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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:51 pm

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Bubbah wrote:Oh I know, but even with other dimensions, etc it can still get extremely confusing. So I really hope they don't ever go that route. I'm perfectly content on them keeping everything seperate :)
but thta's exactly how everything IS separate: Other realities. If they weren't all separate, everything would be in one world, which is what we don't want.

Right, which is fine. What I'm hoping never happens is them trying to join them together by having characters travel into the other realities and doing crossovers.
I never said or meant to imply that. All I said was them "looking" at other worlds and simply acknowledging their existence as such.

Besides, the comics have already done those kinds of dimension-hopping stories. Some are cool and some are not. I just think that a cartoon giving some kind of recognition to the multiverse (while not necessarily with anyone traversing the dimensions but simply looking at them) would be cool.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby That Bot » Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:06 am

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Once again, I'm a bit late due to a busy weekend.
*The Omega Key is literally inside Smokescreen. That's an interesting resolution, I was thinking he was actually built as the key. But uh....wouldn't that mess with his internal workings? If you stuck a ruler inside a person's abdomen, I'm assuming that would cause some health concerns? Am I overthinking this?
*Knock Out starts acting like he's going to dissect Smokescreen. BRUTAL. Then he chuckles and turns on the phase shifter, and pulls the key out. Still pretty gruesome-looking.
*Smokescreen grabs the Phase Shifter to phase his way out of the restraints, snatches it off Knock Out, grabs the key, and makes a chase. Fancy. Ultimately he grabs the other key and Knock Out gets stuck in the wall like Han Solo in frozen carbonite. Except conscious. So.....did the wall where his torso is just disappear? Because if it's still there, it should bisect him and you'd have a Knock Out in several pieces. Oh well, can't go QUITE that far with a kids' show.
*Meanwhile, Starscream sets his plan in motion. He uses the last of the red energon and his doppelganger to lure out the Autobots, sneak in their Groundbridge, and find and steal the Omega Keys. FANTASTIC and GORGEOUS animation in this segment. When he triggers the emergency sprinklers, and is running around in suspended water, WOW. Unfortunately his speed boost wears off just as he gets out. And here I'm thinking he should have killed Arcee and everybody inside FIRST instead of risking discovery like he did and missing his chance. But we like our Autobots better alive. Did anybody catch what Optimus was saying in super-slow motion there?
*Starscream offers the keys to Megatron. How did he get aboard? Did he replace his T-Cog on his own after all? Did he groundbridge aboard when it's been previously established that he has no idea where it is at a given time? I agree with the previous person about leverage. Prove you have the keys, but don't bring them with you or Megatron will just be tempted to kill you and take them for himself.

*Megatron throwing Vehicons: Poor Steve. That was a funny bit, though. And a brick joke when he landed.
*The idea of opening a groundbridge beneath Smokescreen is an interesting one. It would redirect his momentum to be parallel to the ground so he could ultimately roll to a stop or something. Given the limited space between the console and the bridge, I think he'd probably run into it and damage it, though. But that issue is averted when he's thrown off course and uses the phase shifter to magically phase through the ground. This suggests that the grounding is literally on one's feet, but then he should still get his feet stuck when the rest of him phases through.....SO MANY ISSUES. And assuming that wasn't an issue, why didn't he just fall through the Earth until he got to the very core of Unicron? If, somehow, being on a plateau was observable by the phase shifter, he should still have been smashed to pieces when he hit the actual "ground" level. Maybe solid objects act like liquid or something when you're phasing so he was able to decelerate safely? THERE ARE SO MANY PHYSICS QUESTIONS RAISED BY THIS OBJECT.

Yet I still love the show. How many episodes do we have left? 2?
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby PrymeStriker » Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:43 am

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That Bot wrote:Yet I still love the show. How many episodes do we have left? 2?


Patch, Regeneration, and Darkest Hour is what we have left. Three.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:04 am

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That Bot wrote:*The Omega Key is literally inside Smokescreen. That's an interesting resolution, I was thinking he was actually built as the key. But uh....wouldn't that mess with his internal workings? If you stuck a ruler inside a person's abdomen, I'm assuming that would cause some health concerns? Am I overthinking this?
Secret compartment, perhaps?

So secret even he didn't know about it. :P

That Bot wrote:And here I'm thinking he should have killed Arcee and everybody inside FIRST instead of risking discovery like he did and missing his chance.
Business before pleasure, I guess.

Plus, wasn't Arcee keeping her arm on the level to not only close it when told to, but to keep it open at first? He he killed her, the lever might have started falling on its own, thus closing the portal and leaving Starscream stuck inside the base.

That Bot wrote:*Starscream offers the keys to Megatron. How did he get aboard? Did he replace his T-Cog on his own after all? Did he groundbridge aboard when it's been previously established that he has no idea where it is at a given time?
That's only the Autobots who couldn't track the Nemesis. Starscream, however, could track the ship's movements with the Harbinger's equipment. And since he had access to a GroundBridge, he must have Bridge'd there.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby PrymeStriker » Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:55 am

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Hmm. I'd love TFP Jazz & Perceptor. I hope the rumors hinted at NYCC are true about that. :P

Don't know about Perceptor, but Jazz better look like this:

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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Shadowman » Mon Oct 15, 2012 1:15 pm

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That Bot wrote:THERE ARE SO MANY PHYSICS QUESTIONS RAISED BY THIS OBJECT.


It's an object in a kids show that lets you walk through walls, don't try to over-think it.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby That Bot » Mon Oct 15, 2012 1:35 pm

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I can't help it, it's a step above my willing suspension of disbelief when the phase is cancelled before you finish passing through an object and no ill consequence is experienced beyond not being able to move.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Shadowman » Mon Oct 15, 2012 1:50 pm

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That Bot wrote:I can't help it, it's a step above my willing suspension of disbelief when the phase is cancelled before you finish passing through an object and no ill consequence is experienced beyond not being able to move.


That was Shadowcat from X-Men's favorite ability. But if your suspension of disbelief wasn't shattered at "Wristband that allows giant talking robots from space to walk through walls" then "Getting stuck in a wall" should still be okay.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby That Bot » Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:41 pm

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I'm willing to suspend belief on phasing itself because I'm willing to accept that they become temporarily intangible, and I don't care about how, as long as nothing is existing in the same space as the wall or whatever is being passed through at a given time. When that stops being the case, i.e. the phase is stopped before Knock Out is all the way through the wall, he becomes solid again and he is existing in the same place as the wall. Giant talking robots from space that can turn into cars and trucks and have a device that makes them intangible? Sure, fine, why not. Giant talking robots from space that can turn into cars and trucks and can exist in the same place as solid objects without being intangible or causing some kind of damage to either object or robot? Get outta here! :P
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby PrymeStriker » Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:43 pm

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When has a cartoon followed the laws of physics?
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