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[Bubbah]

Lol that was awesome! Loved the episode and that falling Vehicon ... Hilarious! So glad they showed him go pop, while still screaming haha. Smokescreen once again fails to disappoint.

[Noideaforaname]

- Megatron's got serious butterfingers.
- His transformation is no different despite the change of arms (and notable loss of cannon)
- Vehicon toss still one of my favorite TF scenes!
- The Vehicons just fell apart like a house of cards. I know they got hit hard, but still...
- I kinda disappointed Smokescreen didn't fall straight on thru to Unicron.
- Not sure how he "landed." Phasing thru solid rock softens the landing, I guess? Meh. Also perplexed as to how a ground bridge would help.
- Slow-motion perspective is kinda weird.
- With how often Airachnid gets referenced I'm expecting something to happen with her.
- Starscream is great, like he always is, but he actually succeeds with something!

[Shadowman]

I can't decide if it's cute or sad that Prime feels it has to explain logical gaffes many, many episodes after they first occur (Fowler's lack of a flight suit, how the Phase-Shifter works with the ground, etc).

To be fair, the explanations are written before anyone has a chance to complain.

Best part of the episode: Not Steve transforming mid-air to show Megatron threw the wrong flavor of Vehicon, it's Steve hitting the ground a couple minutes later, after you're probably not thinking about it anymore.

[G1 Smoketreader]

INSIDE JOB:

The key inside Smokey, Then 5 more: Alpha Trion on Smokey, Smoke in the ship, Starscream in the base, Knockout in the wall and the cortical patch. One more failed job with Starscreams' null and void request for an operation to replace his T-Cog (which he might end up in the position to request from the Deceps shortly. Might be another inside job in the mid term if Scream tries to topple Dreadwing.

Camera work was very good.I felt as if I was watching the different departments working for each other and I REALLY liked that. Respect.

Megs is imposing with his new forearm playing the role of silent reminder; Smoke is counterparting that with action, Starscream with conniving. Good polarity but still textbook.

The falling Vehicon: an oldie, reformatted into TF storytelling language, but a goodie. I would personally be interested to see more of this type of humor from Megz- throwing folks into FUBAR and whatnot. I wonder why he didn't immediately give chase himself?

I'm unappreciative of the fact that Smokescreen is overshadowing the other Autobots. I understand that he was cut off from them in this episode but his flaws are in place tho not being used so much except as a story driver.

Regarding the G1 rewrite:
I like what EVERYBODY said in response, but I will continue to observe the designation of 'Generation one' as a group in this timeline as an official rehashing of who and what G1 are. As such I will continue to observe each reintroduced G1 character as something that is being treated with a degree of care, consideration and so on. Where, when and how (and for how long) each one appears affects each other character in my book. Either way, this continuity was put together partly so that all fans of different eras can have common footing. I see and hear what you are all saying but haven't been convinced yet to completely adopt one of your views.

RE: Smokescreen as Dinobot:
Here, your responses were even more insightful, but I see a 'code of Hero' in this Smokescreen.It's his OWN code of hero, which he has to learn to decipher properly in the school of Hard Knocks, as Arcee points out to him in said episode, or get jumped by the harsh reality of it in the end.
Like Dinobot, Smokescreen is in danger of finding out at the last minute that his destiny is not how he imagines it, but how he has heard about it from those with similar destinies;
His variation right now is that he will become Smokescreen the Great.The 'choice of Dinobot' he doesn't see is simple: Die for the Autobot cause, or survive to die next time. Also remember that they will NOT rewrite something obviously (eg, the relics are about as sentient as Minicons, it seems, but are not Minicons-there will not be an obvious Dinobot or Cheetor or Waspinator). Characters are tweaked.To me, especially in the 'Hard Knocks' episode, Dinobots' story is right there inside of Smokescreens' story. I didn't say it has to turn out the same, or can't shift with events.

[Va'al]

Best part of the episode: Not Steve transforming mid-air to show Megatron threw the wrong flavor of Vehicon, it's Steve hitting the ground a couple minutes later, after you're probably not thinking about it anymore.

Seconded. And you just know it must be Steve.

[PrymeStriker]

Regarding the G1 rewrite:
I like what EVERYBODY said in response, but I will continue to observe the designation of 'Generation one' as a group in this timeline as an official rehashing of who and what G1 are.

What on Earth? It's not.

I see and hear what you are all saying but haven't been convinced yet to completely adopt one of your views.

Okay. Look.

Give me at least 3 valid reasons we should consider Prime, or the Aligned continuity itself, a rewrite of G1, aside from a bucket-full of homages.

[Shadowman]

One more failed job with Starscreams' null and void request for an operation to replace his T-Cog

Failed? Were you paying attention? That was a success. His plan wasn't to get the operation from the Autobots, his plan was to get the Autobots out of the base so he can steal the other Keys.

Regarding the G1 rewrite:
I like what EVERYBODY said in response, but I will continue to observe the designation of 'Generation one' as a group in this timeline as an official rehashing of who and what G1 are.

Um, no. Big no. Hasbro has officially declared Aligned a totally new universe, separate from G1. In fact, they've gone on record saying Aligned is even more detached from G1 than any other universe.

I see and hear what you are all saying but haven't been convinced yet to completely adopt one of your views.

Hasbro said so. That's about as official as it gets.

RE: Smokescreen as Dinobot:
Here, your responses were even more insightful, but I see a 'code of Hero' in this Smokescreen.It's his OWN code of hero, which he has to learn to decipher properly in the school of Hard Knocks, as Arcee points out to him in said episode, or get jumped by the harsh reality of it in the end.
Like Dinobot, Smokescreen is in danger of finding out at the last minute that his destiny is not how he imagines it, but how he has heard about it from those with similar destinies;
His variation right now is that he will become Smokescreen the Great.The 'choice of Dinobot' he doesn't see is simple: Die for the Autobot cause, or survive to die next time.

Brash young soldier who desperately wants to be the hero of the story is not Dinobot's schtick.

(eg, the relics are about as sentient as Minicons, it seems, but are not Minicons

Dude, what? When have any of the relics shown sentience?

Dinobots' story is right there inside of Smokescreens' story[/b]. I didn't say it has to turn out the same, or can't shift with events.

Dinobot's story was about an uncertainty if he was fighting for the right cause, if his code of honor was really compatible with his Predacon instincts or Maximal alignment. Dinobot's story is absolutely nothing like Smokescreen's, who is about certainty that he is a hero destined for greatness. I'm starting to think you've never even seen Beast Wars. Hell, I'm not sure you've even seen Prime.

[Va'al]

Now you've done it, you've roused the Shadowman.

Why, I ask you, why?!


(:P)

[G1 Smoketreader]

Regarding the G1 rewrite:
I like what EVERYBODY said in response, but I will continue to observe the designation of 'Generation one' as a group in this timeline as an official rehashing of who and what G1 are.

What on Earth? It's not.

I see and hear what you are all saying but haven't been convinced yet to completely adopt one of your views.

Okay. Look.

Give me at least 3 valid reasons we should consider Prime, or the Aligned continuity itself, a rewrite of G1, aside from a bucket-full of homages.

The rewrite of G1 is INSIDE Prime, not PRIME inside of a rewrite of G1.I believe you're reading me wrong.
From the second there is a group named Generation one INSIDE one single, official ongoing continuity, that is an official rewrite of the particular group called Generation one.

Don't ask for 3 reasons- there is only one: This (the married continuity family timeline) is the official moving forward of everything put in it. Whatever is not in the timeline is from a different show from a different era that has to be looked up seperately. Whatever is in this timeline is part of the whole gamut that is being picked up and carried forward on a platform intended to bring in any and all new fans on stable footing with existing fans from different eras, and it's all official. Generation One is now a specific group within this overall timeframe with a time and date of birth, an identity,
and a backstory (and a future) within this timeline. It is therefore the official rewrite of Generation one.

[Va'al]

Where is said Generation One in Prime?