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Re: The NFL 2011 discussion thread

Postby Blurrz » Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:18 pm

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Good game by the Saints... offense was off the charts in this game.
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Re: The NFL 2011 discussion thread

Postby Cyber Bishop » Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:20 pm

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Blurrz wrote:Good game by the Saints... offense was off the charts in this game.



Agreed...
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Re: The NFL 2011 discussion thread

Postby First-Aid » Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:43 am

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Bright future for Detroit indeed. I tell you, the old Black and Blue Division currently houses three of the top 8 QBs in the NFL right now. So much for the running game. In fact, if you look at it, the only team that RELIES on the running game was Minnesota...and they sucked. I honestly think the Lions could make the Super Bowl in the next couple years. THey need a good RB, one shutdown corner, and a couple good LBs...and if their draft goes well, they could have that next year. THE NFC North may well be the new AFC East and could be the strongest division in the league for several years to come.

As for the Saints...I can sum it all up in two words: Drew Brees. I know the Niners have a good defense, but I just feel like Brees is going to pick it apart. THe Niners right now remind me a little bit of the 1984 Bears...not the 85 Bears, but the 84 team. They are missing one or two pieces, but are a damned good defense and a decent O. They just need a little more time. I think San Fran's run ends next week.
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Re: The NFL 2011 discussion thread

Postby SirSoundwaveIV » Sun Jan 08, 2012 5:20 pm

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I know I've been on the "their offense isn't good enough to support their D" train for weeks now, but I actually think the niners could very well win. All 3 of the saints losses were handed to them outdoors, and their best offensive games towards the end of the year all came in domes (whether home or away). I say right now I'm about 55/45 leaning towards the Niners.

As for the steelers, they're playing awful right now. I don't think I've watched a team play this bad in the playoffs since the packers played the greatest show on turf in like 2001, 2002. (Farve threw about 6 INTs that game and we lost like 55-14, something embaressing like that)
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Re: The NFL 2011 discussion thread

Postby Blurrz » Sun Jan 08, 2012 7:13 pm

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Haha oh boy, what a game. Clutch Tebow
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Re: The NFL 2011 discussion thread

Postby Cyber Bishop » Sun Jan 08, 2012 7:19 pm

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Um... I thought the Broncos were not supposed to win against the Steelers???

That is where the term "any given Sunday" comes from..
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Re: The NFL 2011 discussion thread

Postby First-Aid » Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:25 pm

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I...I just don't know what to say. I'm beginning to wonder if Tim Tebow DOES in fact have help from above. Granted, virtually the entire D-line of the Steelers were backups, Polamalu was fighting a concussion, and Big Ben had one leg to stand on, but it just is nuts. THe other major thing was the Steelers playing without Ryan Clark- who is the toughest player in the NFL IMHO now that I know he has sickle cell trait.

THe Giants just manhandled Atlanta. Matty Ice thawed in the playoffs yet again. WIll this be the last game for the Falcons head coach? I tend to think so...he should have kicked FGs at two points in the game but went for it and got nothing, and it cost them a game earlier in the year as well. So our matchups are as follows:

Game 1: Denver at New England. The Patriots defense hasn't been able to stop a damned thing on the ground all year. Denver runs like nobody's business. BUt if it came to a shootout, New England will beat them every time. I know I said it last time, but I just cannot see Denver outscoring the Pats. New England 28, Denver 14

Game 2: All of the national attention will be on the Pat-Broncos and the Giants-Packers, but this may be the biggest game of the weekend. These teams win with defense. They have VERY good lines, can put pressure on the QB, and have able secondaries. BOth teams have good running games and wideouts. Baltimore has the experience of Joe Flacco and Houston the youthful energy of TJ Yates. The probleb with this game is that Baltimore has Joe Flacco. Joe can be amazing...and Joe can be horrid. In the playoffs, he tends to be horrid. I believe the winner of this game will represent the AFC in the Super Bowl...and I think it's Houston's turn. I will say though, this is a hard one to call. Houston 17, Baltimore 16.

Game 3: New York Giants at Green Bay Packers: With all the talk about Eli Manning becoming an "elite quarterback", there is one player who puts him to shame...and they will be playing against him in this game. Green Bay's offense is a machine, plain and simple. And it doesn't even seem to matter what parts are in there. There simply is not an answer for it right now in the NFL. Now, what will determine this game is the Packer defense- the team that led the NFL in interceptions. Manning can throw picks...in fact, he usually does. If he throws 2 or more picks, this game is over. I'd almost go as far as to say that he can't throw ANY picks or the game will be over. The trick will be: can that pathetic Packers D stop Thunder and Lightning? I don't think they have to. I think they will simply outscore them. Packers 30, Giants 23

Game 4: New Orleans Saints at San Francisco Forty Niners: This game boils down to one thing: can the Niners stop the offensive Einstein that is Drew Brees? I think they might. But can they ALSO stop Darren Sproles, Chris Ivory, and Pierre Thomas WHILE maintaining coverage on receivers while a man with the football knowledge equivalent of Spock looks over their defense? Doubtful. FOr the Niners, this game is ALL about the D. They can't play with N'Orleans in a shootout...the only one who can is playing the Giants. If San Fran holds the Saints to 21 points, they have a shot. Don't see it happening though. New Orleans 33, 49ers 21.
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Re: The NFL 2011 discussion thread

Postby Cyber Bishop » Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:00 am

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Re: The NFL 2011 discussion thread

Postby Marcus Rush » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:20 pm

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I would like to ask the question to those who have watched the Saints this season. Can you name a victory of theirs over a top 5 defense at the time of that victory in the elements against a team that has not given up a 30pt game all season long?

Same question can be asked of Green Bay Packers. The first elite defense they faced was Kansas City, which ranked 4 at the time, and they got hammered. Not saying the Saints will lose horrifically. But I can honestly see a team such as the Niners holding them to about 24 points. And if that is the case, Alex Smith can easily pick apart their subpar defense and move the ball down the field. Besides NEVER underestimate the value of ball control. Niners can run the ball very well and eat up the clock like nobody else. In that alone it reduces Brees' number of possessions. You reduce the number of times they have the ball in his hands, and you have an even greater chance at victory.

Plus face it, the field out in Candlestick absolutely sucks. It is the suckiest suck that has ever sucked a sucking suck. Its pitted, its uneven, its muddy and it is moss grown. Its a horrible field to play on. The elements are an enemy to Drew Brees, that is another factor against the Saints this season.

I can see it being a 24 SF - 23 NO game. Primarily because I figure defenses will be the heroes here that and special teams. Never forget the power of a punter who can launch a ball 70 yards and hit a needle nearly every time.
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Re: The NFL 2011 discussion thread

Postby Cyber Bishop » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:43 pm

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Brees has so many weapons he can utilize..
And since they f'ed up and lost to the Rams they seem to be a team "on a mission".

We will see.. Remember "any given Sunday"..
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Re: The NFL 2011 discussion thread

Postby Marcus Rush » Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:27 pm

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Cyber Bishop wrote:Brees has so many weapons he can utilize..
And since they f'ed up and lost to the Rams they seem to be a team "on a mission".

We will see.. Remember "any given Sunday"..


Shame this is a Saturday game. I hope they come up with a good catch phrase for Saturday games so we can use them during playoffs.
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Re: The NFL 2011 discussion thread

Postby Cyber Bishop » Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:30 am

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Cyber Bishop wrote:Brees has so many weapons he can utilize..
And since they f'ed up and lost to the Rams they seem to be a team "on a mission".

We will see.. Remember "any given Sunday"..


Shame this is a Saturday game. I hope they come up with a good catch phrase for Saturday games so we can use them during playoffs.


I know.. It is the only football phrase there is... :???:
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Re: The NFL 2011 discussion thread

Postby Marcus Rush » Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:12 pm

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Cyber Bishop wrote:
Marcus Rush wrote:
Cyber Bishop wrote:Brees has so many weapons he can utilize..
And since they f'ed up and lost to the Rams they seem to be a team "on a mission".

We will see.. Remember "any given Sunday"..


Shame this is a Saturday game. I hope they come up with a good catch phrase for Saturday games so we can use them during playoffs.


I know.. It is the only football phrase there is... :???:


Indeed, shame I gotta work through that game too. It sucks horrifically. I do trust I can get some excellent analysis when I return, but I don't trust those ESPN fools.
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Re: The NFL 2011 discussion thread

Postby SirSoundwaveIV » Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:19 pm

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49ers win 36-32...wow. Great game. One thing I noticed is how the 49ers allowed 32 to the Saints at home even though they got 5 takeaways...if they play the packers, that's not a very good sign. If they play the giants, they'll be playing for a super bowl I believe.
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Re: The NFL 2011 discussion thread

Postby Heavy B » Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:38 pm

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SirSoundwaveIV wrote:49ers win 36-32...wow. Great game. One thing I noticed is how the 49ers allowed 32 to the Saints at home even though they got 5 takeaways...if they play the packers, that's not a very good sign. If they play the giants, they'll be playing for a super bowl I believe.

I missed that last play (the Pats were playing) But they showed the replay of it and HOLY DAMN, that had to have crushed the saints fans...
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Re: The NFL 2011 discussion thread

Postby SirSoundwaveIV » Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:41 pm

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Dr. Heavy B wrote:
SirSoundwaveIV wrote:49ers win 36-32...wow. Great game. One thing I noticed is how the 49ers allowed 32 to the Saints at home even though they got 5 takeaways...if they play the packers, that's not a very good sign. If they play the giants, they'll be playing for a super bowl I believe.

I missed that last play (the Pats were playing) But they showed the replay of it and HOLY DAMN, that had to have crushed the saints fans...


Yeah I stuck with it to the end because it was an awesome game and the pack weren't on next, turned just in time to see Brady throw his first TD and the Broncos first TO...uh oh for the Broncos.
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Re: The NFL 2011 discussion thread

Postby Heavy B » Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:58 pm

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SirSoundwaveIV wrote:uh oh for the Broncos.

Thats the feeling at the half
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Re: The NFL 2011 discussion thread

Postby captain craig » Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:12 pm

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I was kinda hoping for a Brees vs Brady SuperBowl, oh well.
I have to think the league/media would want a Packers/Patriots showdown now.

If the Pats score another TD I'm putting in a DVD. I don't see a miracle happening here for the Broncos.
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Re: The NFL 2011 discussion thread

Postby Wreck 'n Rule » Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:23 pm

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Re: The NFL 2011 discussion thread

Postby Blurrz » Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:23 pm

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This has probably been the most depressing 60 minutes I've watched. Oh well, next season I guess. Could care less who wins the SB, all the teams deserve to be where they are.
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Re: The NFL 2011 discussion thread

Postby Heavy B » Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:35 pm

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WHERE THE HELL DID THE PATS D COME FROM. How many yards was Tebow pushed back?
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Re: The NFL 2011 discussion thread

Postby Cyber Bishop » Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:44 pm

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SirSoundwaveIV wrote:49ers win 36-32...wow. Great game. One thing I noticed is how the 49ers allowed 32 to the Saints at home even though they got 5 takeaways...if they play the packers, that's not a very good sign. If they play the giants, they'll be playing for a super bowl I believe.

I missed that last play (the Pats were playing) But they showed the replay of it and HOLY DAMN, that had to have crushed the saints fans...



Ah it took the wind out of us.. But we are survivors..
Oh and if the refs had their eyes open the Saints would have won especially due to the helmet to helmet on Thomas in the beginning of the game which led to their TD.. That would have been 7 less points for the 9ers..

Still Kudos to them as their win streak will most likely end next week against the Pack.. And if the Pack does not finish them then the Pats will.
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Re: The NFL 2011 discussion thread

Postby First-Aid » Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:27 pm

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The Niners did a heck of a job keeping up with the Saints. BUt let's face it: the Saints lost that game. They turned it over 5 times and STILL had 42 points. If they have a good draft defensively, that it one really scary team next year. One less turnover and the Niners would have lost. But that was one hell of a finish.

Broncos- Pats...no surprise there.
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Re: The NFL 2011 discussion thread

Postby Cyber Bishop » Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:41 am

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First-Aid wrote:The Niners did a heck of a job keeping up with the Saints. BUt let's face it: the Saints lost that game. They turned it over 5 times and STILL had 42 points. If they have a good draft defensively, that it one really scary team next year. One less turnover and the Niners would have lost. But that was one hell of a finish.

Broncos- Pats...no surprise there.


Yeah 5 times.. With one being from a head to head tackle that completely knocked someone out.. That should have been a penalty and the niners should NOT have gotten the ball on that play (which they ended up scoring on).

Hopefully they get rid of the D coordinator Gregg Williams too.
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Re: The NFL 2011 discussion thread

Postby Cyber Bishop » Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:40 am

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