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[Sabrblade]

It is sad cause I done forgot what it was about and like I said it was almost a decade ago back in the early 90's.

Damn I am getting old.

Not really. RiD aired on TV in 2001-2002. The TF show that was on in the early 90s was Transformers Generation 2, then Beast Wars in 1996.

[Rodimus2006]

Sorry Like I said it has been along time since I even last saw RiD.

Also I though Generation 2 was just Comic-Deal or a Japan only thing.

Also it was Beast Wars, then Beast Machines followed bye the Unicron Trilogy of Armada, Energon and Cybertron.


I am sure Beast Machines played after RiD was over with as Generation 2 was never seen in the US.


Generation 2 is were Megatron is a Tank not a gun. also introduced a lot of new characters.


I always thought G2 was a Comic-Book and it was only Shown in Japan on TV.

If it was shown here in the states I must have missed it cause I only remember Beast Machines and RiD and of course G1 and Beast Wars.


Shown in the USA

Transformers Generation 1
Trransformers The Movie
Transformers The Rebirth
Transformers RiD
Transformers Beast Wars
Transformers Beast Machines
Transformers Armada
Transformers Energon
Transformers Cybertron
Transformers Animated

Not seen or shown in the US

Beast Wars 2
Beast Wars Neo could be just Beast Wars 2 Neo
Transformers Victory
Transformers The Headmasters or Season 4 of G1
Transformers Super God Master Force


I am a little confused on Beast Wars I no that they were more shows of it in Japan but I am not exactly sure on the name of it

Beast Wars 2 or Beast Wars 2 Neo


But I watched alot of cartoons back in the early 90's and I do not remeber seeing Generation 2 on TV here in the states.

I always watched FOX, Disney and of course Toonami was getting going in the early 90's and of course they were other channels also that showed toons also SCI-FI channel also showed cartoons on it also when it was 1st on cable.

[Saber Prime]

Also I though Generation 2 was just Comic-Deal or a Japan only thing.

It was however in the cartoon they redid some exsisting G1 episodes with EXSTREMLY annoying CGI effects between scenes and called it G2 however it was just G1 with stupid effects added in.

The japan/comic whatever it was G2 was actully a continuation of G1. So if you want to get overly technical the REAL G2 never hit the U.S. except maybe in comics and toys. The cartoon got a fake G2 which was actully still part of G1.

Also it was Beast Wars, then Beast Machines followed bye the Unicron Trilogy of Armada, Energon and Cybertron.

I am sure Beast Machines played after RiD was over with as Generation 2 was never seen in the US.

Nope R.I.D. took place in between Beast Machines and Armada. R.I.D. was allso the last Transformers series to air on Fox Kids as whoever took over the network and changed the name to the Fox Box got rid of all the shows I use to watch and replaced them with mostly really stupid crap like that pinyada show.

Again we did get something which they refered to as G2 but it was only G1 episodes redone with really stupid CGI effects.

Generation 2 is were Megatron is a Tank not a gun. also introduced a lot of new characters.

I always thought G2 was a Comic-Book and it was only Shown in Japan on TV.

Yes but not in the US cartoon. G2 was just G1 episodes with stupid CGI effects that happen every 5 sec.

Transformers Generation 1
Trransformers The Movie
Transformers The Rebirth
Transformers RiD
Transformers Beast Wars
Transformers Beast Machines
Transformers Armada
Transformers Energon
Transformers Cybertron
Transformers Animated

Earlier you said R.I.D. happen between Beast Wars and Beast Machines now you're saying it happen before Beast Wars and you're wrong on both accounts.

Transformers Generation 1 (Technically speaking both the movie and the rebirth were still part of G1 so you really didn't need to list them seperatly. There were 2 seasons of G1 then the movie, then season 3, then the Rebirth, and then I belive the fake G2.)
Transformers Beast Wars
Transformers Beast Machines
Transformers RiD
Transformers Armada
Transformers Energon
Transformers Cybertron
Micheal Bay's Transformers (You completly forgot this one but I don't really blame you, I hated that movie.)
Transformers Animated

Beast Wars 2
Beast Wars Neo
Transformers Victory
Transformers The Headmasters or Season 4 of G1
Transformers Super God Master Force

Again out of order and you might be missing some, I'm not really sure.

Headmasters would be first, then Victory and Super God Master Force but I don't know what order thoughs two are in, Beast Wars 2 and Beast Wars Neo yes you were right they are two different series would be last in that order.

I actully can't remember or just don't know what network originally showed G1 but I think it was Fox.

Beast Wars, Beast Machines, and R.I.D. I know were on Fox Kids but after R.I.D. ended Fox Kids turned into the Fox Box and their rateings probly droped from there sence their shows mostly suck now.

Armada, Energon, Cybertron, and Animated all played on Cartoon Network. Cybertron allso had a short run on Kids WB but I don't think they had the full series and just showed reruns that allready played on Cartoon Network.

I've noticed Cartoon Network and Kids WB have ALOT of the same shows so I'm inclined to belive they're run by the same people.

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Also I though Generation 2 was just Comic-Deal or a Japan only thing.

There was a Generation 2 cartoon shown in the U.S. but it was a re-edit of the G1 cartoon

Heres the first episode.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MAjbv1pDNc

I am sure Beast Machines played after RiD was over with

No....RID came out in the US after Beast Machines.But its the other way around in Japan.

as Generation 2 was never seen in the US.

Yes it was.

Generation 2 is were Megatron is a Tank not a gun. also introduced a lot of new characters.

Correct but the G2 cartoon was a re-edit of the G1 cartoon with no new animation so in the G2 cartoon Megatron was still a gun.

But I watched alot of cartoons back in the early 90's and I do not remeber seeing Generation 2 on TV here in the states.

Yep you missed it.

But to tell the truth I think they only re-edited about 13 episodes.

[Rodimus2006]

Look this is all cool info regarding Transfomrers past history "what was shown and not shown here in the USA".


Look like I said it is just cool that Transformers Animated Season 3 is coming out next spring.

The bad thing is that it is still almost 6 or 7 months aways from now.

But they are plety of stuff to keep us busy while we are waiting on it.

Transformers Enegergon DVD Box Set

Stargate Antlantis Season 5

Stargate Universe coming out next year

Knight Rider

Terminator The Sarah Connors Chronicles

Code Geass



See like I said alot on to keep us busy and I am not even getting started on the games cause they are to many to be listed.

[Sabrblade]

This is the correct order of each series release.

U.S.:

• G1 season 1
• G1 season 2
• G1 movie
• G1 season 3
• G1 season 4 A.K.A. The Rebirth
• G1 season 5 (reruns with a Powermaster Prime puppet telling the stories)
• G2 (again reruns but with added effects)
• Beast Wars season 1
• Beast Wars season 2
• Beast Wars season 3
• Beast Machines season 1
• Beast Machines season 2
• RiD
• Armada
• Energon
• Cybertron
• live movie
• Animated season 1
• Animated season 2

Then there's Animated season 3 and Revenge of the Fallen. We'll wait and see which one comes first.

In Japan it went like this:

• Tatakae! Cho Robot Seimeitai Transformers (Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers)
• Scramble City
• Tatakae! Cho Robot Seimeitai Transformers 2010 (Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers 2010, or just Transformers 2010)
• The Headmasters
• Chojin Master Force (Super-god Masterforce)
• Victory
• Zone
• G1 movie (don't know what it's called in Japan, but it's not called "Matrix Forever")
• Beast Wars Cho Seimeitai Transformers (Beast Wars Super Lifeform Transformers)
• Beast Wars II Cho Seimeitai Transformers ("", or just Beast Wars II)
• Beast Wars Special Super Lifeform Transformers (movie) (or just Beast Wars Special)
• Super Lifeform Transformers - Beast Wars Neo (or just Beast Wars Neo)
• Super Lifeform Transformers - Beast Wars Metals (or just Beast Wars Metals)
• Car Robots
• Micron Denetsu (or Micron Legend)
• Superlink
• RobotMasters (two dvds)
• Galaxy Force
• Beast Wars Returns
• Transformers (film)

And as for you're wondering about the G2 manga, here's how the G1/Beast Era would go with the mangas in:

• G1 seasons 1 & 2 and FSRLTF manga
• Scramble City
• G1 movie
• G1 season 3 and the two 2010 mangas
• The Headmasters & its manga (except for two chapters that contradict the show)
• Chojin Masterforce (its manga contradicts the show)
• Victory (its manga contradicts the show)
• Zone, its manga, and its story-pages
• Return of Convoy story pages & its manga "The Battlestars"
• Operation Combination story-pages
• G2 story-pages (its manga contradicts the story)
• Beast Wars seasons 1, 2, & 3 (Metals' manga contradicts the show)
• Beast Wars II (its manga contrdicts the show)
• Beast Wars Special
• Beast Wars Neo (its manga contradicts the show)
• Beast Machines seasons 1 & 2

There are many other manga series that could be listed as well, but that would take forever to list out, and this is good enough

[Rodimus2006]

Thanks for the info and clearing all that up for us.

Like I said they have been alot of Transformers here and over in Japan but mostly in Japan, mostly we just get the main-line of Transformers toons or the more popular ones.

The reason we got Animated 1st cause it is made here instead of Japan.


Now all we have to do is play the waiting game and tuff it out for the next-half year or so until Animated Season 3 is released.


Like I said it better live up to the hype, and give us the answers to all the questions we need answers to.

Like I said they are alot of unanswered stuff that need to be addressed in Animated S3. I mean I know that alot of them wont necessarily be answered.

But I hope the more important ones are Such as Sari Sumdac and what really happened to Optimus Prime in his Academy Years.

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

The reason we got Animated 1st cause it is made here instead of Japan.

That depends on what you mean by "made here".

Just like the G1 cartoon, Animated is being written in the U.S. [or where ever the writters are from] but the cartoon is being animated in Japan.

[Saber Prime]

In Japan it went like this:

• Tatakae! Cho Robot Seimeitai Transformers (Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers)
• Scramble City
• Tatakae! Cho Robot Seimeitai Transformers 2010 (Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers 2010, or just Transformers 2010)
• The Headmasters
• Chojin Master Force (Super-god Masterforce)
• Victory
• Zone
• G1 movie (don't know what it's called in Japan, but it's not called "Matrix Forever")
• Beast Wars Cho Seimeitai Transformers (Beast Wars Super Lifeform Transformers)
• Beast Wars II Cho Seimeitai Transformers ("", or just Beast Wars II)
• Beast Wars Special Super Lifeform Transformers (movie) (or just Beast Wars Special)
• Super Lifeform Transformers - Beast Wars Neo (or just Beast Wars Neo)
• Super Lifeform Transformers - Beast Wars Metals (or just Beast Wars Metals)
• Car Robots
• Micron Denetsu (or Micron Legend)
• Superlink
• RobotMasters (two dvds)
• Galaxy Force
• Beast Wars Returns
• Transformers (film)

And if you're wondering what each of these was in the U.S. because some of these actully were in the U.S. just with different titles.

Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers = Generation 1 seasons 1 and 2

Transformers 2010 = I belive is season 3 of G1

The Headmasters = What is a verry different version of what the Rebirth started before it was canceled in the U.S.

G1 Movie = Holly crap Japan does things out of order. That must of been confusing as hell to have 5 series or 5 seasons or some mix there of with story that doesn't take place till AFTER the movie.

Beast Wars Super Lifeform Transformers = Season 1 of Beast Wars.

Beast Wars Metals = Seasons 2 and 3 of Beast Wars. Apperently Japan split our Beast Wars series into two seperate series or we fused theirs togeather. One of the two.

Car Robots = R.I.D.

Micron Legend = Armada

Superlink = Energon

Galaxy Force = Cybertron allthough in the U.S. even though the story completly contridicts both Armada and Energon they use it as part of the Trilliy. The main reason the story doesn't fit is because it wasn't supose to, Japan made it as a seperate series.

Allso apperently both Airazor from Beast Wars and Override from Cybertron were male in Japan. The Airazor one I'm not sure how true that is because I read it on Wiki and I can't imagine her as a male unless she was portrayed as a gay. Her attitude in the way she walks just screams female.

Beast Wars Returns = Beast Machines and again Japan does things out of order this time showing 4 series that have absolutly NOTHING to do with the Beast Erra shows.

[Sabrblade]

The Headmasters = What is a verry different version of what the Rebirth started before it was canceled in the U.S.

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Galaxy Force = Cybertron allthough in the U.S. even though the story completly contridicts both Armada and Energon they use it as part of the Trilliy. The main reason the story doesn't fit is because it wasn't supose to, Japan made it as a seperate series.

Allso apperently both Airazor from Beast Wars and Override from Cybertron were male in Japan. The Airazor one I'm not sure how true that is because I read it on Wiki and I can't imagine her as a male unless she was portrayed as a gay. Her attitude in the way she walks just screams female.

We've been over this before. The Headmasters was made and aired before The Rebirth.

TF: Cybertron doesn't actually work well with Armada and Energon either. Sure they inserted stuff about Unicron, but things like Optimus clearly stating that he's never seen two Transformers combine together before makes Cybertron contradict Armada and Energon too. After all, Optimus in Armada and Energon has combined with Jetfire, Overload, Wing Saber, and Omega Supreme; not to mention that combining was one of the main focuses of Energon.

And as for Airazor and Override, Airazor was made male for some odd reason. About her (his) relationship with Tigatron, they changed Tigatron from down-to-earth to a samurai. So, they tried to make their relationship more like a master & apprentice one, but "Other Visits, Part 1" clearly still made them look gay.

Override (Nitro Convoy) was originally male in Galaxy Force. It was the U.S. dub that changed his (her) gender to female. And it surprisingly worked out. In the original, Nitro Convoy treated Lori with politeness, with Override and Lori had more a "big sisiter/little sister" relationship. so it works out perfect in both versions.