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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Dec 08, 2012 11:44 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:The shot of Starscream pulling out his hand from Cliffjumper's chest after impanling him but before he fell over was cut.


>:oP I expected this.
The impalement viewed from the side was still intact, just not the removal of Starscream's hand.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby PrymeStriker » Sat Dec 08, 2012 11:47 pm

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PrymeStriker wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:The shot of Starscream pulling out his hand from Cliffjumper's chest after impanling him but before he fell over was cut.


>:oP I expected this.
The impalement viewed from the side was still intact, just not the removal of Starscream's hand.


Yes. I expected that.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Shadowman » Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:50 am

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Jack's line, "First rule about robot fight club is you don't talk about robot fight club," was cut.


Why? To avoid copyright issues with "Fight Club?"


Most likely it's because Fight Club isn't exactly a movie for kids. Name-dropping adult content on a kids show isn't popular with parents.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby PrymeStriker » Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:03 am

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Jack's line, "First rule about robot fight club is you don't talk about robot fight club," was cut.


Why? To avoid copyright issues with "Fight Club?"


Most likely it's because Fight Club isn't exactly a movie for kids. Name-dropping adult content on a kids show isn't popular with parents.


I thought it'd have something to do with the "Fight Club" reference.

Let's see how many other hilarious censorships they conduct
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Shadowman » Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:25 am

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Jack's line, "First rule about robot fight club is you don't talk about robot fight club," was cut.


Why? To avoid copyright issues with "Fight Club?"


Most likely it's because Fight Club isn't exactly a movie for kids. Name-dropping adult content on a kids show isn't popular with parents.


I thought it'd have something to do with the "Fight Club" reference.

Let's see how many other hilarious censorships they conduct


Safe money is on the part where Bulkhead disembowels a Vehicon being removed.

EDIT: Oh, and the various torture sequences. (Fowler being tortured by Starscream, MECH dissecting Breakdown, half of Predatory, etc.)
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby G1 Smoketreader » Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:04 pm

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My thoughts on the end of season 2 and guesses for s3, better late than never.

Optimus: Last we see him, there are still sparks, so he still has a 'heartbeat'.Wheeljack, Airachnid and every Decep are in his vicinity so there might be some type of contest over his body or self. In reality, I suspect he'll be taken prisoner or hostage tho he might be discarded. I also see a small possibility that he'll go back to thinking he's Orion Pax/Optronix and serve the Deceps, but without the Iacon files to crack, I don't see what use he is to them any more. I wonder of they feel that killing him is an important tradition?

Alpha Trion: Missing in action. He hid a key in Smokescreen, so I wouldn't be surprised if he's hidden himself in the fortress Megatron 'Downloaded' to Earth. If he can still see events through the reforged Star Saber, he knows it would be a workable plan. This bloke :KREMZEEK: could be used an excuse to change A3 into downloadable material if he were a 'sample' of his kind in the Iacon hall of records, as A3 could technically scan him and take his form long enough to stash himself inside the 'download' of the fortress. Some cousin artefact of the phase shifter (do we really guess A3 bolted without taking any artefacts with him at all? could also be used as an excuse to stash A3 in the fort. Wheeljack, looking for Optimus, could be the catalyst that busts A3 out of some wall. Do I expect it? Nope, but for now it's logical guessing.

Airachnid: Might be dead, discarded with the M.E.C.H plot hook, but could be on the loose again, broken free of stasis when the base collapsed, or else found and brought back into action by Wheeljack or some Decep. With the Predacons coming, Megatron has a massive arsenal, so she may be used to take the insecticons away from him again. A 'betrayal' by the Insecticons would be a good excuse to show off Predaking in combat without killing Autobots off straight from episode 1. Airachnid, if she rejoins the Deceps, may sway Starscreams' loyalties again, tho Knockout is also corruptible now as he needs to start watching his back after the cortical patch episode. If she stays rogue, she may team up with Wheeljack for a little while until they can get away from ground zero. Tiny, mostly unlikely chance she'll do something to zombify Dreadwing to help along some type of brief subplot thread.

Ratchet: I don't think his problem with Optimus has enough torque on him to switch allegiances. He always knew what to expect from Optimus and should be too busy shepherding the homeless A/bots and the kids around, possibly only via comm, to dwell on it for too long. It's a matter of character evolution which may be a vibe in the studios overall as knowledge of the 'evolution' concept in the next Bay film starts to come to light. Issue may surface briefly if Optimus is reunited with his team. Otherwise, Ratchet will use a defence and justification of Optimus to put any new prime in line.

Megz:This is a story about being a Prime. The writers have the guts to explore A/bots as fugitives and refugees of an honestly lost war. They should have let Megz get higher in psuedo-Prime status for a little. He got the arm of "Anonymous prime", a saber, a Cybertronian city-fortress and a chance to revive Cybertron. I think, since the dialogue already set any revival of Cybertron by him to be falsifiable, that he should have been allowed to do it for a day, then get shot in the foot.Doesn't matter now.

Zombie-Cons/Zombie-bots: What, the dark energon wore off? The exploding space bridge killed them all? Not satisfied. More mannequins limited for budget, promised to be used again and discarded for flashback fillers.

Bulkhead:He is developing the strength of will to control Miko and Smokescreens capability to distract him. Good. Should be useful.

I seriously hope more A/bots come to Earth in response to Primes' calls. This whole substory has been left behind, even in the Movieverse, it was there-but-not-there. If Jazz, I hope for an Elite Guard vet, If Prowl, not a motorbike, if any others, more soldiers, please. 3 for every one specialist, otherwise it's a parade of Han Solo toys and no supporting Rebel trooper toys.

Curiosity: Will Predaking roam to search for the remaining Autobots, or will they congregate on Megatrons fortress in desire to reclaim Optimus Prime?

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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby PrymeStriker » Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:19 pm

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G1 Smoketreader wrote:Airachnid: Might be dead, discarded with the M.E.C.H plot hook, but could be on the loose again, broken free of stasis when the base collapsed, or else found and brought back into action by Wheeljack or some Decep.


Wheeljack's an Autobot; you know that, right? And, Airachnid is a rogue Decepticon. She tried to overthrow Megatron and killed Breakdown. The 'cons would do well to leave her in a vegetative state, if she is in one.



Airachnid, if she rejoins the Deceps, may sway Starscreams' loyalties again, tho Knockout is also corruptible now as he needs to start watching his back after the cortical patch episode.


Why would she join the Decepticons again. No...why would Megatron allow her to join the Decepticons again. Airachnid wouldn't have anything of interest to Megatron.

If she stays rogue, she may team up with Wheeljack for a little while until they can get away from ground zero.


Wheeljack is not part of Team Prime, but why the hell would he team up with Airachnid?

Ratchet: I don't think his problem with Optimus has enough torque on him to switch allegiances.


Right. So maybe he'll join up with Wheeljack.

If Jazz, I hope for an Elite Guard vet,


Jazz isn't part of the Elite Guard here.

If Prowl, not a motorbike,


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Curiosity: Will Predaking roam to search for the remaining Autobots, or will they congregate on Megatrons fortress in desire to reclaim Optimus Prime?


The Predacons are hunters. They're hunting the five Autobots that are out on the run.

Fowler:The Human perspective: If he has decided it's time to call things an emergency, he may push for the military to set up a new M.E.C.H project.


What?
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby G1 Smoketreader » Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:31 pm

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G1 Smoketreader wrote:Airachnid: Might be dead, discarded with the M.E.C.H plot hook, but could be on the loose again, broken free of stasis when the base collapsed, or else found and brought back into action by Wheeljack or some Decep.


Wheeljack's an Autobot; you know that, right? And, Airachnid is a rogue Decepticon. She tried to overthrow Megatron and killed Breakdown. The 'cons would do well to leave her in a vegetative state, if she is in one.



Airachnid, if she rejoins the Deceps, may sway Starscreams' loyalties again, tho Knockout is also corruptible now as he needs to start watching his back after the cortical patch episode.


Why would she join the Decepticons again. No...why would Megatron allow her to join the Decepticons again. Airachnid wouldn't have anything of interest to Megatron.

If she stays rogue, she may team up with Wheeljack for a little while until they can get away from ground zero.


Wheeljack is not part of Team Prime, but why the hell would he team up with Airachnid?

Ratchet: I don't think his problem with Optimus has enough torque on him to switch allegiances.


Right. So maybe he'll join up with Wheeljack.

If Jazz, I hope for an Elite Guard vet,


Jazz isn't part of the Elite Guard here.

If Prowl, not a motorbike,


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Curiosity: Will Predaking roam to search for the remaining Autobots, or will they congregate on Megatrons fortress in desire to reclaim Optimus Prime?


The Predacons are hunters. They're hunting the five Autobots that are out on the run.

Fowler:The Human perspective: If he has decided it's time to call things an emergency, he may push for the military to set up a new M.E.C.H project.


What?




Of course I know Wheeljack is an A/bot.



Wheeljack is in the vicinity of the wrecked base and what's left of OP.A Patrol will most likely be sent directly to his crash site. He doesn't know the outcome of the battle yet and doesn't know OP is down.If he evades the patrol,he may head to the base to regroup and continue the battle (provided he isn't crippled, knocked out etc). I'm not sure if he even knows about Airachnid being in the stasis prison.Once he determines the base is destroyed, he may try to wait until the Decep mop-up is over then try to search for Autobot survivors.

Airachnid also doesn't know what's been going on lately.The base ruin is an excellent hiding place for her by default. She will be able both to hide and observe before WJ even gets there to start joining dots, (leaving her with the potential to trade info with WJ in regards to the fate of OP in the event that OPs body is removed by Megz, thereby forcing her and WJ to talk or negotiate, opening the doors to potential immediate teamwork in the face of survival and so on and so forth, even tho trading info is Starscreams MO, not hers).

HOWEVER, Airachnid has the capability to control the Insecticons at range, meaning she may immediately summon them to her and then leave the battlefield with them. If Megz and his remaining Deceps retaliate right away, WJ will have opportunities to search the base wreckage unnoticed, at least for a bit- Soundwave might get wind of him any which way and that's a rematch just waiting to happen.

If they (WJ & A/nid) run into each other while trying to sift through or sneak away from ground zero, they can choose to start fighting and make enough ruckuss to bring out all the Deceps from the tower again and get captured or killed, leave each other alone for now, or team up long enough to get by the immediate Decep patrol cordons.I didn't say they'd make friends, just team up for about 20 minutes.They can kill each other later.

Yes, the Predacons are hunters but the Autobots have their War irrevocably lost (for now) and their last Prime-their last figurehead of Autobothood- downed behind enemy lines: Excellent bait.

That Prowl looks great. A TF:Prime Jazz not being Elite guard in this joint continuity? I don't see a joint continuity, but you ppl still don't get it. Can you see FoC or WfC Starscream in Tf Prime? Why expect a WfC or FoC Jazz?

There have been TF comics in which the Earths' military have tried to replicate Transformers, so treat it as TF lore waiting to be homaged by TF Prime or one of its' successor installments.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby PrymeStriker » Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:26 pm

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G1 Smoketreader wrote:A TF:Prime Jazz not being Elite guard in this joint continuity? I don't see a joint continuity, but you ppl still don't get it. Can you see FoC or WfC Starscream in Tf Prime? Why expect a WfC or FoC Jazz?


We don't get it? You obviously don't get it. WFC Starscream is the same guy that TF Prime Starscream is. FoC Jazz would be the same guy as TF Prime Jazz. And this isn't our personal views; this is official.

Jazz isn't part of the Elite Guard in any of the Aligned fiction. Therefore, he wouldn't suddenly be one after leaving Cybertron.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby G1 Smoketreader » Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:33 am

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G1 Smoketreader wrote:A TF:Prime Jazz not being Elite guard in this joint continuity? I don't see a joint continuity, but you ppl still don't get it. Can you see FoC or WfC Starscream in Tf Prime? Why expect a WfC or FoC Jazz?


We don't get it? You obviously don't get it. WFC Starscream is the same guy that TF Prime Starscream is. FoC Jazz would be the same guy as TF Prime Jazz. And this isn't our personal views; this is official.

Jazz isn't part of the Elite Guard in any of the Aligned fiction. Therefore, he wouldn't suddenly be one after leaving Cybertron.


Suddenly? No, not suddenly if you're a good storyteller and not suddenly if there is a gap of aeons to work with.

Any which way, I'd like somebody to be an elite Guard vet in order to provide smokescreen with a mentor. Smokes' totally capable but his self opinion is idiotic.Jazz was a good candidate in my head since he has high fan factor and his presentation to viewers in the Bayverse was executed horrendously.

That's the same Starscream in personality as well? You're kidding?

Is Prime Soundwave officially the same bloke as WfC Soundwave as well? That's an honest question, I'm not being a smartarse.
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