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[Saber Prime]

And what makes Kazemon not a real digimon? It doesn't matter if she was made by the merge of Zoe and the Human Spirit of Wind.

No you got that a little wrong.

The same could be done to make Kazemon. Merging the spirit with a digi-egg, I mean.

You're right the same COULD be done but that is what does not matter.

The Spirit of Wind can be merged with anything to create Kazemon thearetically so it could be said that the Spirit itself IS Kazemon. The spirit of Wind however is no more a Digimon than a Digivice is. It's just a tool used to digivolve. It doesn't have a life of it's own.

The evil Digimon Hybrids were actully formed from spirits and Digimon. It's that Digimon part of them that makes them Digimon not the spirit. If that makes any sence.

With the Digidestin they are humans who can use Spirits to take on Digimon form but does that really make them Digimon? Are they any different as Digimon then they are as humans? Do the spirit digimon have seperite minds of their own or are they entirely just there in form but with human mind? That's why Kazemon is not a real Digimon, the digimon form of Kazemon has no independant mind, it's just Zoe in Digimon form.

Now if you look at say Gallentmon who is a bio eveolution of both human and digimon that's a different story. Gallentmon actully has two individual personalitys one human and the other Digimon.

So it doesn't matter that Kazemon could be formed by a merge with a Digimon. What does matter is that Kazemon ISN'T formed by a Digimon of any kind. She's a human in Digimon form.

Basically a simple way of putting it is that Kazemon is a Digimon in body but not in mind.

Gallentmon is a digimon in body and in mind but is only human in mind.

Gallentmon has two minds, Kazemon only has one.

[Sabrblade]

And what makes Kazemon not a real digimon? It doesn't matter if she was made by the merge of Zoe and the Human Spirit of Wind.

No you got that a little wrong.

The same could be done to make Kazemon. Merging the spirit with a digi-egg, I mean.

You're right the same COULD be done but that is what does not matter.

The Spirit of Wind can be merged with anything to create Kazemon thearetically so it could be said that the Spirit itself IS Kazemon. The spirit of Wind however is no more a Digimon than a Digivice is. It's just a tool used to digivolve. It doesn't have a life of it's own.

The evil Digimon Hybrids were actully formed from spirits and Digimon. It's that Digimon part of them that makes them Digimon not the spirit. If that makes any sence.

With the Digidestin they are humans who can use Spirits to take on Digimon form but does that really make them Digimon? Are they any different as Digimon then they are as humans? Do the spirit digimon have seperite minds of their own or are they entirely just there in form but with human mind? That's why Kazemon is not a real Digimon, the digimon form of Kazemon has no independant mind, it's just Zoe in Digimon form.

Now if you look at say Gallentmon who is a bio eveolution of both human and digimon that's a different story. Gallentmon actully has two individual personalitys one human and the other Digimon.

So it doesn't matter that Kazemon could be formed by a merge with a Digimon. What does matter is that Kazemon ISN'T formed by a Digimon of any kind. She's a human in Digimon form.

Basically a simple way of putting it is that Kazemon is a Digimon in body but not in mind.

Gallentmon is a digimon in body and in mind but is only human in mind.

Gallentmon has two minds, Kazemon only has one.

If you have seen the finale to Frontier, then you may remeber that the spiirts came to life at the end of the series. Though they were transparent, they were still alive at that time.

Besides, Hybrid digimon have appeared in other media outside of Frontier as regular digimon that weren't made from a spirit. Look at Digimon World 3, for example. Agunimon and KendoGarurumon appear in that game as a result of a DNA Digivolution between two regular digimon.

Gallantmon has also appeared in Frontier, X-Evolution, and Savers/Data Squad as a natural Mega, show no signs of a Biomerge between a human and a digimon. (That brief scene in Frontier of him did use his Tamers "dual voice" in the dub, but that still doesn't mean he was biomerged digimon. Omnimon, for example, has a dual voice, yet he's not biomerged either).

[Saber Prime]

And what makes Kazemon not a real digimon? It doesn't matter if she was made by the merge of Zoe and the Human Spirit of Wind.

No you got that a little wrong.

The same could be done to make Kazemon. Merging the spirit with a digi-egg, I mean.

You're right the same COULD be done but that is what does not matter.

The Spirit of Wind can be merged with anything to create Kazemon thearetically so it could be said that the Spirit itself IS Kazemon. The spirit of Wind however is no more a Digimon than a Digivice is. It's just a tool used to digivolve. It doesn't have a life of it's own.

The evil Digimon Hybrids were actully formed from spirits and Digimon. It's that Digimon part of them that makes them Digimon not the spirit. If that makes any sence.

With the Digidestin they are humans who can use Spirits to take on Digimon form but does that really make them Digimon? Are they any different as Digimon then they are as humans? Do the spirit digimon have seperite minds of their own or are they entirely just there in form but with human mind? That's why Kazemon is not a real Digimon, the digimon form of Kazemon has no independant mind, it's just Zoe in Digimon form.

Now if you look at say Gallentmon who is a bio eveolution of both human and digimon that's a different story. Gallentmon actully has two individual personalitys one human and the other Digimon.

So it doesn't matter that Kazemon could be formed by a merge with a Digimon. What does matter is that Kazemon ISN'T formed by a Digimon of any kind. She's a human in Digimon form.

Basically a simple way of putting it is that Kazemon is a Digimon in body but not in mind.

Gallentmon is a digimon in body and in mind but is only human in mind.

Gallentmon has two minds, Kazemon only has one.

If you have seen the finale to Frontier, then you may remeber that the spiirts came to life at the end of the series. Though they were transparent, they were still alive at that time.

Besides, Hybrid digimon have appeared in other media outside of Frontier as regular digimon that weren't made from a spirit. Look at Digimon World 3, for example. Agunimon and KendoGarurumon appear in that game as a result of a DNA Digivolution between two regular digimon.

Gallantmon has also appeared in Frontier, X-Evolution, and Savers/Data Squad as a natural Mega, show no signs of a Biomerge between a human and a digimon. (That brief scene in Frontier of him did use his Tamers "dual voice" in the dub, but that still doesn't mean he was biomerged digimon. Omnimon, for example, has a dual voice, yet he's not biomerged either).

Omnimon was a DNA of two Digimon not a Biomerge.

DNA Digivolve is two Digimon becoming one.

Biomerge is Digimon and human becomeing one digimon.

Spirit was just a human or a Digimon becoming a Digimon.

I actully haven't seen that much of Digimon passed the first two series. The others kind of create entirely different storys that go agenst how the original ended. I catch little segments here and there but I've never watched one all the way through.

The new one I noticed even broke the tridition of making the lead character wear goggles. They're reuseing old digimon with new evolutions. And this kid's even more of a hot head than any of the past digidestin combined. He ACTULLY thinks he can solve every single freaking problem with his fist. I can't belive how increadibly stupid that kid is. The others know to let the Digimon do the fighting. I've seen this kid run up and punch mega levels exspecting it to hurt them. I so want to see him get crushed.

It's like watching a human on Transformers run up and punch Megatron, it's just stupid.

Can we get the message to animators to stop makeing humans so incredibly stupid that they run twards giant creatures that could kill them just by blinking. You're supose to run AWAY from giant deadly monsters unless you have super powers or some kind of weapon, NOT YOUR FIST.

[Sabrblade]

Omnimon was a DNA of two Digimon not a Biomerge.

DNA Digivolve is two Digimon becoming one.

Biomerge is Digimon and human becomeing one digimon.

Spirit was just a human or a Digimon becoming a Digimon.

I actully haven't seen that much of Digimon passed the first two series. The others kind of create entirely different storys that go agenst how the original ended. I catch little segments here and there but I've never watched one all the way through.

The new one I noticed even broke the tridition of making the lead character wear goggles. They're reuseing old digimon with new evolutions. And this kid's even more of a hot head than any of the past digidestin combined. He ACTULLY thinks he can solve every single freaking problem with his fist. I can't belive how increadibly stupid that kid is. The others know to let the Digimon do the fighting. I've seen this kid run up and punch mega levels exspecting it to hurt them. I so want to see him get crushed.

It's like watching a human on Transformers run up and punch Megatron, it's just stupid.

Can we get the message to animators to stop makeing humans so incredibly stupid that they run twards giant creatures that could kill them just by blinking. You're supose to run AWAY from giant deadly monsters unless you have super powers or some kind of weapon, NOT YOUR FIST.

Don't go bashing Marcus when you don't really know anything about him. He has to punch out the digimon he's fighting, otherwise Agumon couldn't digivolve.

Let me sum up all that I want to say by this: don't something judge if you don't know anything about it. Watch it before you criticize it. It just so happens the final episode of its dub just aired a little while back, so every episode is available to spam spam spam spam.

Also, earlier I was going to say that we should take this discussion to the Digimon thread here, but it seems to has been lost in the flood. Perhaps one of us should make a new one so we continue this. Cuz I for one am enjoying this "intelligent debate", as I call it.

I'll probably make it tonight and let you know, so keep an eye out on this thread.

[Saber Prime]

Omnimon was a DNA of two Digimon not a Biomerge.

DNA Digivolve is two Digimon becoming one.

Biomerge is Digimon and human becomeing one digimon.

Spirit was just a human or a Digimon becoming a Digimon.

I actully haven't seen that much of Digimon passed the first two series. The others kind of create entirely different storys that go agenst how the original ended. I catch little segments here and there but I've never watched one all the way through.

The new one I noticed even broke the tridition of making the lead character wear goggles. They're reuseing old digimon with new evolutions. And this kid's even more of a hot head than any of the past digidestin combined. He ACTULLY thinks he can solve every single freaking problem with his fist. I can't belive how increadibly stupid that kid is. The others know to let the Digimon do the fighting. I've seen this kid run up and punch mega levels exspecting it to hurt them. I so want to see him get crushed.

It's like watching a human on Transformers run up and punch Megatron, it's just stupid.

Can we get the message to animators to stop makeing humans so incredibly stupid that they run twards giant creatures that could kill them just by blinking. You're supose to run AWAY from giant deadly monsters unless you have super powers or some kind of weapon, NOT YOUR FIST.

Don't go bashing Marcus when you don't really know anything about him. He has to punch out the digimon he's fighting, otherwise Agumon couldn't digivolve.

Let me sum up all that I want to say by this: don't something judge if you don't know anything about it. Watch it before you criticize it. It just so happens the final episode of its dub just aired a little while back, so every episode is available to spam spam spam spam.

Also, earlier I was going to say that we should take this discussion to the Digimon thread here, but it seems to has been lost in the flood. Perhaps one of us should make a new one so we continue this. Cuz I for one am enjoying this "intelligent debate", as I call it.

I'll probably make it tonight and let you know, so keep an eye out on this thread.

According to the dialog on the show Digimon's divolution is controlled by EMOTION not his fist. Several characters on the show have been trying to teach him NOT to use his fist but he doesn't listen. So no he does NOT need to punch digimon to get Augumon to Digivolve, Augumon's digivolve is triggered by Marcus' emotions not his punching other digimon like a freaking idiot.

It's verry clear Marcus doesn't punch Digimon to trigger the Evolution for Augumon, he actully thinks he can hurt them by punching them. He allways acts really surprised when his punch has absolutly no effect on them and as far as he knows getting Augumon to Digivolve is just some weird side effect. He doesn't know how it's really triggered even though everyone does and has told him several times how it works.

I've seen like 3 episodes of Digimon Data Squad and from the 3 episodes, Poncholeomon who is apperently Marcus' father has told him that emotion triggers the Digimon's evolution. The guy who runs DATS told him about the emotion thing. Hell even some random old man who doesn't even have a digimon knows how it works. Marcus seems to be the only character on the show who has no idea how to controll his digimon's evolution and he's definatly the only character who trys to fight digimon himself. He's the only character EVER who trys to fight digimon by himself.

He actully thinks he doesn't need Augumon, he can just fight on his own.

You seem to like to ignore alot of dialog don't you? I know more about Marcus after just 3 episodes than you seem to. He is just a hot headed idiot who doesn't listen and everyone else on the show know how to control Digimon evolution, for Marcus, he can't control it because he can't control his emotions and thinks every problem is solved by his fist.

[Sabrblade]

Omnimon was a DNA of two Digimon not a Biomerge.

DNA Digivolve is two Digimon becoming one.

Biomerge is Digimon and human becomeing one digimon.

Spirit was just a human or a Digimon becoming a Digimon.

I actully haven't seen that much of Digimon passed the first two series. The others kind of create entirely different storys that go agenst how the original ended. I catch little segments here and there but I've never watched one all the way through.

The new one I noticed even broke the tridition of making the lead character wear goggles. They're reuseing old digimon with new evolutions. And this kid's even more of a hot head than any of the past digidestin combined. He ACTULLY thinks he can solve every single freaking problem with his fist. I can't belive how increadibly stupid that kid is. The others know to let the Digimon do the fighting. I've seen this kid run up and punch mega levels exspecting it to hurt them. I so want to see him get crushed.

It's like watching a human on Transformers run up and punch Megatron, it's just stupid.

Can we get the message to animators to stop makeing humans so incredibly stupid that they run twards giant creatures that could kill them just by blinking. You're supose to run AWAY from giant deadly monsters unless you have super powers or some kind of weapon, NOT YOUR FIST.

Don't go bashing Marcus when you don't really know anything about him. He has to punch out the digimon he's fighting, otherwise Agumon couldn't digivolve.

Let me sum up all that I want to say by this: don't something judge if you don't know anything about it. Watch it before you criticize it. It just so happens the final episode of its dub just aired a little while back, so every episode is available to spam spam spam spam.

Also, earlier I was going to say that we should take this discussion to the Digimon thread here, but it seems to has been lost in the flood. Perhaps one of us should make a new one so we continue this. Cuz I for one am enjoying this "intelligent debate", as I call it.

I'll probably make it tonight and let you know, so keep an eye out on this thread.

According to the dialog on the show Digimon's divolution is controlled by EMOTION not his fist. Several characters on the show have been trying to teach him NOT to use his fist but he doesn't listen. So no he does NOT need to punch digimon to get Augumon to Digivolve, Augumon's digivolve is triggered by Marcus' emotions not his punching other digimon like a freaking idiot.

It's verry clear Marcus doesn't punch Digimon to trigger the Evolution for Augumon, he actully thinks he can hurt them by punching them. He allways acts really surprised when his punch has absolutly no effect on them and as far as he knows getting Augumon to Digivolve is just some weird side effect. He doesn't know how it's really triggered even though everyone does and has told him several times how it works.

I've seen like 3 episodes of Digimon Data Squad and from the 3 episodes, Poncholeomon who is apperently Marcus' father has told him that emotion triggers the Digimon's evolution. The guy who runs DATS told him about the emotion thing. Hell even some random old man who doesn't even have a digimon knows how it works. Marcus seems to be the only character on the show who has no idea how to controll his digimon's evolution and he's definatly the only character who trys to fight digimon himself. He's the only character EVER who trys to fight digimon by himself.

He actully thinks he doesn't need Augumon, he can just fight on his own.

You seem to like to ignore alot of dialog don't you? I know more about Marcus after just 3 episodes than you seem to. He is just a hot headed idiot who doesn't listen and everyone else on the show know how to control Digimon evolution, for Marcus, he can't control it because he can't control his emotions and thinks every problem is solved by his fist.

I made the thread. Let's take this discussion there.

[Saber Prime]

Does anyone else think that with the returning voice actor from past series and the many guest appearances in Animated that they should give guest roles to the past Optimus Primes and Megatrons?

Obviously not AS Optimus and Megatron, but maybe in other roles that are related to the current characters. I was even thinking of Frank Welker appearing as Megatron's father.

David Kaye would be left out of the line up as he's in every episode anyway as Optimus Prime, Grimlock, and Lugnut.

[Sabrblade]

Does anyone else think that with the returning voice actor from past series and the many guest appearances in Animated that they should give guest roles to the past Optimus Primes and Megatrons?

Obviously not AS Optimus and Megatron, but maybe in other roles that are related to the current characters. I was even thinking of Frank Welker appearing as Megatron's father.

David Kaye would be left out of the line up as he's in every episode anyway as Optimus Prime, Grimlock, and Lugnut.

I could see Gary Chalk voicing Rodimus Prime.

[ebilly99]

SPOILER SARI SUMDAC
After racking my brian I fugiered out part of the what is sari question, Remeber the first eppisode that while Dr sumdac is giving a tour he mentions the microbots, it seems like a mighty coincedence that the first scene featuring sari also explains the microbots. Also the microbots have already played a bit role (Giant Roaches, and the trash devoures from garbage in garbage out)

[Sabrblade]

SPOILER SARI SUMDAC
After racking my brian I fugiered out part of the what is sari question, Remeber the first eppisode that while Dr sumdac is giving a tour he mentions the microbots, it seems like a mighty coincedence that the first scene featuring sari also explains the microbots. Also the microbots have already played a bit role (Giant Roaches, and the trash devoures from garbage in garbage out)

Um, I'm sorry, but what?

What evidence is there that she's a nanobot?

It would seem obvious that she like some kind of android, given the evidence that she deteriorates by anti-organic radiation in "Along Came a Spider", catches a cold in "Nature Calls", sets off the Elite Guard ship's organic contamination alert in "The Elite Guard", and is unaffected by the electronic shutdown weapon in "SUV". Yet she has some robotic circuitry exposed in her arm in "A Bridge too Close, Part II".