G1 Smoketreader wrote:To the best of my knowledge the aligned continuity includes the WFC and FOC games, then also the novels (Exodus and whichever other- I don't recall), plus PRIME and whatever else. If this is wrong, ignore everything I said and I wholeheartedly apologize.
Yes, that is correct.
G1 Smoketreader wrote:I haven't read the novels: I don't plan to. I haven't played the games, I'll pick them up someday, maybe. There is no TF PRIME airing in my area, I watch it on YOUTUBE if I'm not away from home for work.
To the best of my knowledge, the above ARE all one continuity and in it there is a group of TFs who escape Cybertron on the last ship out, which I'm pretty sure is the Ark and that this group baptizes itself 'Generation one'.
You were right up until the last sentence. The group that leaves Cybertron aboard the Ark do not go to Earth like in G1 fiction. They go instead on a space-faring quest to several colony planets, which did not happen in G1.
G1 Smoketreader wrote:This group is the OFFICIAL GENERATION ONE because they are in an OFFICIAL CONTINUITY. Their appearance in this OFFICIAL CONTINUITY FAMILY is THE OFFICIAL REWRITE OF the original GENERATION ONE- that 'original' being the cartoon show that came before Generation two and was renamed G1, well, posthumously, if you will.
Generation 1 is an official continuity, and this, the Aligned continuity, is also an official continuity. There is more than one official continuity beyond just G1.
G1 Smoketreader wrote:The writers of TF:PRIME took some odd bits from here and there, tweaked them around used them in a pre-written story that has status effects being passed around mixed with the occasional flashback to take up episode space where nothing much is actually happening quite often.
By Pre-written I mean the end is decided.The key events are decided. The character development is decided. It's not free-form.It's not character development because it's not open ended. It's just a formula- and since so few character types are in the formula, it's a charlatan effort.
Yes and no.
By "yes" I mean that the folks at Hasbro have done what you say by having mapped out the timeline that this current continuity takes place in.
But, by "no" I mean that the writers of Prime are a different group than those who have created the "pre-written" material. The Prime writers work beneath those at Hasbro who have outlined the timeline of the Aligned continuity, but the outline itself is written in very broad strokes, giving the Prime writers (and other writers working on other parts of this continuity's timeline, like the folks at High Moon Studios) enough creative freedom to do with they want with the series without feeling too restricted but still remaining within the reasonable confines of the continuity's outline.
G1 Smoketreader wrote:AND THE REWRITE OF GENERATION ONE (the old one becoming the new one) IS CONTINUED INSIDE THE STORY OF THIS SHOW.
I think the issue here might be that you're possibly using a different definition of the word "rewrite" than the rest of us.
G1 Smoketreader wrote:[b]You ask where is said G1 in this show: I say that's exactly the point; Where is it? T Does it have to be the same G1, in terms of Wheeljack being a Wrecker? In terms of Starscream being a gimp? In terms of Orion Pax being Optronix?: No, it doesn't need to be the same G1.
Should it be a different G1? NOT IF YOU'RE A GOOD ENOUGH STORYTELLER. IF YOU'RE A GOOD ENOUGH STORYTELLER, KNOCKOUT CAN OVERSEE A BUNCH OF DECEP FOOTMEN (OR EVEN DREADWING)AS THEY PERFORM A CERVICAL CORTEX PATCH THINGY OPERATION WHILE STILL BEING STUCK IN THE WALL- ALL THE GEAR JUST GETS WHEELED INTO THE HALLWAY.
I think you might also be using a different definition of "G1" as well.
G1 Smoketreader wrote:And no, I don't want just G1. I want it all.
Dude, are you still
on that? Nevermind that you and only you understand what "rewrite is continued inside the story" means, it's still official that G1 is unrelated.
G1 Smoketreader wrote:You ask where is said G1 in this show: I say that's exactly the point; Where is it?
How many times do we have to explain this to you? We're not asking anything, we're telling you
that G1 is unrelated.
Hang on a sec, Shadowman. I think we can approach this better if we get a better understanding of what he thinks of as a "rewrite" and "G1", since those seem to be the biggest points of conflict here.