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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Snowy » Tue May 22, 2012 12:25 am

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Sabrblade wrote:Like the Dinobots, Shockwave's the guy behind the Insecticons this time. ;)

Ah. Much obliged, Saber. Yes, silly me. Monstrous, animalistic killing machines? Of course Soundwave was behind it.


Shockwave. Shockwave. Different character entirely. Not even remotely related to Soundwave.

GAH! You're right, thank you. So used to typing Soundwave that I just punched it in when I needed a name with an S. Those two still have such annoyingly similar names. But yes, Shockwave would be our favorite mad scientist. Soundwave is more like the creepy guy at work that everyone tries to avoid.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Snowy » Tue May 22, 2012 12:26 am

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Sabrblade wrote:Like the Dinobots, Shockwave's the guy behind the Insecticons this time. ;)

Ah. Much obliged, Saber. Yes, silly me. Monstrous, animalistic killing machines? Of course Soundwave was behind it.


Shockwave. Shockwave. Different character entirely. Not even remotely related to Soundwave.

GAH! You're right, thank you. So used to typing Soundwave that I just punched it in when I needed a name with an S. Those two still have such annoyingly similar names. But yes, Shockwave would be our favorite mad scientist. Soundwave is more like the creepy guy at work that everyone tries to avoid.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Psychodrome » Tue May 22, 2012 9:11 pm

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My thoughts on PRIME:

I really want to see what Mech does with Breakdown and Silas, I'm mainly hoping they build something original and at least paint it green.

I think they dealt with Airachnid too quickly. That whole hive discovery scene was so epic that it could have easily been the season finale, or at least been part of it in some way...

I'm cool with the Insecticons, but I'd like to see an individual design variant, maybe a general that transforms into a different insect.

We still have David Kaye and James Remar in the voice cast. I hope they are voicing transformers of some type. Also, it would be nice to have these relics add up to something important, I mean it has to right? I imagine that is how they are planning to end this season.

Optimus Prime aside from his combat badassery, is a bit too stoic to the point of being boring. I prefer his movie Prime, because he had more emotion, even losing his temper at one point. I'm not saying he should be like that, but maybe a little more relatable.

Megatron is great, but kind of a jerk, which I suppose he should be. I really don't see why the other Decepticons follow him other than out of fear. There is a difference between the BW Megz and this one. I prefer the BW version. Evil, smart, but kinda likeable....Welker still gives him a great voice. It's just him being so ready to execute his soldiers when they screw up that bugs me. Not the smartest idea when you're at war, but if it's a scare tactic, then I retract my previous statement.

In conclusion, I hope that Hasbro gets some of that DOTM box office gross and gives it to Polygon Studios so they can make the show larger and give it more scope, akin to Clone Wars. More human characters, see the kids in school with other kids(great tie-in for future episodes) more environments, more transformers, more win.......
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue May 22, 2012 9:19 pm

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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby crazyjeffy » Tue May 22, 2012 9:34 pm

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Psychodrome wrote:My thoughts on PRIME:

I really want to see what Mech does with Breakdown and Silas, I'm mainly hoping they build something original and at least paint it green.

I think they dealt with Airachnid too quickly. That whole hive discovery scene was so epic that it could have easily been the season finale, or at least been part of it in some way...

I'm cool with the Insecticons, but I'd like to see an individual design variant, maybe a general that transforms into a different insect.

We still have David Kaye and James Remar in the voice cast. I hope they are voicing transformers of some type. Also, it would be nice to have these relics add up to something important, I mean it has to right? I imagine that is how they are planning to end this season.

Optimus Prime aside from his combat badassery, is a bit too stoic to the point of being boring. I prefer his movie Prime, because he had more emotion, even losing his temper at one point. I'm not saying he should be like that, but maybe a little more relatable.

Megatron is great, but kind of a jerk, which I suppose he should be. I really don't see why the other Decepticons follow him other than out of fear. There is a difference between the BW Megz and this one. I prefer the BW version. Evil, smart, but kinda likeable....Welker still gives him a great voice. It's just him being so ready to execute his soldiers when they screw up that bugs me. Not the smartest idea when you're at war, but if it's a scare tactic, then I retract my previous statement.

In conclusion, I hope that Hasbro gets some of that DOTM box office gross and gives it to Polygon Studios so they can make the show larger and give it more scope, akin to Clone Wars. More human characters, see the kids in school with other kids(great tie-in for future episodes) more environments, more transformers, more win.......



I gotta say that my opinions are entirely opposite yours here except for paragraphs 3 and 6 :laugh:

I think Prime Optimus and Megatron are my favorite incarnations and I want Silas to just use breakdown's body. I really like that character model :/
Also, I just really really hate Airachnid.


On a side note:

Is it Knock Out or Knockout? I've seen both multiple times.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Snowy » Tue May 22, 2012 9:45 pm

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In order.

Psychodrome wrote:My thoughts on PRIME:

I really want to see what Mech does with Breakdown and Silas, I'm mainly hoping they build something original and at least paint it green.

I don't know about green, but I'm more apprehensive than hopeful. The writers could go so many directions with this, and the stunt itself definitely caught me off-guard anyway. I have no idea what to expect except it's going to be big.

Psychodrome wrote:I think they dealt with Airachnid too quickly. That whole hive discovery scene was so epic that it could have easily been the season finale, or at least been part of it in some way...

Her stasis did feel a bit rushed in my opinion. They probably could have written it into a less eventful episode so her whole attack on the Nemesis would have more precedence. That episode was great but had too much going on in my opinion. Then again, these guys are already pressed for time as it is. It wasn't the smoothest move, but it's not too big of an upset, and it still leaves them wiggle room with Airachnid.


Psychodrome wrote:I'm cool with the Insecticons, but I'd like to see an individual design variant, maybe a general that transforms into a different insect.

We have Hardshell who is slightly different I believe. Keep in mind that it's a lot of work to make individual models and transformation sequences. Yes, they could have embellished more on the Hardshell design, but they had to not only go with Hasbro's word-of-god dictation but deadlines and budgets as well. I'm not too concerned with this slight cutting of corners.


Psychodrome wrote:We still have David Kaye and James Remar in the voice cast. I hope they are voicing transformers of some type. Also, it would be nice to have these relics add up to something important, I mean it has to right? I imagine that is how they are planning to end this season.

Well you don't just find a Spark Extractor during a war and let it collect dust on a shelf. The Resonance Blaster seems like it'll see use from Soundwave at least. And I'm pretty sure those guys will voice transformers. I've heard rumors of Kaye voicing Hardshell.


Psychodrome wrote:Optimus Prime aside from his combat badassery, is a bit too stoic to the point of being boring. I prefer his movie Prime, because he had more emotion, even losing his temper at one point. I'm not saying he should be like that, but maybe a little more relatable.

Actually, Prime's Prime is my favorite Prime out of all the Primes. He's by far the most fatherly and he just exudes this aura of authority. He's the kind of Prime that you'd feel awful for letting down; like a favorite teacher at school or something. He's a leader figure that is the direct foil of Megatron. Where the Autobots follow willingly and with full trust in Prime, the Decepticons only follow by fear or blind loyalty to a cause long since forgotten. Which brings us to:


Psychodrome wrote:Megatron is great, but kind of a jerk, which I suppose he should be. I really don't see why the other Decepticons follow him other than out of fear. There is a difference between the BW Megz and this one. I prefer the BW version. Evil, smart, but kinda likeable....Welker still gives him a great voice. It's just him being so ready to execute his soldiers when they screw up that bugs me. Not the smartest idea when you're at war, but if it's a scare tactic, then I retract my previous statement.

I really liked Animated's Megatron. Smart, patient, cunning, and practically untouchable in battle. He was a Megatron that was dangerous without a shadow of a doubt, but you admired him for being so successful in his endeavor simply because he's so smooth and confident. Prime's Megatron is, in a word, absolutely bat-slag insane. He's terrifying to both the Autobots and his troops. It's his unpredictability and excessively violent behavior that puts you on edge. Will he terminate someone for failing or simply beat them within an inch of their life? Will he let them off the hook? Not only is it unpredictable for us, but for the troops as well-- and I can guarantee you that they're a lot more terrified than we are. With BW Megs you could negotiate, squirm away, or at least survive. Prime Megs is the embodiment of unyielding wrath and obsessive determination.

Psychodrome wrote:In conclusion, I hope that Hasbro gets some of that DOTM box office gross and gives it to Polygon Studios so they can make the show larger and give it more scope, akin to Clone Wars. More human characters, see the kids in school with other kids(great tie-in for future episodes) more environments, more transformers, more win.......

Yes I want them to get a bigger budget. NO I don't want to see the kids in school. I AM a kid in school! Why show the ordinary when the extraordinary is so much more interesting. More transformers is a definite YES. More character development and display of depth? YES!!!

Heh. I know it's all your opinion. Not trying to prove anything or tear into you, so sorry if you got that impression. I tend to get carried away with my musings ^^;

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crazyjeffy wrote:On a side note:

Is it Knock Out or Knockout? I've seen both multiple times.

Knockout seem to be more of a fanon spelling. I've usually seen official sources use Knock Out, so that's what I go with.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby YRQRM0 » Thu May 24, 2012 10:45 pm

I just realized, what kind of order are these episodes supposed to be told in? Idk how to say that....but basically, how can Dreadwing, AND Knock Out be back at the ship, without BB and Arcee, OR Prime not be back at the base? Why would they stay any longer at the location?
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

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YRQRM0 wrote:I just realized, what kind of order are these episodes supposed to be told in? Idk how to say that....but basically, how can Dreadwing, AND Knock Out be back at the ship, without BB and Arcee, OR Prime not be back at the base? Why would they stay any longer at the location?

Knock Out JUST got back, remember he fled after getting run over by the train. Bee and Arcee stayed a little longer in NYC to attend to things. As for Prime.....maybe he's attending to something else while he's out and about.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Shadowman » Thu May 24, 2012 11:00 pm

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YRQRM0 wrote:I just realized, what kind of order are these episodes supposed to be told in? Idk how to say that....but basically, how can Dreadwing, AND Knock Out be back at the ship, without BB and Arcee, OR Prime not be back at the base? Why would they stay any longer at the location?

Knock Out JUST got back, remember he fled after getting run over by the train. Bee and Arcee stayed a little longer in NYC to attend to things. As for Prime.....maybe he's attending to something else while he's out and about.


I assume they're dealing with clean-up, or to make sure the area is secure, no extra Vehicons or Insecticons running about.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Hypershock » Sat May 26, 2012 7:38 pm

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I'm cool with the Insecticons, but I'd like to see an individual design variant, maybe a general that transforms into a different insect.

We still have David Kaye and James Remar in the voice cast. I hope they are voicing transformers of some type. Also, it would be nice to have these relics add up to something important, I mean it has to right? I imagine that is how they are planning to end this season.

Optimus Prime aside from his combat badassery, is a bit too stoic to the point of being boring. I prefer his movie Prime, because he had more emotion, even losing his temper at one point. I'm not saying he should be like that, but maybe a little more relatable.

Megatron is great, but kind of a jerk, which I suppose he should be. I really don't see why the other Decepticons follow him other than out of fear. There is a difference between the BW Megz and this one. I prefer the BW version. Evil, smart, but kinda likeable....Welker still gives him a great voice. It's just him being so ready to execute his soldiers when they screw up that bugs me. Not the smartest idea when you're at war, but if it's a scare tactic, then I retract my previous statement.

In conclusion, I hope that Hasbro gets some of that DOT im M box office gross and gives it to Polygon Studios so they can make the show larger and give it more scope, akin to Clone Wars. More human characters, see the kids in school with other kids(great tie-in for future episodes) more environments, more transformers, more win.......


This show is effectively Transformers' answer to the Clone Wars. I like Star Wars better than transformers, but honestly i like Prime as a series better than the Clone Wars, because IMO prime took less time to click. The Clone Wars is my favorite era of star wars mythology but i think this show did it better.

As far as optimus and megatron go, Optimus actually has made some progress. He got a lot more aggressive. I think this was the story they wanted to tell with the movies, because Optimus wasn't that bad in TF1, but in Rotf he was just psychopathic. I think they wanna show how he gets to this level this time. As far as Megatron, i get this vibe of an old military commander that's not quite insane, but he has so many ticks and manic states that he almost is. My absolute favorite moment for him is in Orion Pax part 3, where he says "I shall never underestimate you again" and he goes to stop the Autobots. He just takes down all the Autobots plus OP and just waits for Arcee. She comes through so he takes her out and assumes cuz she's Cybertronian she has the Key. Just the look on his face when he noticed Jack, i loved it cuz it was like oooooo shit i messed up run run get him now.

With David Kaye, i think he confimred on his twitter that he is hardshell :grin: But i think we've widely acknowledged that James Remar was a typo when they actually meant James Horan, the voice of Wheeljack. Although i wouldnt mind him on the show! ;)
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