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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Shadowman » Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:45 am

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Rodimus2006 wrote:Remember Scream was also after the Omega Keys & The Omega Lock, Scream also probably knows alot about them he probably figures working with Megatrom for the time being could work to his advantage.


Yeah. He stole them so he could give them to Megatron, buying his way back into the Decepticons. Not like it even matters anymore, seeing as the Omega Lock was destroyed.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby That Bot » Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:10 am

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I figure, Starscream's always gonna be Starscream, but right now he is going to play Megatron's loyal pet because he had to fight to earn his way back into the Decepticon ranks and being rogue didn't work too well for him. He's still going to scheme, but there will have to be a PERFECT opportunity before he tries to betray Megatron again. Megs didn't hesitate to kill Dreadwing, he won't hesitate to do the same to Starscream if he's (openly) traitorous.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Henry921 » Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:50 am

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That Bot wrote:I figure, Starscream's always gonna be Starscream


'Nuff said.

Yet, to pontificate further... there's a great line from Agent Fowler describing Starscream in "Grill":


"He really needs to figure out if it's Megatron's job he wants, or Megatron's approval."


Starscream's always been self interested and scheming, but his need for positive attention can be satiated both as leader and by receiving praise from Megatron, whom he may despise, but he has always respected, if only because of his sheer power. Starscream's more servile attitude at the end of Season 2 is almost certainly fake, but his genuine emotion at being left in command of the Nemesis and entrusted with difficult tasks by Megatron probably isn't.

My guess is he'll continue to be the loyal soldier for a few eps in Season 3 until he either screws something up or Megs starts laying praise on someone else (like Shockwave or Predaking), and he loses that positive attention and schemes again.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Jan 07, 2013 1:23 pm

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Honestly, is it so hard to believe that a Starscream could learn its lesson and actually try to get on its Megatron's good side? Prime Starscream openly admitted to himself that he was better off serving under Megatron than he was either trying to overthrow him or out on his own. And Megatron's killing Dreadwing--his most LOYAL servant--to save Starscream ought to have been an eyeopener to Starscream that, should Starscream make any attempts to defy his master, Megatron would not hesitate to kill him. This Starscream has been at his lowest point and has matured into a smarter and wiser Con, knowing that his place is best served with Megatron at Megatron's side, rather than against him. It is far better for Starscream to strive to become Megatron's "heir" than his "usurper".
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby PrymeStriker » Mon Jan 07, 2013 1:28 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Honestly, is it so hard to believe that a Starscream could learn its lesson and actually try to get on its Megatron's good side?


I think it's because people are used to a scheming, undermining Starscream as apposed to a loyal one.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby That Bot » Mon Jan 07, 2013 3:58 pm

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I'm sure he's learned his lesson: he's learned that Megatron is a force to be reckoned with and will not tolerate any hint of insubordination. I doubt it's changed his scheming, devious nature, however. Which leads me to the conclusion that he is probably playing the loyal servant as long as it's beneficial to him. He would love to be commander of the Decepticons proper, and if an opportunity arises, I expect he will take it. Until then, he's biding his time.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Shadowman » Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:24 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Honestly, is it so hard to believe that a Starscream could learn its lesson and actually try to get on its Megatron's good side?


Not for me it isn't. He outright admitted he was okay with serving under Megatron, and when he did go rogue, it was because Starscream thought that he was the one who had been betrayed.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus2006 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:16 am

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If Scream really wants to solify his position he could show Megatron the effects of Red Energon which grants you super speed where it makes others around you seem to remain still. Similar towards the movie Clockstoppers but that was a Watch not Red Energon.

But I think Scream will keep Red Energon in his pocket for the time being I dont think he would reveal his newest weapon and have Megatron use it against him.

Megatron is just out for Megtron he uses his soldiers to accomplish his goals & his goals alone. His followers are expendable Dreadwing Found this out the hardway & utlimately Dreadwings Blind Loyatly destroyed him in the end.

Scream has is own goals he just hasnt shown them, right now hw is a Full Team player. What is deal is will not be revealed until way later in the seasons.

Me, I am more curious about the type of role Shockwave will play and will it be a Powerstruggle between the 3 Shockwave, Megatron maybe then Scream will reveal his scheme.

They are alot of factors the remain unknown in Prime I love that the mystery, the deal that keeps me wanting more. Shockwave, The Dinobots 1 or All I dont really care, Shockwave, Prime has alot of deals to cram into 16 episodes compared to 26 episodes.

Stll I believe the writers behind Prime know what they are doing I cant wait for S3 to air I will watch it right then no matter the time. Hopefully Prime will retain its usual time slot.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Shadowman » Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:19 am

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Rodimus2006 wrote:But I think Scream will keep Red Energon in his pocket for the time being I dont think he would reveal his newest weapon and have Megatron use it against him.


Except he doesn't have any left. He only had two doses, and he used them both to steal the Omega Keys for Megatron.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus2006 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:56 am

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You never could tell Shadowman there could be other deposits of Red Energon still hidden on Earth. Also the makers of Prime said they will be more colors of Energon brought into Prime We have seen a couple of those each have their own abilites, Purple, Green, Red, And Blue, each have a diffrent Effect.

I would like to see Yellow, Orange, and White Engergon maybe Black Energon, each of these Energons could be used as a Tool, to heal or have unique powers. Some could Freeze Time, Some could give you Enhanced Strength, Some could Teleport or give you the Ability to Teleport. Unknown we have to wait to see what the new colors will do and which colors they will be.

I hope more stuff from the past will be used but will be its own deal I like this about Prime its uses things from the Past but it also puts its own spin and makes it new & unique such as the Omega Keys & Lock werent anything like the Omega Key in Transformers Cybertron.

Also I still think Predakings colors is exactly like Scourge in Cybertron he was also Orange & Black also 3 Heads but this was just cause of the Cyberplanet Key.

Shockwave I think would be cool if he was a mix of DOTM with some classic G1 details molded into a Prime version of him.
While his Alt.Mode would be a Cybertronian Tank.
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