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The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Henry921 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:26 am

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I doubt the other Dinobots will appear at all. Assuming some of the toys coming out are accurate, the Prime team has already created new animation models for Predaking and Optimus, presumably new models for Grimlock and Ultra Magnus, not to mention whatever minions Predaking will bring with him. And, if Shockwave has an expanded role, they may have needed to create vehicle/transformation models for him too. Speaking purely from a monetary standpoint, I'd be very surprised if we see any more Autobots than those two.

Bear in mind, Season 2's total new (i.e. not previously used for other characters) animation models were the Insecticons (and thus Hardshell as well), Smokescreen, Shockwave, and a static image of Alpha Trion.

I'd love to see the other Dinobots, but given the price of making new CGI models, my money's on UM and Grimlock, and four or five Predacons being the only new additions to the cast. With only 16 episodes to work with, I'm not sure who all else they could squeeze in based on time constraints either.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:33 am

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Rodimus2006 wrote:I know what the tower is officially called I like the Dark Citadel Better.
Calling something that has a real name by a fan name that sounds like it could be real might confuse some people. ;)

Rodimus2006 wrote:What I meant to say I was doing some reading on Prime they said in the future episodes something will be revealed that Cybertron & Earth are connected somehow to me this smells of a Season 3 end plot story arc.
and I just told you what that is: Cybertron is like Earth in that it had Predacons as its own parallel to Earth's dinosaurs.

Rodimus2006 wrote:Shockwave will more than likely show in a multipart episode, while Predaking will be revealed early on the very 1st episodes of Season 3.
Why not just have them both show up in a non-multipart episode? For only being 13 to 16 episodes lot, there's not a whole lot of room for multipart episodes in season 3.

Rodimus2006 wrote:Or will they be always on the run until Optimus returns, I hope Ultramagnus returns he hasnt been in anything hardly so it woulld be cool to see him in Action On Prime TV rather than just his toy.
He's been in the Exodus novel, the War for Cybertron DS video game, the Exiles novel, the DLC multiplayer content for the Fall of Cybertron video game, and the now currently-running Rage of the Dinobots comic series.

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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby PrymeStriker » Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:21 am

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Henry921 wrote:I doubt the other Dinobots will appear at all. Assuming some of the toys coming out are accurate, the Prime team has already created new animation models for Predaking and Optimus, presumably new models for Grimlock and Ultra Magnus, not to mention whatever minions Predaking will bring with him. And, if Shockwave has an expanded role, they may have needed to create vehicle/transformation models for him too. Speaking purely from a monetary standpoint, I'd be very surprised if we see any more Autobots than those two.

Bear in mind, Season 2's total new (i.e. not previously used for other characters) animation models were the Insecticons (and thus Hardshell as well), Smokescreen, Shockwave, and a static image of Alpha Trion.

I'd love to see the other Dinobots, but given the price of making new CGI models, my money's on UM and Grimlock, and four or five Predacons being the only new additions to the cast. With only 16 episodes to work with, I'm not sure who all else they could squeeze in based on time constraints either.


There are going to be a lot more characters this season, dude. We're not limited to the budgets of last season.

The handwriting is on the wall. Swoop's a Predacon now. How about Ultra Magnus and Grimlock join the Team Prime and the other Dinobots forge into Predacons and join Predaking in hunting them down. Then the Dinobots switch sides at the end. That doesn't blow their budget and also keeps their promises for the season.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Henry921 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:37 am

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Fine, call me a pessimist. I'd just be very surprised if we received more than 8 or 9 new characters, which would mean a whopping twenty-seven animation models. Prime's first season had the luxury of creating models that have endured from the Darkness Rising preview movie on, and then only introduced 7 new characters (Transformers wise, anyway), one of which was almost completely in shadow. I don't know if Season 3's budget is drastically larger than before, but to get its awesome final episodes Season 2 had to have two clip shows to save money. I believe we'll see plenty of new characters, but I expect a few palette swaps on the Predacons and just minor changes to Wheeljack, Bumblebee, and (*shudder*) Soundwave which are significantly cheaper than the alternative. I want the Dinobots to be there and they should be there from a storytelling perspective, but I expect if they appear at all, it'll be in a static flashback.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby PrymeStriker » Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:50 am

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We're getting more charcters than we did last time. One of the writers told us this already. We're supposed to expect 8 or 9 new characters, or possibly more.

I'm expecting nothing less than Predaking, Ser-Ket, the four Dinopreds, Ultra Magnus, and Grimlock next season.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus2006 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:29 am

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Look I really dont care about which characters will or will not show either in S3 or in future episodes or seasons Of Prime.

I just want Prime to continue in its current direction, Cool story arcs such as the Iacon Relics, The Omega Keys & Omega Lock and The Tower. I like how Prime is a continous deal one thing leads to a bigger things all episodes are connected.

I hate those series where everything is a confused mess to the point where your head explodes. Right now I am ok on Primes abscence currently I am watching TMNT on Nick which is awesome.

Prime needs to comeback in a cool OMG way and will probably happen some sort of Artifact maybe of the Original 13 Primes or maybe something along those lines or maybe Jack will somehow be the key to Bringing OP back to life somehow.

I now declare Prime the best Transformers ever and that is saying alot for someone who has been with Transformers for 29 years. Cant wait to learn more, see more but it will be sometime the waiting part sucks.

For now I will kill time with TMNT on Nick.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus2006 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:44 am

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I am also ok with the wait cause my Young Justice, Green Latern and Star Wars is back on CN just watched the 100 Episode of Clone it was really good so was Young Justice.

So I have 4 shows I am watching now TMNT, Young Justice, Green Latern & Star Wars. However I am waiting on TNTs Falling Skies more than any of these I wanna see how it is going to end only 10 episodes will be in this season of Falling Skies. Hopefully it will not get the axe such as my V did and leave it un-finished.

I am hopining Prime will continue beyond a Season 3 I hear Prime has been renewed for a Season 4 but I think right now this is just a rumor or more specultions.

Curious on why they chosed 16 over 26 not unless all future seasons now will only consist of 16 instead of the original 26 episodes maybe it cuts down cost.

Also most Transformers dont make it past the upper 50 Episodes which is about 3 seasons long most dont make it past season 3. Hopefully Prime will make it I love this show. After Season 3 is finished Primes episode count will be 68 Episodes.

Also this will mark Prime as the Longest Episodic Transfrormers series other than Generation 1 it only counted cause of Headmasters was just Season 4 of Generation 1.

Cant wait but like I said I am watching others at the moment but it would be cool if they would show more teaser trailers of Season 3. They keep Prime a better secret than movies & videogames with games most of these are spoiled before they come out such as the upcoming DMC which I already know the ending to it.

Transformers Movies are handled via leaked scripts all are faked such as the previously released one involving Galavatron & Unicron.

Prime does an excellent job of remaning under lock & key it makes you want more of Prime.

Nothing is known and it makes people wonder that much more.

Movies & games can not even do it this good and Prime is just a Cartoon.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby PrymeStriker » Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:19 am

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Rodimus2006 wrote:I just want Prime to continue in its current direction, Cool story arcs such as the Iacon Relics,


The Iacon Database is done, we're not getting anymore of that.

The Omega Keys & Omega Lock


They fell victim to combustion.

and The Tower.


Not much story arc to go into that.

Right now I am ok on Primes abscence currently I am watching TMNT on Nick which is awesome.


Off topic.

Prime needs to comeback in a cool OMG way and will probably happen some sort of Artifact maybe of the Original 13 Primes or maybe something along those lines or maybe Jack will somehow be the key to Bringing OP back to life somehow.


All of those story arcs happened. I'll quit this show if they throw up the same bullcrap over and over.

For now I will kill time with TMNT on Nick.


Again, off topic.

I am also ok with the wait cause my Young Justice, Green Latern and Star Wars is back on CN just watched the 100 Episode of Clone it was really good so was Young Justice.
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Off...topic.

So I have 4 shows I am watching now TMNT, Young Justice, Green Latern & Star Wars.
However I am waiting on TNTs Falling Skies more than any of these I wanna see how it is going to end only 10 episodes will be in this season of Falling Skies. Hopefully it will not get the axe such as my V did and leave it un-finished.


OFF TOPIC!

I am hopining Prime will continue beyond a Season 3 I hear Prime has been renewed for a Season 4 but I think right now this is just a rumor or more specultions.


Jeffrey Combs, voice actor for Ratchet, said there'd be a fourth season; right after he said that season three was the end.

Also most Transformers dont make it past the upper 50 Episodes which is about 3 seasons long most dont make it past season 3. Hopefully Prime will make it I love this show. After Season 3 is finished Primes episode count will be 68 Episodes.


Prime is currently the 2nd longest running Transformers cartoon in terms of episode count...right behind G1 with 98 episodes (118 if you count season five).

Transformers Movies are handled via leaked scripts all are faked such as the previously released one involving Galavatron & Unicron.


:BANG_HEAD: Off topic. :BANG_HEAD:

Nothing is known and it makes people wonder that much more.


I've been following the Rage of the Dinobots comics and I've been making some serious, thought out predictions.

At least we all know the Predacons are coming.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus2006 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:43 pm

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What I meant to say about it current direction is about how good the show is being developed I do know tha Iacon Relics story is it concluded in Season 2 and then brought about the reveal of the Omega Keys & The Omega Lock this will continue into Season 3.

I am curious to see if The portal will lead to other worlds, maybe the past maybe this will be how the Dinobots wil brought in.

The Omega Lock opened up a Huge Portal like deal above the Omega Lock.

Whatever the case Season 3 will be awesome, action packed, emotional, with lots of twists & turns. I wonder if anyone major will die off in Season 3 we need some more Cons to die off they are to many with Shockwave & Predaking that makes even more.

But then again G1 had way to many Cons but some of those died out by the ending of the Animated Film and Season 3 also The Rebirth which introuced us to a new generation of Transformers that replaced the old.

I didnt know G1 had 5 Seasons I knew G1 had 4 Seasons with the Headmasters making it Season 4 then it went off into the Japanese Takara Deals that Shout Factory recently release with Super God, Victory and the others.

I been with TF for 29 years guess not even I know everything, I just love watching it and collecting I am not hardcore or obsessed like some fans are who know every little detail on it.

Still looking forward to the return of Prime maybe around Aprile will we get more solid info on its return.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby PrymeStriker » Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:24 pm

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Rodimus2006 wrote: then brought about the reveal of the Omega Keys & The Omega Lock this will continue into Season 3.


No, dude. Those blew up.

I am curious to see if The portal will lead to other worlds, maybe the past maybe this will be how the Dinobots wil brought in.


What portal?

The Omega Lock opened up a Huge Portal like deal above the Omega Lock.


It opened up a space bridge to Earth.

we need some more Cons to die off they are to many with Shockwave & Predaking that makes even more.


We need Autobots to die. There were 7 Autobots and 4 named Decepticons in the season finale. In present day, the Decepticons lost Skyquake, Dreadwing, Breakdown, Makeshift, and Hardshell. The Autobots lost Cliffjumper. >:oP

But then again G1 had way to many Cons


There were 26 Autobots and 24 Decepticons in season one alone.

but some of those died out by the ending of the Animated Film and Season 3 also The Rebirth which introuced us to a new generation of Transformers that replaced the old.


And throughout it all, there were more Autobots than Decepticons. >:oP

I didnt know G1 had 5 Seasons I knew G1 had 4 Seasons with the Headmasters making it Season 4 then it went off into the Japanese Takara Deals that Shout Factory recently release with Super God, Victory and the others.


Nobody remembers season five. :roll:



They were 20 re-runs with interactions with Tommy Kennedy & Powermaster Optimus Prime at the beginning and end of them.

Also, the fourth season was three episodes long: The Rebirth. The Headmasters ignored the Rebirth and made of their own with it.

I been with TF for 29 years guess not even I know everything,


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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Foxbear » Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:55 pm

So here's a question I haven't seen addressed yet. I might have missed it in a previous post but here it is.
Is Predaking solely one beast-mech or is it a gestalt? :-?
ie Will Predaking be limited to hunting one Autobot at a time or can he split to take off after multiple targets? That seems like the kind of sneaky trick Shock wave would build into a weapon.
But has there been any word from above on the subject?
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:01 pm

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It's a one mean lean killing machi- dragon.

No gestalts, as far as we know.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby njb902 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:34 pm

Va'al wrote:It's a one mean lean killing machi- dragon.

No gestalts, as far as we know.


Which makes me sad.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:53 pm

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Va'al wrote:It's a one mean lean killing machi- dragon.

No gestalts, as far as we know.


Which makes me sad.


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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Henry921 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:04 pm

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Va'al wrote:It's a one mean lean killing machi- dragon.

No gestalts, as far as we know.



Weird, I thought the writers were planning on bringing in combiners at some point. Maybe that'll be in Season 4, when Shockwave has supplanted Megatron as rightful Decepticon leader and conducted the experiments to build an ultimate weapon.

A man can dream.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby njb902 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:19 pm

Burn wrote:
njb902 wrote:
Va'al wrote:It's a one mean lean killing machi- dragon.

No gestalts, as far as we know.


Which makes me sad.


Va'al will hug you.


That's all well and good, but it doesn't solve my lack of tfp gestaltyness!
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby PrymeStriker » Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:27 pm

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njb902 wrote:it doesn't solve my lack of tfp gestaltyness!


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There you go. >:oP
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby njb902 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:34 pm

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njb902 wrote:it doesn't solve my lack of tfp gestaltyness!


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There you go. >:oP


So do you work at not having a sense of humor or are you just that way naturally?
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:52 pm

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Burn wrote:
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Va'al wrote:It's a one mean lean killing machi- dragon.

No gestalts, as far as we know.


Which makes me sad.


Va'al will hug you.
I'm so used to seeing the F-bomb censored on other sites using the word "hug" in its place that I read that in the most WRONG way possible. :oops: :P
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby PrymeStriker » Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:14 pm

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So do you work at not having a sense of humor or are you just that way naturally?


Sorry for trying to make you happy by giving you a TFP Gestalt. I won't be nice to you again. Now get over yourself. ;)
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:16 pm

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Burn wrote:
njb902 wrote:
Va'al wrote:It's a one mean lean killing machi- dragon.

No gestalts, as far as we know.


Which makes me sad.


Va'al will hug you.


That's all well and good, but it doesn't solve my lack of tfp gestaltyness!


Well if you want Va'al to combine with you then i'm going to have to request you take that to pm's. :wink:
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby njb902 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:21 pm

Burn wrote:
njb902 wrote:
Burn wrote:
njb902 wrote:
Va'al wrote:It's a one mean lean killing machi- dragon.

No gestalts, as far as we know.


Which makes me sad.


Va'al will hug you.


That's all well and good, but it doesn't solve my lack of tfp gestaltyness!


Well if you want Va'al to combine with you then i'm going to have to request you take that to pm's. :wink:


Lol. Wonder what that would look like, Hmmmm njb'al or maybe Va'902....Oh oh you ment....... :grin:..... :shock:
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus2006 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:50 pm

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I think Predaking is not a combiner but more on the lines of Hardshell a One Being deal the Ultimate Hunter. How he will be introduced in Prime is what I am more interested in.

Is is in hiding on Earth Someplace or maybe from the Tower and will come from there or Brought in via a Space Bridge along with Shockwave but I think Shockwave will be used at later point in Season 3. The first episodes will introduce Predaking.

I wonder if Predaking will have a VA, I would love to see a Prime version of SkyLynx from G1 SkyLynx could be the answer to Predaking. But redo SkyLynx in a diffrent model from his G1 self as everything in Prime is diffrent & looks diffrent than in G1 they only share the namesake.

I wonder what will bring OP back an artifact or something about Time going back in time to game that event. Or something along the lines of the Original 13 Primes they had special powers such as the Forge Hammer maybe another Prime can bring OP back to life. Or maybe Vector Sigma could or Alpha Trion would factor into somehow.

Curious to see will they remain on the run throughout S3 or will they get a new Base. Also where will it be, to me I think it is better if they remain on the run globe trotting trying to stay one step away from the cons. I am more interested in seeings Starscreams goals will he remain a Team Player.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby PrymeStriker » Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:02 pm

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Rodimus2006 wrote:I think Predaking is not a combiner but more on the lines of Hardshell a One Being deal the Ultimate Hunter.


What? Hardshell professes himself as the fiercest of the Insecticons, but he's no more sentient or stronger than the others.

Is is in hiding on Earth Someplace or maybe from the Tower and will come from there or Brought in via a Space Bridge along with Shockwave but I think Shockwave will be used at later point in Season 3. The first episodes will introduce Predaking.


Shockwave came through the bridge with Predaking. Shockwave's been on Cybertron. I wonder where Predaking has been. >:oP

as everything in Prime is diffrent & looks diffrent than in G1 they only share the namesake.


Ratchet
Megatron
Wheeljack
Cliffjumper
Breakdown
Smokescreen (to a small degree)

There physical appearances are all homages to G1. What the hell are you talking about?

Or maybe Vector Sigma could or Alpha Trion would factor into somehow.


The Vector Sigma card again? :BANG_HEAD:

Vector Sigma is on Cybertron anyway.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

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Rodimus2006, we know what Predaking looks like. Did you not see any of this:


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