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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 2:44 pm
by RAcast
Sabrblade wrote:
ebilly99 wrote:I was wondering what if Megatron brought Optimus back to life with dark energon in season 3? I mean they did have a Zombie prime in season 3 of G1 so there is presidence. Also it would allow Megatron access to the Primes Weapons
Who sAYS Optimus is even dead? I sure wasn't convinced by that ending. Death is death in this show, and Optimus is too crucial a marketing device character to just kill off.

Optimus has a way of not staying dead however.
Seriously, name a continuity in which he didn't die. I think RiD would be the only one, and he very nearly died at the end, saved only by some last minute, off-camera deus ex machina.

Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:00 pm
by Va'al
RAcast wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
ebilly99 wrote:I was wondering what if Megatron brought Optimus back to life with dark energon in season 3? I mean they did have a Zombie prime in season 3 of G1 so there is presidence. Also it would allow Megatron access to the Primes Weapons
Who sAYS Optimus is even dead? I sure wasn't convinced by that ending. Death is death in this show, and Optimus is too crucial a marketing device character to just kill off.

Optimus has a way of not staying dead however.
Seriously, name a continuity in which he didn't die. I think RiD would be the only one, and he very nearly died at the end, saved only by some last minute, off-camera deus ex machina.


On my part, it's wishful thinking.
I'd like him to be dead, or non-operational in some way.

They managed to bring Orion back in the current IDWverse (and Megatron), I'd like him to disappear here.

Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:01 pm
by Sabrblade
RAcast wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
ebilly99 wrote:I was wondering what if Megatron brought Optimus back to life with dark energon in season 3? I mean they did have a Zombie prime in season 3 of G1 so there is presidence. Also it would allow Megatron access to the Primes Weapons
Who sAYS Optimus is even dead? I sure wasn't convinced by that ending. Death is death in this show, and Optimus is too crucial a marketing device character to just kill off.

Optimus has a way of not staying dead however.
Seriously, name a continuity in which he didn't die. I think RiD would be the only one, and he very nearly died at the end, saved only by some last minute, off-camera deus ex machina.
This show is different, though. Death is never sugar-coated nor reversible in this show, and both it and its creators have been adamant about that point. No character who has died in this show has ever undone their death.

Ergo, I highly doubt Optimus died in that explosion. He's unconscious, yeah, but likely just in critical stasis.

Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:09 pm
by King Kuuga
I think Optimus should be in a coma-like state for about half the season, like Megatron was, and bring in Ultra Magnus to fill in. And then keep him on once Optimus revives.

Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:24 pm
by Sabrblade
That Bot wrote:I think Optimus should be in a coma-like state for about half the season,
Six episodes or seven episodes? ;)

Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:28 pm
by King Kuuga
Probably between 5 and 7. I can get away with that because I said "about half".

Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:30 pm
by Archanubis
Va'al wrote:I'd like him to be dead, or non-operational in some way.

They managed to bring Orion back in the current IDWverse (and Megatron), I'd like him to disappear here.

There are three characters in Transformers that you can rely on never staying dead: Anyone named Optimus, Megatron, and Starscream. ;)

Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:41 pm
by Sabrblade
Archanubis wrote:
Va'al wrote:I'd like him to be dead, or non-operational in some way.

They managed to bring Orion back in the current IDWverse (and Megatron), I'd like him to disappear here.

There are three characters in Transformers that you can rely on never staying dead: Anyone named Optimus, Megatron, and Starscream. ;)
In the final episode of Animated, Starscream died for good.

Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:43 pm
by Archanubis
Sabrblade wrote:
Archanubis wrote:
Va'al wrote:I'd like him to be dead, or non-operational in some way.

They managed to bring Orion back in the current IDWverse (and Megatron), I'd like him to disappear here.

There are three characters in Transformers that you can rely on never staying dead: Anyone named Optimus, Megatron, and Starscream. ;)
In the final episode of Animated, Starscream died for good.

Only because that turned out to be the final season. ;)

Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:57 pm
by Sabrblade
Archanubis wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Archanubis wrote:
Va'al wrote:I'd like him to be dead, or non-operational in some way.

They managed to bring Orion back in the current IDWverse (and Megatron), I'd like him to disappear here.

There are three characters in Transformers that you can rely on never staying dead: Anyone named Optimus, Megatron, and Starscream. ;)
In the final episode of Animated, Starscream died for good.

Only because that turned out to be the final season. ;)
none of the existing season 4 info makes any mention of Starscream returning to the story.

Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:46 pm
by Archanubis
Sabrblade wrote:
Archanubis wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Archanubis wrote:
Va'al wrote:I'd like him to be dead, or non-operational in some way.

They managed to bring Orion back in the current IDWverse (and Megatron), I'd like him to disappear here.

There are three characters in Transformers that you can rely on never staying dead: Anyone named Optimus, Megatron, and Starscream. ;)
In the final episode of Animated, Starscream died for good.

Only because that turned out to be the final season. ;)
none of the existing season 4 info makes any mention of Starscream returning to the story.

I thought I read somewhere that Slipstream would have used a piece of her Allspark crystal to revive Starscream had a fourth season occurred.

Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:09 pm
by Sabrblade
Archanubis wrote:I thought I read somewhere that Slipstream would have used a piece of her Allspark crystal to revive Starscream had a fourth season occurred.
That was a deleted storyboard scene from the same episode he dies in.

Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:32 pm
by PrymeStriker
Okay...Rage of the Dinobots #1

Honestly, I haven't read this. I just read up on what happens through TFWiki.

So, Blast Off got blasted in the kidney. I saw that in the five-page-preview. No more Bruticus, if he's dead.

Did Sludge just die again?

Ser-Ket. That's the name of the shiny Predacon on the cover of issue #3.

Image

He looks awesome. His name is not. The only good names in the team of Predacons are the ones that have already been used. :roll:

Backbite. Will he have a bigger role than his G1 counterpart? :-?

Ultra Magnus? Captured!? I hope Circuit Ser-Ket doesn't ruin the chances of Magnus being in season 3...in his PRiD body.

"Re-forged." I've devised that this means they're going to reformat Autobots into Predacons.

Interesting storyline. I'll need to pick this up later on down the road, but at least I know what happens in a nut-shell.

Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:35 pm
by Sabrblade
I'm gonna hold out for the trade coming next year (which I hope comes out before season 3, even if that would push season 3 as far back as the beginning of Summer).

Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:52 pm
by RAcast
PrymeStriker wrote:Okay...Rage of the Dinobots #1

Honestly, I haven't read this. I just read up on what happens through TFWiki.

So, Blast Off got blasted in the kidney. I saw that in the five-page-preview. No more Bruticus, if he's dead.

Did Sludge just die again?

Ser-Ket. That's the name of the shiny Predacon on the cover of issue #3.


He looks awesome. His name is not. The only good names in the team of Predacons are the ones that have already been used. :roll:

Backbite. Will he have a bigger role than his G1 counterpart? :-?

Ultra Magnus? Captured!? I hope Circuit Ser-Ket doesn't ruin the chances of Magnus being in season 3...in his PRiD body.

"Re-forged." I've devised that this means they're going to reformat Autobots into Predacons.

Interesting storyline. I'll need to pick this up later on down the road, but at least I know what happens in a nut-shell.

Actually, it's a great name. Egyptian deification of, wanna guess? A scorpion. :-? Can't wait to see his(?) altmode.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serket

Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:24 pm
by PrymeStriker
RAcast wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:Okay...Rage of the Dinobots #1

Honestly, I haven't read this. I just read up on what happens through TFWiki.

So, Blast Off got blasted in the kidney. I saw that in the five-page-preview. No more Bruticus, if he's dead.

Did Sludge just die again?

Ser-Ket. That's the name of the shiny Predacon on the cover of issue #3.


He looks awesome. His name is not. The only good names in the team of Predacons are the ones that have already been used. :roll:

Backbite. Will he have a bigger role than his G1 counterpart? :-?

Ultra Magnus? Captured!? I hope Circuit Ser-Ket doesn't ruin the chances of Magnus being in season 3...in his PRiD body.

"Re-forged." I've devised that this means they're going to reformat Autobots into Predacons.

Interesting storyline. I'll need to pick this up later on down the road, but at least I know what happens in a nut-shell.

Actually, it's a great name. Egyptian deification of, wanna guess? A scorpion. :-? Can't wait to see his(?) altmode.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serket


The name makes sense. It doesn't have to be great to make sense. He'll turn into a scorpion, no doubt, but that name doesn't settle for me.

Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:36 pm
by Sabrblade
PrymeStriker wrote:He'll turn into a scorpion, no doubt,
With wings?

Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:51 am
by PrymeStriker
Sabrblade wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:He'll turn into a scorpion, no doubt,
With wings?

#-o

Now his name doesn't make sense. What is he supposed to be?! :BOOM:

Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:13 am
by King Kuuga
Sabrblade wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:He'll turn into a scorpion, no doubt,
With wings?

I see no problems here. :D

Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:19 am
by Sabrblade
PrymeStriker wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:He'll turn into a scorpion, no doubt,
With wings?

#-o

Now his name doesn't make sense. What is he supposed to be?! :BOOM:
A dragon, I guess? All the other Preds we've seen thus far seem to be.

Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:44 am
by RAcast
Sabrblade wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:He'll turn into a scorpion, no doubt,
With wings?

#-o

Now his name doesn't make sense. What is he supposed to be?! :BOOM:
A dragon, I guess? All the other Preds we've seen thus far seem to be.

I retain the stance that despite being called "Predacons" they're going to stick more to the likes of the Terrorcons, Horrorcons, Monsterbots, etc. At least for now; which means everything is going to be either a mythical creature (draconic and scaly or griffin/chimera-y like Lazerback) or inhuman and horrific.

Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:56 am
by Sabrblade
RAcast wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:He'll turn into a scorpion, no doubt,
With wings?

#-o

Now his name doesn't make sense. What is he supposed to be?! :BOOM:
A dragon, I guess? All the other Preds we've seen thus far seem to be.

I retain the stance that despite being called "Predacons" they're going to stick more to the likes of the Terrorcons, Horrorcons, Monsterbots, etc. At least for now; which means everything is going to be either a mythical creature (draconic and scaly or griffin/chimera-y like Lazerback) or inhuman and horrific.
Well, again, these are new Predacons.

Though, it should be noted that, among the G1 Predacons, the altmodes of Headstrong and Tantrum don't really fit with the group's name since neither rhinoceroses nor bovines are predatorial. :-B

Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:14 pm
by RAcast
Sabrblade wrote:
RAcast wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:He'll turn into a scorpion, no doubt,
With wings?

#-o

Now his name doesn't make sense. What is he supposed to be?! :BOOM:
A dragon, I guess? All the other Preds we've seen thus far seem to be.

I retain the stance that despite being called "Predacons" they're going to stick more to the likes of the Terrorcons, Horrorcons, Monsterbots, etc. At least for now; which means everything is going to be either a mythical creature (draconic and scaly or griffin/chimera-y like Lazerback) or inhuman and horrific.
Well, again, these are new Predacons.

Though, it should be noted that, among the G1 Predacons, the altmodes of Headstrong and Tantrum don't really fit with the group's name since neither rhinoceroses nor bovines are predatorial. :-B

I know, I'm just saying that all of the TFPrime Predacons we've seen so far have all been some sort of mythical creature or monster, more in line with G1's Terrorcons, etc in terms of design and altmode choice. (And at least one of them IS a Terrorcon, Sinnertwin, called Twinstrike!) :grin:

Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:33 pm
by King Kuuga
Then I'd say they fit the idea of "predacons" better than the original Predacons, being mythical predators and what have you.

Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:26 pm
by RAcast
That Bot wrote:Then I'd say they fit the idea of "predacons" better than the original Predacons, being mythical predators and what have you.

Very true, haha.