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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby PrymeStriker » Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:36 am

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kaijuguy19 wrote:Do you guys think the CGI in Prime will age well in the future or do you think it'll look dated instead?


CGI may improve, but if the second and third seasons of Beast Wars are any example, Prime's animation should age with elegance.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby kaijuguy19 » Sun Mar 16, 2014 3:04 pm

I've heard from someonw who goe to one of the people who worked on the storyboard for the show said in their tumblr account that Shockwave was originally going to be killed off in seasons 2 but was brought back for S3 of Prime just so he can have a role in the Predacons creation. I tried looking to where he said that but I can' see to find it.

Here's his account on Tumblr

http://will-ruzicka.tumblr.com/

Then here's what I think is his other account.

http://ryusuke78.tumblr.com/

For those who saw the post is this true?
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby RSDADDIMUS2 » Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:55 pm

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Is the new animated show part of Prime?
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

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RSDADDIMUS2 wrote:Is the new animated show part of Prime?
It's a sequel set a few years after.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby kaijuguy19 » Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:36 pm

Since Bumblebee's going to lead his own team in the next TF series I wonder if the other cast of Prime will have teams of their own? It'd be interesting to see if Arcee and Ultra Magnus have teams of their own.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

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kaijuguy19 wrote:Since Bumblebee's going to lead his own team in the next TF series I wonder if the other cast of Prime will have teams of their own? It'd be interesting to see if Arcee and Ultra Magnus have teams of their own.

If featured (and I hope the old characters from Prime are), Magnus would probably retake command of the Wreckers (at this point, Wheeljack and Bulkhead). Arcee in charge of her own team would be interesting to see; so would seeing how Predaking and his two Predacons are doing. :CON:
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby kaijuguy19 » Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:19 pm

Archanubis wrote:
kaijuguy19 wrote:Since Bumblebee's going to lead his own team in the next TF series I wonder if the other cast of Prime will have teams of their own? It'd be interesting to see if Arcee and Ultra Magnus have teams of their own.

If featured (and I hope the old characters from Prime are), Magnus would probably retake command of the Wreckers (at this point, Wheeljack and Bulkhead). Arcee in charge of her own team would be interesting to see; so would seeing how Predaking and his two Predacons are doing. :CON:


Indeed. Since Bumblebee's likely to be like TFA Optimus in terms of his position and personalty I can also imagine either Arcee or Magnus being like Optimus Primal where they both have some experence in leading others but not to a full extent yet. What I think would be interesting if we can see Knockout experencing his new role as an Autobot as well as even having a Predacon become and autobot like the Cyberverse Windrazor repaint Divebomb from the Leigon Beast Hunters line.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby TurboMMaster » Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:34 am

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Any chance that we will see Starscream in sequel? I really hope that he will survive until that point. Since it is first time while Starscream survived until "ending credits", I don't want to this beign wasted by "He was killed off-screen few minutes later".
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby kaijuguy19 » Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:55 pm

TurboMMaster wrote:Any chance that we will see Starscream in sequel? I really hope that he will survive until that point. Since it is first time while Starscream survived until "ending credits", I don't want to this beign wasted by "He was killed off-screen few minutes later".


I've heard that from the commentaries of Predacons Rising that the writers confirmed that Starscream is indeed dead which isn't that surprising considering the garbage treatment Screamer gave to the Preds.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Sun Jun 29, 2014 3:55 pm

Well... He can still appear as a ghost!
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby hehe » Wed Jul 23, 2014 3:39 pm

Starscream's dead. :( I hope we see Thundertron and his pirates, they were in TF exiles but we didnt find out what happened to them. I predict that we might see Wreck-Gar (Thundertron's prisoner) and Axer in TF Robots in disguise. I also predict that we might see Velocitron, and I hope that would mean seeing Blurr. Blurr is one of my favorites.

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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby hehe » Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:19 pm

Someone plz tell me everything we know so far about TF: Robots in Disguise.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:50 pm

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hehe wrote:Starscream's dead. :(
We don't know that.

hehe wrote:I hope we see Thundertron and his pirates, they were in TF exiles but we didnt find out what happened to them. I predict that we might see Wreck-Gar (Thundertron's prisoner) and Axer in TF Robots in disguise. I also predict that we might see Velocitron, and I hope that would mean seeing Blurr. Blurr is one of my favorites.
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From Discovery Press Web:
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THE HUB NETWORK ANNOUNCES BRAND NEW TRANSFORMERS SERIES IN PRODUCTION NOW FOR 2015
Will Friedle, Darren Criss and Constance Zimmer to Star in New Animated Series by Hasbro Studios
March 17, 2014


LOS ANGELES - The Hub Network, champions of family fun and the only network dedicated to providing kids and their families entertainment they can watch together, announced today that a new animated series is currently in production for the globally renowned TRANSFORMERS brand. Set to debut in early 2015, the new action-packed series is being produced by Hasbro Studios, the production and distribution division of Hasbro, Inc., and is executive produced by Jeff Kline ("Transformers Prime," "G.I. Joe Renegades").

Taking place years after the battle between Autobots and Decepticons in "Transformers Prime," this all new series centers around our hero Bumblebee stepping up to lead a brand new team of Autobots. The show features an all-star cast with Will Friedle ("Boy Meets World") returning as Bumblebee, along with Darren Criss ("Glee"), Constance Zimmer ("House of Cards") and Ted McGinley ("Married with Children"). Blending 3D characters with hand-painted environments, the series mixes action-packed adventure with lots of comedy, making it a rip-roaring experience for kids and families to enjoy together.

This is a big year as the TRANSFORMERS brand celebrates its 30th anniversary. The Hub Network will also be celebrating the success of the franchise with special events to be announced later this year.

TRANSFORMERS and all related characters are trademarks of Hasbro and are used with permission. © 2014. Hasbro. All Rights Reserved.



About the Hub Network

The Hub Network is a multi-platform joint venture between Discovery Communications (NASDAQ: DISCA, DISCB, DISCK) and Hasbro Inc., (NASDAQ: HAS) that champions family fun by providing relatable, funny, family friendly entertainment experiences that children and their parents can enjoy together. The cable and satellite television network features original programming as well as content from Hasbro's rich portfolio of entertainment and educational properties built during the past 90 years and from leading third-party producers worldwide. The Hub Network's lineup includes animated and live-action series, as well as specials, game shows, and family-favorite movies. The network extends its content through a robust and engaging online presence at HubNetwork.com. The Hub Network rebranded from Discovery Kids on October 10, 2010, and is available in nearly 71 million U.S. households. The Hub Network logo and name are trademarks of Hub Television Networks, LLC. All rights reserved.

To find the channel in your area, please visit HubNetwork.com and check the channel locator at the top of the page.

Visit the Hub Network on Social Media:

Facebook at Facebook.com/HubTVNetwork

Twitter @HubTVNetwork

Instagram @HubTVNetwork

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Note: For artwork, visit press.discovery.com/us/Hub/



About Hasbro Studios

Hasbro Studios is the Los Angeles-based entertainment division of Hasbro, Inc. (NASDAQ: HAS). The studio is responsible for entertainment brand-driven storytelling for the company across television, film, commercial productions and short-form. It develops, produces and distributes TV shows based on Hasbro's world class brands, including TRANSFORMERS, MY LITTLE PONY, LITTLEST PET SHOP and FAMILY GAME NIGHT. Many of these shows air on Hub Network, a U.S. television network for kids and their families, that is a joint venture between Hasbro and Discovery Communications (NASDAQ: DISCA, DISCB, DISCK). Hasbro Studios shows can also be seen on networks in more than 180 countries globally. Since its formation in 2009, the studio has received seven Daytime Emmy wins and 16 nominations. On the film side, the studio is developing and producing a number of features based on Hasbro's brands, including TRANSFORMERS 4 (Paramount), G.I. JOE 3 (Paramount) and Ouiji (Universal Pictures). The studio team also oversees the production of commercials that feature Hasbro's brands as well production of short-form content that can be seen on all of the major digital and social media platforms globally.

From TV Kids Magazine:
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From Variety:
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“Transformers: Robots in Disguise” will be the name of Hasbro’s new animated series starring its shape-shifting characters.

The Hasbro Studios-produced series, which will bow on The Hub kids channel in spring 2015, will feature the voices of Darren Criss (“Glee”), Constance Zimmer (“House of Cards”), Mitchell Whitfield (“TMNT”) and Ted McGinley (“Married with Children”).

Hasbro is revealing new details of the project, first announced in March, as the company is about to head to the Licensing Expo in Las Vegas. Event takes place June 17-19 from the Mandalay Bay Convention Center. Hasbro has long seen animated series as a way to keep and grow a young fanbase around its Transformers outside of the megaplex and fuel interest in a merchandise program beyond just action figures.

Series will introduce a redesign of Bumblebee and introduce new Autobot characters Sideswipe and Fixit (see above).

Criss will voice Sideswipe, while Whitfield will bring Fixit to life.

Show takes place years after “Transformers Prime," when Bumblebee is summoned to save Earth from a new faction of Decepticons and assembles a rogue team of young Autobots that includes a rebel bad boy bot, an elite guard cadet, a bombastic Dinobot and hyperactive Mini-Con to capture their new enemies.

Each new bot is a fully capable action hero but inexperienced in working together in a team, forcing Bumblebee to become both squad leader and coach, Hasbro said.

“Robots in Disguise’s” creative team includes kids programming vets Jeff Kline (“Transformers Prime”) as executive producer; producer Adam Beechen (“The Adventures of Chuck and Friends”); and Steven Melching, a writer on “Star Wars: The Clone Wars," who will serve as the show’s story editor.

“Transformers” is celebrating its 30th anniversary this year. Paramount releases “Transformers: Age of Extinction” on June 27.

The Hub is a joint venture between Discovery Communications and Hasbro.

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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby hehe » Thu Jul 24, 2014 8:09 am

Sabrblade wrote:
hehe wrote:Starscream's dead. :(
We don't know that.

hehe wrote:I hope we see Thundertron and his pirates, they were in TF exiles but we didnt find out what happened to them. I predict that we might see Wreck-Gar (Thundertron's prisoner) and Axer in TF Robots in disguise. I also predict that we might see Velocitron, and I hope that would mean seeing Blurr. Blurr is one of my favorites.
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From Discovery Press Web:
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THE HUB NETWORK ANNOUNCES BRAND NEW TRANSFORMERS SERIES IN PRODUCTION NOW FOR 2015
Will Friedle, Darren Criss and Constance Zimmer to Star in New Animated Series by Hasbro Studios
March 17, 2014


LOS ANGELES - The Hub Network, champions of family fun and the only network dedicated to providing kids and their families entertainment they can watch together, announced today that a new animated series is currently in production for the globally renowned TRANSFORMERS brand. Set to debut in early 2015, the new action-packed series is being produced by Hasbro Studios, the production and distribution division of Hasbro, Inc., and is executive produced by Jeff Kline ("Transformers Prime," "G.I. Joe Renegades").

Taking place years after the battle between Autobots and Decepticons in "Transformers Prime," this all new series centers around our hero Bumblebee stepping up to lead a brand new team of Autobots. The show features an all-star cast with Will Friedle ("Boy Meets World") returning as Bumblebee, along with Darren Criss ("Glee"), Constance Zimmer ("House of Cards") and Ted McGinley ("Married with Children"). Blending 3D characters with hand-painted environments, the series mixes action-packed adventure with lots of comedy, making it a rip-roaring experience for kids and families to enjoy together.

This is a big year as the TRANSFORMERS brand celebrates its 30th anniversary. The Hub Network will also be celebrating the success of the franchise with special events to be announced later this year.

TRANSFORMERS and all related characters are trademarks of Hasbro and are used with permission. © 2014. Hasbro. All Rights Reserved.



About the Hub Network

The Hub Network is a multi-platform joint venture between Discovery Communications (NASDAQ: DISCA, DISCB, DISCK) and Hasbro Inc., (NASDAQ: HAS) that champions family fun by providing relatable, funny, family friendly entertainment experiences that children and their parents can enjoy together. The cable and satellite television network features original programming as well as content from Hasbro's rich portfolio of entertainment and educational properties built during the past 90 years and from leading third-party producers worldwide. The Hub Network's lineup includes animated and live-action series, as well as specials, game shows, and family-favorite movies. The network extends its content through a robust and engaging online presence at HubNetwork.com. The Hub Network rebranded from Discovery Kids on October 10, 2010, and is available in nearly 71 million U.S. households. The Hub Network logo and name are trademarks of Hub Television Networks, LLC. All rights reserved.

To find the channel in your area, please visit HubNetwork.com and check the channel locator at the top of the page.

Visit the Hub Network on Social Media:

Facebook at Facebook.com/HubTVNetwork

Twitter @HubTVNetwork

Instagram @HubTVNetwork

YouTube at YouTube.com/HubTVNetwork

Note: For artwork, visit press.discovery.com/us/Hub/



About Hasbro Studios

Hasbro Studios is the Los Angeles-based entertainment division of Hasbro, Inc. (NASDAQ: HAS). The studio is responsible for entertainment brand-driven storytelling for the company across television, film, commercial productions and short-form. It develops, produces and distributes TV shows based on Hasbro's world class brands, including TRANSFORMERS, MY LITTLE PONY, LITTLEST PET SHOP and FAMILY GAME NIGHT. Many of these shows air on Hub Network, a U.S. television network for kids and their families, that is a joint venture between Hasbro and Discovery Communications (NASDAQ: DISCA, DISCB, DISCK). Hasbro Studios shows can also be seen on networks in more than 180 countries globally. Since its formation in 2009, the studio has received seven Daytime Emmy wins and 16 nominations. On the film side, the studio is developing and producing a number of features based on Hasbro's brands, including TRANSFORMERS 4 (Paramount), G.I. JOE 3 (Paramount) and Ouiji (Universal Pictures). The studio team also oversees the production of commercials that feature Hasbro's brands as well production of short-form content that can be seen on all of the major digital and social media platforms globally.

From TV Kids Magazine:
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From Variety:
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“Transformers: Robots in Disguise” will be the name of Hasbro’s new animated series starring its shape-shifting characters.

The Hasbro Studios-produced series, which will bow on The Hub kids channel in spring 2015, will feature the voices of Darren Criss (“Glee”), Constance Zimmer (“House of Cards”), Mitchell Whitfield (“TMNT”) and Ted McGinley (“Married with Children”).

Hasbro is revealing new details of the project, first announced in March, as the company is about to head to the Licensing Expo in Las Vegas. Event takes place June 17-19 from the Mandalay Bay Convention Center. Hasbro has long seen animated series as a way to keep and grow a young fanbase around its Transformers outside of the megaplex and fuel interest in a merchandise program beyond just action figures.

Series will introduce a redesign of Bumblebee and introduce new Autobot characters Sideswipe and Fixit (see above).

Criss will voice Sideswipe, while Whitfield will bring Fixit to life.

Show takes place years after “Transformers Prime," when Bumblebee is summoned to save Earth from a new faction of Decepticons and assembles a rogue team of young Autobots that includes a rebel bad boy bot, an elite guard cadet, a bombastic Dinobot and hyperactive Mini-Con to capture their new enemies.

Each new bot is a fully capable action hero but inexperienced in working together in a team, forcing Bumblebee to become both squad leader and coach, Hasbro said.

“Robots in Disguise’s” creative team includes kids programming vets Jeff Kline (“Transformers Prime”) as executive producer; producer Adam Beechen (“The Adventures of Chuck and Friends”); and Steven Melching, a writer on “Star Wars: The Clone Wars," who will serve as the show’s story editor.

“Transformers” is celebrating its 30th anniversary this year. Paramount releases “Transformers: Age of Extinction” on June 27.

The Hub is a joint venture between Discovery Communications and Hasbro.

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I've heard that the writers confirmed that starscream is dead. thx for the information tho. I had no idea there was a 3rd book.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby hehe » Thu Jul 24, 2014 4:40 pm

I've heard from some commentaries on Predacons Rising
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

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Commentaries are Authorial Intent; "Pseudocanon" at best. Until the new cartoon comes out and says one way or the other, his fate is ambiguous.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby hehe » Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:56 pm

whether it's official or not, I doubt Predaking would let Starscream live after the garbage treatment he gave him.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

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hehe wrote:whether it's official or not, I doubt Predaking would let Starscream live after the garbage treatment he gave him.
All I'm saying is that it all depends on what future fiction will say on the matter, if at all. Until then, we can't say for certain one way or the other.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

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hehe wrote:I've heard from some commentaries on Predacons Rising
Commentaries are Authorial Intent; "Pseudocanon" at best. Until the new cartoon comes out and says one way or the other, his fate is ambiguous.


But at the same time, there's absolutely no reason to doubt them.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

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Shadowman wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
hehe wrote:I've heard from some commentaries on Predacons Rising
Commentaries are Authorial Intent; "Pseudocanon" at best. Until the new cartoon comes out and says one way or the other, his fate is ambiguous.


But at the same time, there's absolutely no reason to doubt them.
Nor is there a reason to accept them. I'm taking the middle ground until a solid answer comes from either direction.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Shadowman » Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:08 am

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hehe wrote:I've heard from some commentaries on Predacons Rising
Commentaries are Authorial Intent; "Pseudocanon" at best. Until the new cartoon comes out and says one way or the other, his fate is ambiguous.


But at the same time, there's absolutely no reason to doubt them.
Nor is there a reason to accept them. I'm taking the middle ground until a solid answer comes from either direction.


"Because the creators said so" is a perfectly valid reason to accept them. You understand a lot of what we know about Lord of the Rings came from things Tolkien said outside the books? Same logic applies here. Just because they didn't say it on the show, doesn't make it false.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:40 am

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Shadowman wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Shadowman wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
hehe wrote:I've heard from some commentaries on Predacons Rising
Commentaries are Authorial Intent; "Pseudocanon" at best. Until the new cartoon comes out and says one way or the other, his fate is ambiguous.


But at the same time, there's absolutely no reason to doubt them.
Nor is there a reason to accept them. I'm taking the middle ground until a solid answer comes from either direction.


"Because the creators said so" is a perfectly valid reason to accept them. You understand a lot of what we know about Lord of the Rings came from things Tolkien said outside the books? Same logic applies here. Just because they didn't say it on the show, doesn't make it false.
You know what else has been said to be true by the creators? That they consider Alpha Trion to be "long since dead" by the time of the Prime cartoon's setting. However, unless the guy knows how to write stuff down in the living world from beyond the grave, he would have had to have been alive in the present day to transcribe the lengthy "Earthfall" chapter in the Covenant of Primus, since he can't write about future events that haven't happened yet.

There's also Derrick J. Wyatt's infamous claim of there being no Primus and Unicron existing in the world of Transformers Animated, despite various Club fiction and the AllSpark Alamancs placing it in the established Transformers multiverse (specifically in the Malgus cluster) in which Primus exists in all universes whether each world's inhabitants know of him or not.

The fiction itself takes highest precedence. If Starscream shows up in RID as still being alive, then their word on his being dead is not law. If if doesn't show up, and the show doesn't contradict what they say, then oh well.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Prime Discussion Thread

Postby Shadowman » Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:43 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
Shadowman wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Shadowman wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
hehe wrote:I've heard from some commentaries on Predacons Rising
Commentaries are Authorial Intent; "Pseudocanon" at best. Until the new cartoon comes out and says one way or the other, his fate is ambiguous.


But at the same time, there's absolutely no reason to doubt them.
Nor is there a reason to accept them. I'm taking the middle ground until a solid answer comes from either direction.


"Because the creators said so" is a perfectly valid reason to accept them. You understand a lot of what we know about Lord of the Rings came from things Tolkien said outside the books? Same logic applies here. Just because they didn't say it on the show, doesn't make it false.
You know what else has been said to be true by the creators? That they consider Alpha Trion to be "long since dead" by the time of the Prime cartoon's setting. However, unless the guy knows how to write stuff down in the living world from beyond the grave, he would have had to have been alive in the present day to transcribe the lengthy "Earthfall" chapter in the Covenant of Primus, since he can't write about future events that haven't happened yet.

There's also Derrick J. Wyatt's infamous claim of there being no Primus and Unicron existing in the world of Transformers Animated, despite various Club fiction and the AllSpark Alamancs placing it in the established Transformers multiverse (specifically in the Malgus cluster) in which Primus exists in all universes whether each world's inhabitants know of him or not.

The fiction itself takes highest precedence. If Starscream shows up in RID as still being alive, then their word on his being dead is not law. If if doesn't show up, and the show doesn't contradict what they say, then oh well.


So basically, you problem isn't that you don't think the creator's word counts as canon, you think non-canon works count as canon. See, the funny thing about the Covenant of Primus and the Allspark Almanac? They can ignore that. Just because the Allspark Almanac says one thing or the Covenant of Primus says another, doesn't mean the writers are suddenly beholden to this. Michael Bay ignores all of the extra comics and such for the movies, the same applies here.

Fun fact, if I wrote a book, then gave out some fun facts at a con or something that weren't explicitly stated in the book, then some jackass came along and wrote a book completely contradicting me, I'd likely punch him in the face.

Sabrblade wrote:That they consider Alpha Trion to be "long since dead" by the time of the Prime cartoon's setting. However, unless the guy knows how to write stuff down in the living world from beyond the grave, he would have had to have been alive in the present day to transcribe the lengthy "Earthfall" chapter in the Covenant of Primus, since he can't write about future events that haven't happened yet.


He probably could have. He had an entire pre-programmed conversation with Optimus, after all. Oh, and that whole thing about the Covenant of Primus being able to read and alter the future.
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