternative fuel sources.
shamone wrote:For years there have been studies to find a suitable planet for relocation. A lot of the NASA missions were based around this. Remember plans for a mars base. This is not just for science, but due to the damage we have caused. Why has nbot been continued, cost and infeasibility.
Except there's no other usable planet that we can actually travel to. Mars is a dead rock, we've known that for years.
shamone wrote:Our first steo was not to amend our behavior but find an external solution
Okay, so instead of amending out behavior regarding the treatment of our planet, we instead went looking for a solution...which, when applied, would amend our behavior regarding the treatment of our planet.
You could make a Vulcan's head explode with that kind of logic, you know that?