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[Rodimus2006]

The designs for Trailblazer and Devestator where made bye fans as possbile guessing on who will be in the upcoming Transformers-Revenge of the Fallen.

go to google.com and type in transformers movie blog and click on the 1st link on the page it pulls up.

You will have to go the various topics to find the fan-made designs on the page.

They were so good you could have swore they could actually be real ones in the new movie.

Also I have seen the Bicentinial Corvette's Robotic mode and it looked damn sweet but I am still having confusions on rather it is Sideswipe or Hot Rod.

Also they are alot of talk about Arcee will she be in the movie, why she has not been seen on set that much and also she might be a Triple changer combiner three motorcycles making 1 character.

Arcee will be in the movie but only for brief appearences, most of the time she will be in Robotic Mode and she will not be killed off in the upcoming movie.

Devestator will be in it but only for a brief scene like a cameo appereance and will be a huge battle like maybe at the ending of the movie.

Rumore Optimus & Jetfire may combine like in Armdada to make Jet-Convoy. But if this does inded happen it will be a brief scene and with the main bad guy of the movie.

[Sabrblade]

Getting back to Animated, who all here wants Hasbro to make toys of the Animated Constructicons? They said they haven't done anything with them yet, what with the all the work they doing for ROTF.

So, would any of you want them to make toys of good old Mix and Scrap?

[Dead Metal]

Getting back to Animated, who all here wants Hasbro to make toys of the Animated Constructicons? They said they haven't done anything with them yet, what with the all the work they doing for ROTF.

So, would any of you want them to make toys of good old Mix and Scrap?

There is supposed to be a concept sketch of Mixmaster's alt-mode in an "awkward position almost looking like a leg.... that and the fact that Hasbro has bought the lycences to all the G1 constructicon names including Devastator leads me to believe that we'll be getting them in the end as combiners.

[Sabrblade]

Getting back to Animated, who all here wants Hasbro to make toys of the Animated Constructicons? They said they haven't done anything with them yet, what with the all the work they doing for ROTF.

So, would any of you want them to make toys of good old Mix and Scrap?

There is supposed to be a concept sketch of Mixmaster's alt-mode in an "awkward position almost looking like a leg.... that and the fact that Hasbro has bought the lycences to all the G1 constructicon names including Devastator leads me to believe that we'll be getting them in the end as combiners.

They probably bought the licences for the names to be used in ROTF.

And, do you know where I can see the "Awkward Mixmaster" pic?

[Rodimus2006]

The toys of the show look alot diffrent than thier animated counterparts only ones that look like thier animated parts are Optimus, Prowl, Ratchet and a couple of others.


The toy of waspinator is nothing like his animated version and the animated versions is like a indentical twin of BB.

This could be just cause he hasnt scanned an ALT Mode yet, but I think he will be on Earth and deal with BB he will scan his ALT Mode.

Also we saw Cliffjumper and Iron Hide in Season 2 so does that mean we will see more of them in Season 3.

[Dead Metal]

Getting back to Animated, who all here wants Hasbro to make toys of the Animated Constructicons? They said they haven't done anything with them yet, what with the all the work they doing for ROTF.

So, would any of you want them to make toys of good old Mix and Scrap?

There is supposed to be a concept sketch of Mixmaster's alt-mode in an "awkward position almost looking like a leg.... that and the fact that Hasbro has bought the lycences to all the G1 constructicon names including Devastator leads me to believe that we'll be getting them in the end as combiners.

They probably bought the licences for the names to be used in ROTF.

And, do you know where I can see the "Awkward Mixmaster" pic?

It's in a Transformers art book that was sold at BotCon 08. I haven't seen it myself yet but I would like to.

[Sabrblade]

This could be just cause he hasnt scanned an ALT Mode yet, but I think he will be on Earth and deal with BB he will scan his ALT Mode.

Wasp and everyone else already has an altmode before they come to Earth. They're just Cybertronian modes.

[ACIDSTORM]

Getting back to Animated, who all here wants Hasbro to make toys of the Animated Constructicons? They said they haven't done anything with them yet, what with the all the work they doing for ROTF.

So, would any of you want them to make toys of good old Mix and Scrap?

personally i dont buy animated toys but i cant help but think why they're leaving them so long my theory-i think they're going to introduce devastator

oh and rodimous2006 get your facts right before you post them on here
1. he's called rodimous prime not hot rod that would be too confusing if they're introducing hot shot
2.all transformers have cybertronian alt modes unless they were made on earth by the allspark e.g wreck-gar.

[Saber Prime]

1. he's called rodimous prime not hot rod that would be too confusing if they're introducing hot shot.

You'd be wrong either way, it's Rodimus not Rodimous. Besides why would it be too confusing to have Hot Shot and Hot Rod in the same series? They've done it before multiple times actully.

Hell Hot Shot was actully in G1 not as a main character but the name was mentioned at the start of that race the Autobots entered. I don't know the name of the episode but all the Autobots entered into a race in a G1 episode. I belive it was the first season so Hot Rod didn't technically exsist yet but still both names were used in the series.

They allso had Skyfire, Skyblast, and Jetfire in Transformers Energon. Skyfire and Skyblast I can't remember right now but I think were both Omnicons useing the same mold.

At any rate have Hot Shot and Hot Rod in the same series wouldn't be confusing at all conidering they were never the same character. Haveing Skyfire and Jetfire in Energon as different characters was confuseing though considering the original character from G1 used both names depending on cartoon or comic continuidy.

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

You'd be wrong either way, it's Rodimus not Rodimous. Besides why would it be too confusing to have Hot Shot and Hot Rod in the same series? They've done it before multiple times actully...

Dude I think you need to check your facts.....particulary when your saying that someone else is wrong

As far as I can tell they has "NEVER" been "ONE" TF cartoon where the names "HOTROD" and "HOTSHOT" were used together.

If you can please show me one since you said its been done "multiple times" ??????

Hell Hot Shot was actully in G1 not as a main character but the name was mentioned at the start of that race the Autobots entered. I don't know the name of the episode but all the Autobots entered into a race in a G1 episode. I belive it was the first season so Hot Rod didn't technically exsist yet but still both names were used in the series..

There was "NEVER" a Transformer character in the G1 cartoon called Hotshot.

There were 2 episodes that featured the autobots in a race and both were season 2 episodes, "The Autobot Run" and "Trans-Europe Express".

If I'm right a human driver, Auggie Cahnay, in "Trans-Europe Express" was called a "HOTSHOT" by someone but no TF's were named that in the episode.

There was a "HOTSPOT" in G1 but he was a fire truck.

The first time that the name "Hotshot" was used on a TF was in the RID serries.

So to date there has not been a TF cartoon or toyline that had characters with the names Hotrod and Hotshot at the same time.

They allso had Skyfire, Skyblast, and Jetfire in Transformers Energon. Skyfire and Skyblast I can't remember right now but I think were both Omnicons useing the same mold. .

This one I cant say your wrong about but I do question it.

I look around and I find no evidence of a "SHYFIRE" in the Energon serries.

Maybe it was a mistake in the cartoon but I cant find a Skyfire toy in that line.

At any rate have Hot Shot and Hot Rod in the same series wouldn't be confusing at all conidering they were never the same character..

I really wouldnt be too worried about it.

Hasbro hasnt been able to use the name "HotRod" on a toy for years.They can only use the name in "Fiction" but not on a toy.

The "prefix" trick they used on others like "Autobot Jazz" cant be used with HotRod so unless they plan on only useing the name in the toon and calling the toy something else we wont be seeing "HotRod used at all.

Haveing Skyfire and Jetfire in Energon as different characters was confuseing though considering the original character from G1 used both names depending on cartoon or comic continuidy.

Can you provide me with an "Example" of the name Skyfire being used in Energon.

Because as far as I can tell the only time that name was used on a toy to date [bring any future TFA figures with the name] was on a RID toyline figure.

[Rodimus2006]

It was Jetfire in Energon not Skyfire he hasnt been in since Generation 1.


Hot Shot & Rodimus where in Energon Rodimus was with Alpha Trion on Unicrons Head trying to restore him and he and Hot Shot were on opposing sides but eventually they worked together.


Jetfire was in all 3 parts of the Unicron Saga but looked diffent each time.


Dont remember Energon that well cause it has been years since I last saw it on TV.


TV Shows I want box sets of are

Megas XLR could finish the series out on Direct-to-DVD
Sailor Moon Re-Mastered original Sailormoon G1
ReBoot
Mobile Suit Gundam (Anime Legends) Amuro Ray
Power Rangers Generation 1 & 2 Lord Zed, Rita, Power Rangers Zeo
X-Men Ultimate DVD Box Set from FOX that now shows on Jetix
Spider-Man from FOX also seen on Jetix also Ultimate-Spiderman

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

It was Jetfire in Energon not Skyfire he hasnt been in since Generation 1.

Like I said there was a SKYFIRE toy in the TF RID toyline but the character never made it to the show.

Hot Shot & Rodimus where in Energon.

Yes but I said Hotrod not Rodimus.

[Rodimus2006]

well then no they havent besides the Generation 1 deal at the end when Hot Rod used the matrix of leadership to upgrade to Rodimus Prime and destroying Unicron.

Other than that no, Hotrod nor Rodimus have not been together in any cartoons.

Look in animated season 3 it is either going to be Hot-Rod or Rodimus Prime, my money is on Hot-Rod.

Hot-Rod will be a memeber of the elite gaurd with his own team of mean which would explain Hotshot and the female Red Alert medic probably Perceptor and Arcee could also be on his team also but is yet to be known or made official.

Everything is speculations and rumors at this point except for the concept art and the unofficial offial news that Animated season 3 will be back in in spring 2009.

[ACIDSTORM]

saber prime was right about the confusing bit, it probably wouldn't be confusing but all i'm saying since there was that Team rodimus vs team cyclonus thing i would have thought it would be rodimus, prime or not but i can't remember skyfire and skyblast being together.
And sto vo kor was right there's no one called hot shot in g1 as i remember

[Sabrblade]

There has NEVER been a series that had both a "Hot Rod" and a "Hot Shot". G1 had a "Hot Spot" but not a "Hot Shot".

However, the name "hot shot" has been used in G1 as an adjective nickname for various characters. For example, in the G1 episode "The Core", Mirage tossed a grappler hook to Sunstreaker and said , "Catch, hot shot!" when his name is still Sunstreaker. It was used as a pet name, not a real name.

Energon had Hot Shot and "Rodimus", but not a "Hot Rod" (they're not that same guy).

Energon only had a "Skyblast" and a "Jetfire". "Skyfire" has only been used in the G1 cartoon, the RiD toyline, and the Henkei toyline/manga. Nowhere else.

Look in animated season 3 it is either going to be Hot-Rod or Rodimus Prime, my money is on Hot-Rod.

Why would "RP" stand for "Hot Rod"?

[Dead Metal]

Look in animated season 3 it is either going to be Hot-Rod or Rodimus Prime, my money is on Hot-Rod.

Why would "RP" stand for "Hot Rod"?

Gee cos he said so.

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

well then no they havent besides the Generation 1 deal at the end when Hot Rod used the matrix of leadership to upgrade to Rodimus Prime and destroying Unicron.

Other than that no, Hotrod nor Rodimus have not been together in any cartoons.
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And again I said "HotShot" and"HotRod" .....I never said Rodimus.

L

ook in animated season 3 it is either going to be Hot-Rod or Rodimus Prime, my money is on Hot-Rod..

And again as I said Hasbro has not been able to use the name "HOTROD" on a toy for years legally so if they are going to release a toy they wont be useing that name.

[Saber Prime]

You'd be wrong either way, it's Rodimus not Rodimous. Besides why would it be too confusing to have Hot Shot and Hot Rod in the same series? They've done it before multiple times actully...

Dude I think you need to check your facts.....particulary when your saying that someone else is wrong

As far as I can tell they has "NEVER" been "ONE" TF cartoon where the names "HOTROD" and "HOTSHOT" were used together.

If you can please show me one since you said its been done "multiple times" ??????

You need to read further into the post before you make comments like that.

If you notice I allso mentioned Skyfire and Jetfire being in Energon. I was talking about them useing simular sounding names multiple times not JUST the names Hot Rod and Hot Shot. Allso I did point out one time further into the post where Hot Shot and Hot Rod were both in G1 but Hot Shot was a backround character who's name was only mentioned in a single episode. I allso said it was technically before Hot Rod was introduced but I still count it.

Hell Hot Shot was actully in G1 not as a main character but the name was mentioned at the start of that race the Autobots entered. I don't know the name of the episode but all the Autobots entered into a race in a G1 episode. I belive it was the first season so Hot Rod didn't technically exsist yet but still both names were used in the series..

There was "NEVER" a Transformer character in the G1 cartoon called Hotshot.

There were 2 episodes that featured the autobots in a race and both were season 2 episodes, "The Autobot Run" and "Trans-Europe Express".

If I'm right a human driver, Auggie Cahnay, in "Trans-Europe Express" was called a "HOTSHOT" by someone but no TF's were named that in the episode.

There was a "HOTSPOT" in G1 but he was a fire truck.

The first time that the name "Hotshot" was used on a TF was in the RID serries.

So to date there has not been a TF cartoon or toyline that had characters with the names Hotrod and Hotshot at the same time.

Even if that's true that still doesn't mean haveing both in the same series would make it any more confusing than haveing Hot Spot and Hot Rod or Jetfire and Skyfire in the same series. There are ALOT of Transformers who have simular sounding names like that and they're in damn near every series.

It would only be confusing to someone who didn't actully watch the show. Like trying to ask someone who isn't a Sci-fi fan to exsplain the difference between Star Wars and Star Trek. Hell I seen someone at Wal-Mart once who was looking at Star Wars toys and called them Star Trek, she apperently didn't like either and couldn't read sence the correct title is on the packaging in huge @$$ letters.

So would you say you have trouble telling G1 Hot Spot and Hot Rod apart from eachother? No ones a fire truck and the other is a car.

Would you say you have trouble telling Energon Skyfire and Jetfire apart from eachother? No Skyfire's an Omnicon and Jetfire is a bomber plane.

So why would this be any different if it's been done before with no problems.

They allso had Skyfire, Skyblast, and Jetfire in Transformers Energon. Skyfire and Skyblast I can't remember right now but I think were both Omnicons useing the same mold.

This one I cant say your wrong about but I do question it.

I look around and I find no evidence of a "SHYFIRE" in the Energon serries.

Maybe it was a mistake in the cartoon but I cant find a Skyfire toy in that line.

I'm thinking it might of been an exclusive figure but Skyblast does kinda look like G1 Sky Fire.

Allso to add to the list of confusing names look what I did find.

http://www.seibertron.com/database/list ... ries_id=25

If you look through that list of names in Energon there are 4 characters who share the Sky prefix in their names and 2 of them are Sky Blast spelled as 2 words and Skyblast spelled as one word. They're the same name just with a different spelling.

I've noticed alot of TF fans tend to change the spelling of TF names sence their names are so damn confusing some times it's hart to remember if their name is one word or two. This is way more of a confusion than just haveing a simular name, they have the same name spelled differently.

Haveing Skyfire and Jetfire in Energon as different characters was confuseing though considering the original character from G1 used both names depending on cartoon or comic continuidy.

Can you provide me with an "Example" of the name Skyfire being used in Energon.

Because as far as I can tell the only time that name was used on a toy to date [bring any future TFA figures with the name] was on a RID toyline figure.

I'm preddy sure I've seen a repaint of the Omnicon Skyblast as Sky Fire, it may not of been in the Energon line but I thought it was.

I'm going to look up the episode titles you gave me, I only remember the G1 Autobots being in a race once. The A/E/C Autobots is another story with all the plots they had focusing aroud Speed Planet.

[Saber Prime]

Well I thought it was at the start of the race for "The Autobot Run" but on any rate I noticed two HUGE animations errors in this first part. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUQDiGQnkXQ

The Autobots decide that Huffer is going to stay at the bace but he can be seen transforming and leaveing with all the rest of them

Later Shockwave is seen with Megatron and the Seekers when they first show up at the race track but then he dissapears. Shockwave is never supose to even leave Cybertron so why they'd make so big an error as to draw him on Earth is a mystory. Some times I think they did that kinda thing on purpus just to see if anyone would notice.

There's another simular name thing for ya BTW, Soundwave and Shockwave. I know some TF fans who are G1 purists but they don't even realize after x years that Soundwave and Shockwave are different characters.

I think the only people who actully remember them are the ones who kept up with TF this whole time and didn't just stop watching after the original series ended.

I just found another error here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLbTtlIU ... h_response Skywarp was painted like Starscream. I know it's Skywarp because of the voice and the fact he was able to Teliport.

"Trans-Europe Express"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K_mDJPi ... re=related

How did Bumblebee fall into some trees in a forest when they were out in the middle of the desert that whole time?

Anyway I didn't even hear them call that Human Driver a Hot Shot. They could of but they didn't. Allso I think he looked like Rodimus Prime when the Autobots got turned into humans by that guy from G.I. Joes.

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

You need to read further into the post before you make comments like that. ;

If you notice I allso mentioned Skyfire and Jetfire being in Energon. I was talking about them useing simular sounding names multiple times not JUST the names Hot Rod and Hot Shot.

I read it 5 times in full before I replied to you.You may have "ALSO MENTIONED" other characters but it was in a seprate paragraph.

Your sentance about "Multible times" was following the sentance about HotShot and HotRod and in the same paragraph.

That implies that the 2 sentances were linked together as one statement.

Anybody reading that would have come to the same conclusion about what you were saying.

Here it is again.

You'd be wrong either way, it's Rodimus not Rodimous. Besides why would it be too confusing to have Hot Shot and Hot Rod in the same series? They've done it before multiple times actully.

You did not make yourself very clear.

Thats not my falt.

Allso I did point out one time further into the post where Hot Shot and Hot Rod were both in G1 but Hot Shot was a backround character who's name was only mentioned in a single episode. I allso said it was technically before Hot Rod was introduced but I still count it.

And again "HotShot" was not a G1 character at all.But the term "Hotshot" was used to describe characters from time to time.

Sunstreaker was once called "Hotshot".

Even if that's true

It is

that still doesn't mean haveing both in the same series would make it any more confusing than haveing Hot Spot and Hot Rod or Jetfire and Skyfire in the same series. There are ALOT of Transformers who have simular sounding names like that and they're in damn near every series.

Thats very true.I never made a comment on wether it would be confusing because I dont thin it would be.

Would you say you have trouble telling Energon Skyfire and Jetfire apart from eachother? No Skyfire's an Omnicon and Jetfire is a bomber plane.

Like I said I cant find any evidence of a "Energon Skyfire".

So why would this be any different if it's been done before with no problems.

See above.

I'm thinking it might of been an exclusive figure but Skyblast does kinda look like G1 Sky Fire.

Thats what they intended.

Its my understanding that Hasbro wanted to use the name "Skyfire" but lost the rights so they used "Skyblast" instead.

Allso to add to the list of confusing names look what I did find.

http://www.seibertron.com/database/list ... ries_id=25

If you look through that list of names in Energon there are 4 characters who share the Sky prefix in their names and 2 of them are Sky Blast spelled as 2 words and Skyblast spelled as one word. They're the same name just with a different spelling.

You dont even have to look at the later serries for evidence of that.

G1 was full of character with the name "SKY"-something.Between G1 and G2, which are linked, there was at least 10 characters with SKY in their names.

Not to mention that G1 had examples of the same name being used on 2 different characters.

There were 2 Skyhighs,2 Barricade and 2 Skydives.

I'm going to look up the episode titles you gave me, I only remember the G1 Autobots being in a race once. The A/E/C Autobots is another story with all the plots they had focusing aroud Speed Planet.

Go right ahead buddy.

Well I thought it was at the start of the race for "The Autobot Run" but on any rate I noticed two HUGE animations errors in this first part. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUQDiGQnkXQ

The Autobots decide that Huffer is going to stay at the bace but he can be seen transforming and leaveing with all the rest of them.

There are many simular errors in season 2.

Later Shockwave is seen with Megatron and the Seekers when they first show up at the race track but then he dissapears. Shockwave is never supose to even leave Cybertron so why they'd make so big an error as to draw him on Earth is a mystory. Some times I think they did that kinda thing on purpus just to see if anyone would notice..

If I'm right in the shots that we see Shockwave we dont see Soundwave.So maybe it was a "Swap job".

But ether way that episode is 1 of 2 times that Shockwave is seen on earth.

I just found another error here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLbTtlIU ... h_response Skywarp was painted like Starscream. I know it's Skywarp because of the voice and the fact he was able to Teliport..

Theres plenty of "Seeker Swap" errors in both season 1 and 2.

Anyway I didn't even hear them call that Human Driver a Hot Shot. They could of but they didn't..

Well I said I wasnt sure but I still think it happened.I think it was ether Bluestreak or Smokescrean that said it.

Anyway check out the episode "The core" and you'll see someone call Sunstreaker a hotshot.

Allso I think he looked like Rodimus Prime when the Autobots got turned into humans by that guy from G.I. Joes.

A lot of the humans looked alike.

[Saber Prime]

You need to read further into the post before you make comments like that. ;

If you notice I allso mentioned Skyfire and Jetfire being in Energon. I was talking about them useing simular sounding names multiple times not JUST the names Hot Rod and Hot Shot.

I read it 5 times in full before I replied to you.You may have "ALSO MENTIONED" other characters but it was in a seprate paragraph.

Your sentance about "Multible times" was following the sentance about HotShot and HotRod and in the same paragraph.

That implies that the 2 sentances were linked together as one statement.

Anybody reading that would have come to the same conclusion about what you were saying.

Here it is again.

It was allso the first paragraph which would make it an introduction to the following paragraphs.

I could understand the confusion if they were seperate posts but not seperate paragraphs.

I'm thinking it might of been an exclusive figure but Skyblast does kinda look like G1 Sky Fire.

Thats what they intended.

Its my understanding that Hasbro wanted to use the name "Skyfire" but lost the rights so they used "Skyblast" instead.

Maybe that's where the confusion came from? What's his name in Japan?

Allso to add to the list of confusing names look what I did find.

http://www.seibertron.com/database/list ... ries_id=25

If you look through that list of names in Energon there are 4 characters who share the Sky prefix in their names and 2 of them are Sky Blast spelled as 2 words and Skyblast spelled as one word. They're the same name just with a different spelling.

You dont even have to look at the later serries for evidence of that.

G1 was full of character with the name "SKY"-something.Between G1 and G2, which are linked, there was at least 10 characters with SKY in their names.

Not to mention that G1 had examples of the same name being used on 2 different characters.

There were 2 Skyhighs,2 Barricade and 2 Skydives.

I don't recall ANY of thoughs names being used in G1. I'm not aware of any character at all with the name Skyhights. The only Barricade I'm aware of is from the movie and I belive Skydive is from Energon.

Later Shockwave is seen with Megatron and the Seekers when they first show up at the race track but then he dissapears. Shockwave is never supose to even leave Cybertron so why they'd make so big an error as to draw him on Earth is a mystory. Some times I think they did that kinda thing on purpus just to see if anyone would notice..

If I'm right in the shots that we see Shockwave we dont see Soundwave.So maybe it was a "Swap job".

But ether way that episode is 1 of 2 times that Shockwave is seen on earth.

Shockwave was only seen once in the episode and Soundwave was missing for longer than that. He was flying with them to the track but was not seen durring the whole time they were there untill they all met up with the Constructicons again.

You know for a character who thinks humans are inferior Megatron sure has a long history of kidnaping humans to help him with his plans. G1 Megatron didn't keep them around as long as RID and Animated did though. Heck G1 Megatron wasn't verry good at keeping captives, the guy he took to help look for the jewel/power core weather thingy managed to sneak away when no one was looking.

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

I could understand the confusion if they were seperate posts but not seperate paragraphs.

Again like I said both sentenses were in the same paragraph and directly followed each other.

They looked connected.

Maybe that's where the confusion came from? What's his name in Japan?

I dont know what Skyblast's name is in Japan but Jetfire is called "Skyfire" in Japan.

I don't recall ANY of thoughs names being used in G1. I'm not aware of any character at all with the name Skyhights. The only Barricade I'm aware of is from the movie and I belive Skydive is from Energon.

Not suprissing since one 1 0f the 3 ever made it to the toon.

It was Skyhigh and one was an Autobot Pretender and the other a Autobot Micromaster.The show was canceled before the Pretenders or Micromasters were released.

Barricade was a Delux Incsecticon and a Decepticon Micromaster.The 4 Delux Insecticons never made it to the show because they could not be featured on Japan TV for legal reasons.

And Skydive was one of the Arialbots and a Decepticon Micromaster.Obviously Arialbot Skydive made it to the toon in season 2....I guess you forgot about him

Shockwave was only seen once in the episode and Soundwave was missing for longer than that. He was flying with them to the track but was not seen durring the whole time they were there untill they all met up with the Constructicons again..

Its been a while since I saw that episode.But I dont remember if both were ever seen together in that episode.

[Sabrblade]

Man! Both of you are giving me a headache!

Sto, you are correct about Sky High (Pretender) and Sky High (Micromaster), but not about the others.

There was only one Barricade in G1, the Decepticon Micromaster. The Deluxe Insecticon you're thinking of is Barrage.

As for Skydive, yes there was the Autobot Aerialbot, but there was no Decepticon Micromaster. There was a Decepticon Predator and a 2007 Universe Autobot Micromaster though.


Saber Prime, in Energon cartoon or toyline, there was no Skyfire, exclusive or otherwise. Skyblast was going to be named Skyfire, but was named Skyblast instead. In Superlink, Jetfire was named Skyfire and Skyblast was named Air Glide.

As for the Skyblast, Sky Blast, Skyboom, and Skyshadow in the Energon toyline. "Skyblast" is the Omnicon jet that looks like G1 Skyfire, "Sky Blast" is the redecoed Armada Space Team Mini-Con that was included with the Energon Ultra Magnus toy (redecoed from Armada Overload), "Skyboom" is the leader of the Energon Saber Mini-Cons (redecoed/remolded from Armada Sonar), and Sky Shadow is one of the limbs to Superion Maximus.

Out of these four, only Skyblast, Skyboom, and Sky Shadow appeared in the show. Skyblast was with the other Omnicons, Skyboom was part of the Energon Saber, and Skyshadow was part of Superion Maximus (and was shown to act like a drone controlled by the torso bot (called Storm Jet in the toyline, but still referred to as Superion Maximus in the show).

Sky Blast (Mini-Con) was just a toy.


And I thought the whole "Hot Shot in G1" thing was cleared up when this was written:

However, the name "hot shot" has been used in G1 as an adjective nickname for various characters. For example, in the G1 episode "The Core", Mirage tossed a grappler hook to Sunstreaker and said , "Catch, hot shot!" when his name is still Sunstreaker. It was used as a pet name, not a real name.

For anyone that still doesn't get it, there was no, I repeat, NO Hot Shot in G1!

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Man! Both of you are giving me a headache!

Why is that????

Sto, you are correct about Sky High (Pretender) and Sky High (Micromaster), but not about the others.

I did get some details mixed up but I was on the right track....let me explain.......

There was only one Barricade in G1, the Decepticon Micromaster. The Deluxe Insecticon you're thinking of is Barrage.

Your right.....but my mistake was in typing "Barricade".

The name "Barrage" was the delux Insecticon as [as you pointed out] and the name was also used on an Autobot Micromaster.
http://www.tfu.info/1990/Autobot/Barrage/barrage.htm

And my original point was to show how in G1 they used the same names on different characters.

I dont know why I mixed those up.I need some sleep.

As for Skydive, yes there was the Autobot Aerialbot, but there was no Decepticon Micromaster. There was a Decepticon Predator and a 2007 Universe Autobot Micromaster though.

I thought the "Predator"'s were a sub-group of the Micromasters toy line.

Being a U.K. exclusive I've never seen one so I didnt know much about it.

And I thought the whole "Hot Shot in G1" thing was cleared up when this was written:

However, the name "hot shot" has been used in G1 as an adjective nickname for various characters. For example, in the G1 episode "The Core", Mirage tossed a grappler hook to Sunstreaker and said , "Catch, hot shot!" when his name is still Sunstreaker. It was used as a pet name, not a real name.

For anyone that still doesn't get it, there was no, I repeat, NO Hot Shot in G1!

Serves you right for thinking.

[Sabrblade]

As for Skydive, yes there was the Autobot Aerialbot, but there was no Decepticon Micromaster. There was a Decepticon Predator and a 2007 Universe Autobot Micromaster though.

I thought the "Predator"'s were a sub-group of the Micromasters toy line.

Being a U.K. exclusive I've never seen one so I didnt know much about it.

No, the Predators were full-sized TFs. They consisted of Skyquake, Stalker, Falcon, Skydive, Snare, and Talon.

The toys of Skyquake and Stalker were later redecoed in Machine Wars as Starscream and Soundwave, and again in Universe (2003-2007) as King Atlas and Soundwave again.