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[Shadowman]

Optimus was gonna gun down the defenseless Megatron. Hypocrite.

It's not hypocritical. There's a huge difference between a defenseless lifeform and Megatron. Because defenseless or otherwise, he's still Megatron, and his continued existence is a bad thing for Earth and the Autobots.

Megatron is a lifeform, and he was completely at Optimus's mercy in that instant. Optimus said that he doesn't condone the very actions he was considering doing. It's all part of his character development (finally, he gets some!).

No, Megatron is still Megatron. Even if Optimus doesn't tolerate executing defenseless and unarmed prisoners, he also can't tolerate Megatron's continued existence. Especially since Megatron's death would heavily shift the balance of the war to the Autobots favor.

Optimus wasn't being a hypocrite; his rule against executing defenseless prisoners just makes an exception for the one who started the war that destroyed his home world and killed most of the people he knew.

[njb902]

I agree with shadowman, but for a slightly different reason. Megatron can never be considered defenseless unless he has no arms, legs, and has spent all his munitions. Hell I bet he would kill with his frigging teeth if that's all he had left.

Now then.....this episode was fantastic, it had action and a good plot. I liked how they paced the action out, especially the Megs and insecticon fight it was so hyper fast.

Saberblade I don't think Dreadwing had a Gatling last episode either, believe it was the same pulse cannon.

So does it look like to anyone else that we are getting a 5th faction in the bugs?

[Noideaforaname]

Saying "absolutely NO killing of any defenseless lifeform" and then going to kill a defenseless lifeform IS hypocritical, no matter how you slice it. Optimus did not agree with killing a defenseless Starscream, despite the fact he'll probably cause trouble down the road. Optimus killing a defenseless Megatron because he'll probably cause trouble down the road runs counter to Optimus's mantra, and thus makes him a hypocrite.

This whole business reminds me unpleasantly of DotM's ending... Hopefully Prime plans on some character growth with this.

[Shockwave7]

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm getting kind of sick of the TF Prime writers' slobbering love affair with Airachnid. It was fine for the first couple of appearances, but having her able to destroy Knockout and nearly destroy Megatron? That's just getting ridiculous. Only with the writers' help could she possibly be this uber - for example:

1) She seems able to effortlessly dodge vast barrages of laser fire. It's like watching the old GI Joe cartoon when the Joes were being shot at with innumberable blasters, and NONE of them ever hit anything. It isn't any more believable with Airachnid than it was for them. Autobot or Decepticon, no one seems able to lay a finger on her. These are supposed to be elite troopers and crack shots and we're supposed to believe none of them know how to shoot, but only if it's her? Feh!

2) 'Oh gee, she went underground - we'll never catch her now!' Really, TF writers. Really. She's pulled the 'my spindly limbs can bore through solid rock' gag what - a dozen times now? And NONE of the other tformers have anticipated it? Every time she gets in anything even vaguely resembling a pinch, it's a couple seconds drilling and everyone else just stands around with their mouths open. 'Daaah! She go underground! We not see nothing like THAT before!' As many times as she's pulled that trick, Arcee should be totally on the spot, throwing grenades in the hole or filling the hole with lasers. (I'll set aside the fact that it's unrealistic for Airachnid to be able to drill so fast that she can be out of gun range in less than a second)

3) Webbing. So now her webbing can block Megatron's FUSION CANNON? Looks like the writers can also use it to jump sharks. And one STRAND of her webbing is impossible for Breakdown to snap? And holding ONE of his arms renders him totally helpless to stop Airachnid from dismembering him? The writers have been using the webbing as a dues ex machina for too long now. Arcee was able to break out when she was covered with it, but Dreadwing can't? A blast from Megatron's fusion cannon can blow through a giant Unicron drone's head, but it can't blast through a thin sheet of webbing?

So far the only attempt by the writers to humble Airachnid was the drubbing she got from Soundwave. So does that mean Soundwave is the most powerful of all the Transformers? Because no one else seems to be able to fight her, at least not the way the writers have been writing her lately.

And now they just let her stumble into a hive filled with gazillions of Insecticons. And of course, the writers will have her effortlessly take over the whole hive and they'll just roll over and make her their queen. They'll probably also fill them with dark energon, making them totally indestructible, and overrun the whole planet.

Yeesh. Why didn't the writers just make HER megatron and get it over with?

[njb902]

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm getting kind of sick of the TF Prime writers' slobbering love affair with Airachnid. It was fine for the first couple of appearances, but having her able to destroy Knockout and nearly destroy Megatron? That's just getting ridiculous. Only with the writers' help could she possibly be this uber - for example:

1) She seems able to effortlessly dodge vast barrages of laser fire. It's like watching the old GI Joe cartoon when the Joes were being shot at with innumberable blasters, and NONE of them ever hit anything. It isn't any more believable with Airachnid than it was for them. Autobot or Decepticon, no one seems able to lay a finger on her. These are supposed to be elite troopers and crack shots and we're supposed to believe none of them know how to shoot, but only if it's her? Feh!

2) 'Oh gee, she went underground - we'll never catch her now!' Really, TF writers. Really. She's pulled the 'my spindly limbs can bore through solid rock' gag what - a dozen times now? And NONE of the other tformers have anticipated it? Every time she gets in anything even vaguely resembling a pinch, it's a couple seconds drilling and everyone else just stands around with their mouths open. 'Daaah! She go underground! We not see nothing like THAT before!' As many times as she's pulled that trick, Arcee should be totally on the spot, throwing grenades in the hole or filling the hole with lasers. (I'll set aside the fact that it's unrealistic for Airachnid to be able to drill so fast that she can be out of gun range in less than a second)

3) Webbing. So now her webbing can block Megatron's FUSION CANNON? Looks like the writers can also use it to jump sharks. And one STRAND of her webbing is impossible for Breakdown to snap? And holding ONE of his arms renders him totally helpless to stop Airachnid from dismembering him? The writers have been using the webbing as a dues ex machina for too long now. Arcee was able to break out when she was covered with it, but Dreadwing can't? A blast from Megatron's fusion cannon can blow through a giant Unicron drone's head, but it can't blast through a thin sheet of webbing?

So far the only attempt by the writers to humble Airachnid was the drubbing she got from Soundwave. So does that mean Soundwave is the most powerful of all the Transformers? Because no one else seems to be able to fight her, at least not the way the writers have been writing her lately.

And now they just let her stumble into a hive filled with gazillions of Insecticons. And of course, the writers will have her effortlessly take over the whole hive and they'll just roll over and make her their queen. They'll probably also fill them with dark energon, making them totally indestructible, and overrun the whole planet.

Yeesh. Why didn't the writers just make HER megatron and get it over with?

I don't even know where to begin here so ill do it by bullet point.

1. She is a elite warrior as well why would it surprise you she is a fearsome opponent, plus breakdown went on his own like an idiot.

2. If it works it works. why should she not use a technique that apparently effective. although I agree about the not shooting at the outset of her using it.

3. Try firing a gun with a blocked barrel, please really try it.

As for not making her megs....well she isn't megs so um..

[njb902]

sorry about not fixing the title back.

[Sabrblade]

3) Webbing. So now her webbing can block Megatron's FUSION CANNON? Looks like the writers can also use it to jump sharks. And one STRAND of her webbing is impossible for Breakdown to snap? And holding ONE of his arms renders him totally helpless to stop Airachnid from dismembering him? The writers have been using the webbing as a dues ex machina for too long now. Arcee was able to break out when she was covered with it, but Dreadwing can't? A blast from Megatron's fusion cannon can blow through a giant Unicron drone's head, but it can't blast through a thin sheet of webbing?

That was NOT her webbing that caught his arm! That was a pair of web-like cables that MECH shot in an attempt to capture a Con. Notice Airachnid's surprised looks when she sees his arm stuck? MECH inadvertently gave Airachnid the opening she needed to to strike a fatal impaling upon Breakdown.

So far the only attempt by the writers to humble Airachnid was the drubbing she got from Soundwave. So does that mean Soundwave is the most powerful of all the Transformers? Because no one else seems to be able to fight her, at least not the way the writers have been writing her lately.

She lost a spider limb to Dreadwing and Breakdown this episode, and she was dragging herself away from both of them while injured. Like I said, MECH inadvertently aided her when Breakdown got got in their trap.

[R3-T7]

I thought that Optimus putting his gun to Megatron's head was one of the best moments in the episode. While I agree that he was being hypocritical, he was also being rational. The Cybertronians are at war, and Megatron has killed countless Autobots, especially if the War for Cybertron video games are considered. I love the fact that Transformers Prime's Optimus Prime is more complex then just "Mr. Perfect". It makes him feel like an actual leader and warrior, rather than just a run of the mill superhero. Plus the fact that he says one thing and then does another makes him less predictable and open to folly or even corruption, thus he becomes a much more interesting character.

[Scourgescream]

hat was NOT her webbing that caught his arm! That was a pair of web-like cables that MECH shot in an attempt to capture a Con. Notice Airachnid's surprised looks when she sees his arm stuck?

I thought that MECH just happened to be in the area on manoeuvres and lucked upon Breakdowns remains. I could be wrong but it was just one piece of webbing not two and i thought it was the Insecticon's webbing, but i'm not sure

[Aximalli_Prime]

My only question is: where was Wheeljack the whole time? They made a point of showing that he was staying on Earth last episode.