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Re: The Phantom Pain: MGS 5?

Postby Shadowman » Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:05 pm

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You know what's really crazy about that scene? They never talk about that being a new prosthetic body. I assumed they managed to attach human parts back on to him.
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Re: The Phantom Pain: MGS 5?

Postby BeastProwl » Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:32 pm

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Impossible.
The Cybernetic enhancements Raiden underwent at Area 51 make it impossible for him to survive with a normal body. Even if they are human arms, they are enhanced to suit him cybernetically, as at the time, his body ran on white blood. Thats not to say normal body parts cant be altered to run on the blood, but the fact remains. Those arms arent normal. So I suppose its possible Big Boss got an arm donated to him after this happened, but I'm not ruling anything out.

(Side question, I just realized Raiden's blood is red in Rising, how the hell?)
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Re: The Phantom Pain: MGS 5?

Postby Shadowman » Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:33 pm

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BeastProwl wrote:Impossible.
The Cybernetic enhancements Raiden underwent at Area 51 make it impossible for him to survive with a normal body. Even if they are human arms, they are enhanced to suit him cybernetically, as at the time, his body ran on white blood. Thats not to say normal body parts cant be altered to run on the blood, but the fact remains. Those arms arent normal. So I suppose its possible Big Boss got an arm donated to him after this happened, but I'm not ruling anything out.


In MGS2, it's talked about that Raiden has the fake blood there too, and that his regular blood will be returned to him at the end of the mission. I assumed the Patriots reneged on this part of the deal, and his human parts were replaced as the normal ones stopped working, and that both blood and body were restored to normal at the end of MGS4 since everything you said wasn't brought up in-game. And if it is, it's a conversation no one decided to share with me.

BeastProwl wrote:(Side question, I just realized Raiden's blood is red in Rising, how the hell?)


Important MGS rule: Nanomachines. It's always nanomachines.
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Re: The Phantom Pain: MGS 5?

Postby BeastProwl » Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:35 pm

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I just played through MGS2, dont recall that.

Also, in the japanese version of MGS Rising, his blood is white, at least it is in this trailer. Why it was changed for the rest of us is anyone's guess. Maybe it being white brought on sexual controversy or something.
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Re: The Phantom Pain: MGS 5?

Postby Shadowman » Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:41 am

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BeastProwl wrote:I just played through MGS2, dont recall that.

Also, in the japanese version of MGS Rising, his blood is white, at least it is in this trailer. Why it was changed for the rest of us is anyone's guess. Maybe it being white brought on sexual controversy or something.


First off, nanomachines.

Second, if the white blood wasn't an issue when he was fighting Vamp I don't think it'd be a problem there.
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Re: The Phantom Pain: MGS 5?

Postby BeastProwl » Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:16 am

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Well, it would appear inappropriate to someone who isnt a Gearhead, and since Rising is catering to a to the fans as well as a different demographic, maybe they thought it wouldn't sit well?
"Bloods gotta be red, dafuq's this white shit? Looks more inappropriate than blood and gore on a god tier level because it also resembles semen somewhat"


Phantom Pain. Since Big Boss could have gotten a doner arm at any point after, hell even before MGS3, I'm really puzzled as to WTF is happening here, when its happening, and more importantly, who's invading the hospital. The sarrow doll could be a clue, it being in MGS4 as a tool passed down to Mantis by Ocelot or something. I bet all this crap happened to Snake before MGS3, Volgin, The Boss, etc, and he just cant remember any of it, because Zero f*cked with his head somehow, all of it somehow, probably with Nanomachines that didnt exist yet but they arent really Nanomachines but Nanomachine prototypes. all that leading up to Snake Eater. somehow

Or I'm delusional.
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Re: The Phantom Pain: MGS 5?

Postby Shadowman » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:11 am

Motto: "May God have mercy on my enemies, because I sure as hell won't."
BeastProwl wrote:Well, it would appear inappropriate to someone who isnt a Gearhead, and since Rising is catering to a to the fans as well as a different demographic, maybe they thought it wouldn't sit well?
"Bloods gotta be red, dafuq's this white shit? Looks more inappropriate than blood and gore on a god tier level because it also resembles semen somewhat"


Androids in the Aliens movies all have white blood, same with the androids from Ghost in the Shell, and the Geth from Mass Effect. Th Frozeners from Policenauts also have white blood, and since Kojima likes to reference older works of his, Raiden's white blood is a reference to that.

White blood is actually very common in cyberpunk and sci-fi settings.

Vamp sure as hell figured out what it looked like, though, but he's Vamp so, yeah.

BeastProwl wrote:Phantom Pain. Since Big Boss could have gotten a doner arm at any point after, hell even before MGS3, I'm really puzzled as to WTF is happening here, when its happening, and more importantly, who's invading the hospital. The sarrow doll could be a clue, it being in MGS4 as a tool passed down to Mantis by Ocelot or something. I bet all this crap happened to Snake before MGS3, Volgin, The Boss, etc, and he just cant remember any of it, because Zero f*cked with his head somehow, all of it somehow, probably with Nanomachines that didnt exist yet but they arent really Nanomachines but Nanomachine prototypes. all that leading up to Snake Eater. somehow


Couldn't be any of them messing with his head; Zero didn't turn into a supervillain until after Snake Eater, the Boss technically never turned into a supervillain, and Volgin never met Snake until Snake Eater.

And the lead-in to Snake Eater was fairly innocent; a Soviet engineer was forced back to the USSR as part of a deal to settle down the Cuban Missile Crisis. Snake's job was a straight-forward snatch-and-grab. It wasn't until the Boss switched teams and the Philosophers got involved that things started getting tricky.

BeastProwl wrote:Or I'm delusional.


Was that ever in doubt?
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Re: The Phantom Pain: MGS 5?

Postby BeastProwl » Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:08 am

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Then the removal of it is even more a mystery. Maybe it can be tweaked in the options? I hope so.

Well. Now to play the waiting game I suppose.
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Re: The Phantom Pain: MGS 5?

Postby Shadowman » Wed Mar 27, 2013 2:14 pm

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Kojima fools none: Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain confirmed.

And it's...Ground Zeroes? Now I'm confused. Hideo strikes again...
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Re: The Phantom Pain: MGS 5?

Postby BeastProwl » Wed Mar 27, 2013 2:49 pm

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Placeholder name?

Also, not to nuke a dead horse, but Raiden's skin is artificial, as his body was reconstructed, given the full treatment. (Its how he was able to speak without using his mouth in MGS4, he didnt really have one) So the prosthetics are 100 percent possible. Hell, Big Boss could have been reconstructed from mostly prosthetics in MGS4.

Its also possible, though I doubt they would do it, to save Solid Snake from dying off so early, turning him into a Cyborg to prolong his life, and give him some muscle if needed. In Rising, they never really acknowledge that he's dead, just talk like he might be, so its technically all possible. Its a concept to work with. Hell they may be able to reverse the effects now that all that info from the patriots has leaked. Technology leapt ahead years at the end of SOP.
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