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The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby starscreamprime1010 » Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:21 am

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Okay, so I'm probably waaaay overthinking this, but its just a though.
So Ratchet's new Beast Hunters toy is a huge homage to Dinobot II. In season 3 of Beast Wars, Dinobot was reborn on the side of the predacons, only to sacrifice himself for the maximals at the end of the season. Could Ratchet possibly join the Decepticons early in the season, only to sacrifice himself for the Autobots in the finale? Its been stated that there will be side switching on both sides, and Jeffery Combs said that season 3 would be the end, only to later confirm a season 4. He might've meant the end for Ratchet.
Again, I could be looking way to far into a simple Homage, but its fun to think about.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby PrymeStriker » Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:39 am

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starscreamprime1010 wrote:Could Ratchet possibly join the Decepticons early in the season, only to sacrifice himself for the Autobots in the finale? Its been stated that there will be side switching on both sides, and Jeffery Combs said that season 3 would be the end, only to later confirm a season 4. He might've meant the end for Ratchet.


I've been saying over and over again. Nobody wants to agree. Ratchet's most likely the side switcher next season. He doesn't have to switch willingly, but I foresee it coming. Thank you. :BOWDOWN:
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby starscreamprime1010 » Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:42 am

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PrymeStriker wrote:
starscreamprime1010 wrote:Could Ratchet possibly join the Decepticons early in the season, only to sacrifice himself for the Autobots in the finale? Its been stated that there will be side switching on both sides, and Jeffery Combs said that season 3 would be the end, only to later confirm a season 4. He might've meant the end for Ratchet.


I've been saying over and over again. Nobody wants to agree. Ratchet's most likely the side switcher next season. He doesn't have to switch willingly, but I foresee it coming. Thank you. :BOWDOWN:


I knew someone had been saying it, I was just too lazy to look for who it was :) The more I think about it, the more I definitely think it will happen.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby starscreamprime1010 » Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:46 am

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Also, according to Seibertron, there was a clip shown during yesterdays panel. Any idea what happened in the clip?
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Shadowman » Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:39 am

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PrymeStriker wrote:
starscreamprime1010 wrote:Could Ratchet possibly join the Decepticons early in the season, only to sacrifice himself for the Autobots in the finale? Its been stated that there will be side switching on both sides, and Jeffery Combs said that season 3 would be the end, only to later confirm a season 4. He might've meant the end for Ratchet.


I've been saying over and over again. Nobody wants to agree. Ratchet's most likely the side switcher next season. He doesn't have to switch willingly, but I foresee it coming. Thank you. :BOWDOWN:


Whoa, who said anything about not agreeing? The look on his face when he learned what Optimus did on Cybertron, I'd be surprised if he didn't consider jumping ship.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby PrymeStriker » Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:47 am

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starscreamprime1010 wrote:Could Ratchet possibly join the Decepticons early in the season, only to sacrifice himself for the Autobots in the finale? Its been stated that there will be side switching on both sides, and Jeffery Combs said that season 3 would be the end, only to later confirm a season 4. He might've meant the end for Ratchet.


I've been saying over and over again. Nobody wants to agree. Ratchet's most likely the side switcher next season. He doesn't have to switch willingly, but I foresee it coming. Thank you. :BOWDOWN:


Whoa, who said anything about not agreeing?


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PrymeStriker wrote:But I think Ratchet's pissed off the most out of all of the Autobots right now. I think he's pretty much lost all hope.


But not to the point he would join the Decepticons. He may have walked away from his friendship with Optimus, but I don't believe for an instant that Prime sacrificing Cybertron would be the catalyst for Ratchet to join the Decepticons.

If anything he'll go it alone, probably team up with Wheeljack.


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Burn wrote:But not to the point he would join the Decepticons. He may have walked away from his friendship with Optimus, but I don't believe for an instant that Prime sacrificing Cybertron would be the catalyst for Ratchet to join the Decepticons.

If anything he'll go it alone, probably team up with Wheeljack.


I definitely agree. Ratchet's been around a long time and been through a lot, and this was definitely a blow that will take a while to recover from, but it doesn't really feel in his nature to switch sides. Walk away from everything completely, yeah, but not switch sides.


Sabrblade wrote:Any side-switchers in season 3 will probably be newcomers coming in season 3.


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Sabrblade wrote:Any side-switchers in season 3 will probably be newcomers coming in season 3.


The wise Sabrblade has spoken :BOWDOWN: . I completely agree. I was gonna post the same thing until I read this, SW55 out :lol:


Archanubis wrote:And no, I don't think Ratchet is going to join the 'cons, for all the reasons the others mentioned.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Shadowman » Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:05 pm

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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Henry921 » Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:35 pm

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I could see Ratchet being forced back into the Cons, either by way of a shell program or through some twisted perversion of Synth-En, which has already affected his system. I don't see him changing sides willingly. He may be disappointed with Optimus, but Ratchet knows only too well what a madman Megatron is.

Either he's brainwashed, or Megs gets knocked out of circulation long enough for someone else to lead the Decepticons and call Ratchet over to the dark side.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby phatram32 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:28 am

I think I am having a memory lapse.. when did IronHide make his first appearance in transformers prime? Was that in season 2? I can't recall for some reason.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby starscreamprime1010 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:36 am

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phatram32 wrote:I think I am having a memory lapse.. when did IronHide make his first appearance in transformers prime? Was that in season 2? I can't recall for some reason.


Ironhide's never been in TF:P and according to the writers and producers, he probably won't be for some time.

Anyways... It looks like we do have to wait until the fall to see season 3, but we do get a TV movie! :D
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby starscreamprime1010 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:45 am

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EEhh disregard what I said earlier about Fall release, here's a trailer that says Spring:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/12/ ... rs-is-here

P.S. Is that a new trailer?!?
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby phatram32 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:13 am

Wow not till the fall? I thought the new season started in the spring or am I getting confused with the TV movie you just mentioned.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby starscreamprime1010 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:18 am

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phatram32 wrote:Wow not till the fall? I thought the new season started in the spring or am I getting confused with the TV movie you just mentioned.


From what I've gathered from all sources, The new season will be starting pretty soon here in the Spring, and in October, they will release the first few episodes of the season (like they have before) on DVD called "Predacons Rising", then the second half of the season will pick up in the fall and will probably end with a T.V. movie... at least this seems to be the most logical explination.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby starscreamprime1010 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:22 am

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PrymeStriker wrote:
starscreamprime1010 wrote:P.S. Is that a new trailer?!?


Yeah. Ain't it Beast?


I was tring to come up with a fllow-up pun on the word Hunter but I can't seem to think of one. But know the effort was there.
And yes, it's totally beast. Good to know he show really is coming back in the spring. For a second I though they were going to make us wait an entire year for another season. And seeing as I'm like the only person in the world who adored season 2, I would not have been too happy. :BOT:
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby PrymeStriker » Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:49 am

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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby starscreamprime1010 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:15 pm

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starscreamprime1010 wrote:And seeing as I'm like the only person in the world who adored season 2


Sabrblade and I join you. ;)


Really? You liked it? Awesome 8) All I ask is that season 3 be as good as the second half of season 2.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Rhinox23 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:40 pm

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starscreamprime1010 wrote:Could Ratchet possibly join the Decepticons early in the season, only to sacrifice himself for the Autobots in the finale? Its been stated that there will be side switching on both sides, and Jeffery Combs said that season 3 would be the end, only to later confirm a season 4. He might've meant the end for Ratchet.


I've been saying over and over again. Nobody wants to agree. Ratchet's most likely the side switcher next season. He doesn't have to switch willingly, but I foresee it coming. Thank you. :BOWDOWN:


I also agree with you. While he does seem to be the most obvious choice, I believe that it is a reasonable move considering his character progression. Ratchet is my favorite character and I love how he served as the check on Optimus, especially at the end of season 2. I think this will be an amazing story arc that doesn't repeat any of the TF norms. I'm very excited about season 3.

The other side-switcher that is obvious would be Dreadwing...if he lived. I really believe we will see him again because his demise was somewhat anti-climactic to me. I was left wanting to know more of what happened to him and if he joins up with the 'Bots, then we'll get to learn even more about him.

On another note, I'll be interested to see how the final issue of Rage of the Dinobots "ties in" with Season 3. It obviously will have a lot to do with Shockwave, but hopefully there will be some foreshadowing/setting up for an eventual Dinobot appearance in the show! :PRAY:

Oh and for the record, I loved season 2 as well!! Bring on Beast Hunters!!! :DANCE:
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby starscreamprime1010 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:46 pm

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starscreamprime1010 wrote:Could Ratchet possibly join the Decepticons early in the season, only to sacrifice himself for the Autobots in the finale? Its been stated that there will be side switching on both sides, and Jeffery Combs said that season 3 would be the end, only to later confirm a season 4. He might've meant the end for Ratchet.


I've been saying over and over again. Nobody wants to agree. Ratchet's most likely the side switcher next season. He doesn't have to switch willingly, but I foresee it coming. Thank you. :BOWDOWN:


On another note, I'll be interested to see how the final issue of Rage of the Dinobots "ties in" with Season 3. It obviously will have a lot to do with Shockwave, but hopefully there will be some foreshadowing/setting up for an eventual Dinobot appearance in the show! :PRAY:

Oh and for the record, I loved season 2 as well!! Bring on Beast Hunters!!! :DANCE:


Any word on when Rage #4 comes out? Last issue had me a bit underwhelmed but I'm still pumped for the finale. One thing that definitely caught my eye in issue three was the fact that Grimlock planned to leave the planet and find Optimus. PLEASE let that be a hint toward season 3. I still think at least a couple of Dinobots will become preds though. It'd be a nice twist.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Rhinox23 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:50 pm

starscreamprime1010 wrote:Any word on when Rage #4 comes out? Last issue had me a bit underwhelmed but I'm still pumped for the finale. One thing that definitely caught my eye in issue three was the fact that Grimlock planned to leave the planet and find Optimus. PLEASE let that be a hint toward season 3. I still think at least a couple of Dinobots will become preds though. It'd be a nice twist.


I initially read that it was scheduled to come out on on February 20th. However, this same site said that issue #3 was due out on January 30th and it came out a week later. I spoke with my local comic guy and he said it listed Feb. 20, but that it would likely be delayed one week to the 27th. Either way, it's only 1 or 2 weeks from tomorrow! :D
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby King Kuuga » Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:40 pm

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I wonder if they're splitting this season in half like they did Season 2. It's 10 episodes shorter than the previous two seasons, so they could just air it all in one fell swoop like they did with MLP. They've got the TV movie for new content in Fall, and hopefully Rescue Bots S2 will be a full 26 eps.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

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Very late on this, but it turns out Saturday's episode on Vortexx was not a rerun. Episode 10 aired and it had only three edits.

1. When Knock Out stabs Optimus with his Energon prod the first time, Optimus raises his head back and let's out a quick groan in agony, and then falls over forwards. The bit of Optimus lifting his head back and groaning was shortened, with the video cutting to his falling over right as the audio of his groaning played over the cut. This cut was likely made due to the prolonged imagery of Optimus writhing in pain resembling electrocution torture.

2. After Optimus falls over after being stabbed by Knock Out, Knock Out stabs him a second time, once again in a painful and cruel manner, before the scene cuts to Raf saying, "It's Cons!" This second stab was cut out altogether, with the scene instead going from Optimus' fall to Raf's reaction.

3. The new commercial break was placed at a rather cleverly-chosen point. When Starscream starts absorbing underground energon with the harvester, Knock Out and Breakdown watch him while Bulkhead sneaks into the scene far in the background. Then the scene cuts to a closer view of Bulkhead. The new commercial break was inserted between the shot of Knock Out and Breakdown watching and the closer view of Bulkhead. The reason this edit was done well was because the music score in the unedited version changed at this exact moment, with the shot of the Decepticon duo having music that would typically play before the cut to a commercial break, getting all tense and exciting before abruptly switching off, almost as though that scene was always meant to have a commercial break put there.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Henry921 » Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:22 am

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Sabrblade and I join you. ;)


Really? You liked it? Awesome 8) All I ask is that season 3 be as good as the second half of season 2.


This may come as a surprise, but I'd say Season 2 of Prime is the best Transformers fiction since Season 2 of Beast Wars. Even the clip shows were great episodes. It had some unexpectedly dark and mature elements, and the planning out of the storyline, seeded all the way back in Episode 1 with Orion Pax and the Iacon Database, leading up to the relic hunts, leading up to the Omega Keys, leading up to the final two episodes, is a textbook example of how episodic pacing is done.

On to Season 3... I've actually scaled back my expectations a bit. Animated was the only Transformers series where I liked the 3rd season more than the 2nd, and worry these Hasbro mandated Beastformers may screw up a good thing. High hopes, low expectations. Even the presence of Shockwave doesn't put my mind completely at ease.

Still, I'll be buying a lot of the toys, so I suspect Hasbro will be happy either way.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby phatram32 » Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:50 am

Has there been any official announcement from HUB or Hasbro about this aside from what was reported in the magazine?

Also, will the tv movie serve as the series finale I wonder?
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

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I think the constant reset of the status quo (like Bumblebee getting his T-cog back or, the worst offender in my eyes, Bulkhead's swift recovery) was the only downfall of the second season. But the story progression blinds most of it for me.
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Strength: 1
Intelligence: 1
Speed: 1
Endurance: 1
Rank: 1
Courage: 1
Firepower: Infinity
Skill: 1

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