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Re: The Offical Sailor Moon Topic

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:57 pm

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Darth Bombshell wrote:Found something interesting in the Previews online order form.

DEC11 1946 SAILOR MOON SAILOR MARS & SAILOR JUPITER PIN SET (C: 1-1-2) 02/29/12 SRP: $6.99
DEC11 1947 SAILOR MOON SAILOR MERCURY & SAILOR VENUS PIN SET (C: 1-1-2) 02/29/12 SRP: $6.99
DEC11 1948 SAILOR MOON SAILOR MOON & TUXEDO KAMEN PIN SET (C: 1-1-2) 02/29/12 SRP: $6.99
DEC11 1949 SAILOR MOON MOON STICK PVC KEYCHAIN (C: 0-1-2) 02/29/12 SRP: $4.99
DEC11 1950 SAILOR MOON MOON TRANSFORMATION PEN PVC KEYCHAIN (C: 0-1-2) SRP: $4.99


Anyone know what these are?
Most likely some of this product:
http://www.geanimation.com/InfoOnly/characters_list.aspx?CharacterID=236
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Re: The Offical Sailor Moon Topic

Postby Darth Bombshell » Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:59 am

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Sabrblade wrote:Most likely some of this product:
http://www.geanimation.com/InfoOnly/characters_list.aspx?CharacterID=236


If that's true...those are SO going on my order form. :grin:
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Re: The Offical Sailor Moon Topic

Postby RK_Striker_JK_5 » Sat Nov 26, 2011 1:31 pm

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I got volume two of both. Is this the final volume for Sailor V? Haven't read them, as of yet. But that Ami-chan cover... =P~
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Re: The Offical Sailor Moon Topic

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Nov 26, 2011 3:55 pm

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RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:I got volume two of both. Is this the final volume for Sailor V?
Yes.

The quality for both is about as sub-par as the first two volume 1 books. It's caused kind of a mini-war between those who wanted these books to strive for professional quality, and those who are blindly praising these books thinking we should all just be grateful to have Sailor Moon back at all (which is basically like saying that we should be grateful that we can spend our money on sub-par product). :roll:
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Re: The Offical Sailor Moon Topic

Postby Darth Bombshell » Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:19 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:The quality for both is about as sub-par as the first two volume 1 books. It's caused kind of a mini-war between those who wanted these books to strive for professional quality, and those who are blindly praising these books thinking we should all just be grateful to have Sailor Moon back at all (which is basically like saying that we should be grateful that we can spend our money on sub-par product). :roll:


Considering the originals are long out of print and the possibility of ever seeing them again practically nonexistent until recently...shouldn't we?
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Re: The Offical Sailor Moon Topic

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Nov 26, 2011 10:23 pm

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Darth Bombshell wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:The quality for both is about as sub-par as the first two volume 1 books. It's caused kind of a mini-war between those who wanted these books to strive for professional quality, and those who are blindly praising these books thinking we should all just be grateful to have Sailor Moon back at all (which is basically like saying that we should be grateful that we can spend our money on sub-par product). :roll:


Considering the originals are long out of print and the possibility of ever seeing them again practically nonexistent until recently...shouldn't we?
The manga deserves much better treatment than it got. Kodansha practically rushed through it without even considering how much backlash their sloppiness would result in. They completed the whole translation well in advance of their very first announcement, which was eight months ago. They had all that time to go and have an editor look over their work and make the necessary corrections to the spelling/grammar/syntax errors, as well as fix many of the other problems, yet they did not.

After volume 1 was reviewed, the translator of the book, William Flanagan, responded on Facebook to give his stance on the translation... except that what he focused on primarily were some of the most minute translation issues that most people would get by easily, completely ignoring the more major concerns people had with the translation.

Why should we be grateful to a company that only cares about getting our money and not giving us a quality product? It's not too much to ask for them to have at least proofread something that they had finished 8 MONTHS before the official release. This release was made out to be such a big deal that seemed like it was going to be a high quality release, and then it comes out chock out full of errors that would make any English teacher cry or cringe. And then when our critiques are addressed, the translator dodges the big points and focuses on irrelevant issues.

We want this to be something great. We want this to succeed and be the best it can be. But Kodansha really crippled it with these translation flaws (since the translation is arguably the biggest concern of English manga releases) and gave us a sloppy and stilted product with little signs of improvement. :-(

And these criticisms are by no means out of line. We have every right to state our opinions and give commentary on the quality of these releases. Yet, SO many people who blindly praise these books as being flawless and godsends just because they're official Sailor Moon manga releases and are of a better quality than the previous Mixx/Tokyopop releases deem us as being inhuman whiners and haters. We shouldn't be content with shoddiness just because it's official.

It's the same with the Transformers. Look at all the reviews of the toys/cartoons/comics/movies/games/books/etc. Just because it's all official doesn't mean it's all good quality product. Nor do we have to "be happy" we have what we have. If something has flaws and can be better, then we have every right to say so. We're not "bashing", we're "analyzing".
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Re: The Offical Sailor Moon Topic

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:32 pm

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#-o Oh good grief, will this streak of flat translating ever end?

News from the third volume of the Kodansha SM manga. It's no better than the first two volumes.

*Mercury attack: "Hyperspatial Sphere Generate"

*The Four Sisters are now called "The Spectre Sisters".

*Chibi-Usa is spelled with the hyphen, just so you know.

*Chibi-Usa: "This is a Luna-P Ball. Its name is Luna-P." Redundancy, aisle 9.

*Because since having everybody always call Usagi's gem "Legendary Silver Crystal" isn't a mouthful enough, Black Moon's gem is always called "Malefic Black Crystal" to match.

*Jupiter attack: "Spark Ring Wide Pressure". ... ... okay... A little too awkward of a name.
My reactions to each:

1. "Chou Jigen Kuukan Genshutsu" literally means "Super-Dimensional Space Emergence". Mixx/Tokyopop translated it as "Hyperspace Area Formation", which fan group Miss Dream also went with. "Hyperspatial" sounds a little okay. But the "Sphere Generate" part is blah.

2. Eh, "Ayakashi" can mean something like that ("Phantom", "Ghost", Spectre", etc.), but both Mixx/Tokyopop and Miss Dream opted for "Weird" and "Strange", respectively.

3. Ugh, don't like that hyphen. >:oP

4. Bleh.

5. Gag me! What was so wrong with simply "Evil Black Crystal"?

6. Oh, come on! Really? They couldn't tell it was "Sparkling Wide Pressure"? You've gotta be kidding me! That is just pathetic! Pitiful! Fail, Kodansha! You FAIL!

Oh, brother. >:oP
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Re: The Offical Sailor Moon Topic

Postby RK_Striker_JK_5 » Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:40 pm

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Malefic... channeling old Disney, there? ;) :D
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Re: The Offical Sailor Moon Topic

Postby Bad Wolf » Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:58 pm

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finally got around to taking some pics as i set up the display in the new apt..enjoy (ok i know, some of the pics are a bit fuzzy >.<)

Image Image Image

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*pictured*
two sailor moon sticker books, sailor neptune, pluto, uranus, dark lady, star sailor saturn
sailor mercury, mars, jupiter, venus, moon, tuxedo mask. queen serena, chibi moon
queen beryl, sailor moon back back with moon karaoke head gear, moon bed, moon want, luna ball/jewelry box

*edit*
ok my bad, i know this was a discussion about the show >.< didnt see a thread in the non-TF toys forum. move as needed
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Re: The Offical Sailor Moon Topic

Postby RK_Striker_JK_5 » Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:35 pm

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Oh, that's fine, Bad Wolf. :) As long as it's Sailor Moon, methinks it's cool.
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