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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby Darth Bombshell » Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:33 am

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Rodimus Prime wrote:I'll find out soon enough, I'm getting the nWo DVD coming out next week. They were in WWE in 2002, so there might be that logo on some of their matches.


I'm pretty sure there were, since both of their major matches happened @ Wrestlemania.

I picked up the Undertaker: Streak DVD when it came out, and for the four matches he had during that time (@ WM 14, 15, X-Seven and X8), the logo was blurred out. (Then again, it was more than likely put together before the deal was made, so they really couldn't have taken advantage of it...)
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:21 am

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I have been contemplating picking up that set, but I was waiting to see what happens at WrestleMania next year. If Taker wrestles, it was kinda stupid to make the set, as he will either be 21-0 or 20-1. If he decides to call it quits, I'll probably get the set, even though I have every WrestleMania on VHS and DVD already. How are the extras/documentary on the set? I know all about the matches, but I don't know what else is on there.

Also, have you heard anything about the upcoming Attitude Era DVD set? Amazon has it listed for Nov. 20th, but there's no info on it. I'd like to know about the highlights and list of matches...
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:30 am

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Rodimus Prime wrote:I have been contemplating picking up that set, but I was waiting to see what happens at WrestleMania next year. If Taker wrestles, it was kinda stupid to make the set, as he will either be 21-0 or 20-1. If he decides to call it quits, I'll probably get the set, even though I have every WrestleMania on VHS and DVD already. How are the extras/documentary on the set? I know all about the matches, but I don't know what else is on there.

Also, have you heard anything about the upcoming Attitude Era DVD set? Amazon has it listed for Nov. 20th, but there's no info on it. I'd like to know about the highlights and list of matches...


Depending on if Linda wins the election that set may not be coming out.
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:21 pm

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She won't. She failed last time, and she'll fail this time. She might get closer, especially if WWE hypes their immense support for curing breast cancer, but otherwise, she'll lose. She's too old to be a political rookie.
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby Darth Bombshell » Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:21 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:I have been contemplating picking up that set, but I was waiting to see what happens at WrestleMania next year. If Taker wrestles, it was kinda stupid to make the set, as he will either be 21-0 or 20-1. If he decides to call it quits, I'll probably get the set, even though I have every WrestleMania on VHS and DVD already. How are the extras/documentary on the set? I know all about the matches, but I don't know what else is on there.


The only other thing on the set is a paltry 35 minute documentary that pretty much tells the story of the Streak, and doesn't really go into that much detail to do so. If you're looking for bonus features of substantial value, don't bother looking here. (I only picked up the thing because it had UT WM matches I didn't have elsewhere.)

Rodimus Prime wrote:Also, have you heard anything about the upcoming Attitude Era DVD set? Amazon has it listed for Nov. 20th, but there's no info on it. I'd like to know about the highlights and list of matches...


I haven't heard much about it, other than the release date (which is November 20th), and that it'll be a three disc set, much like other WWE DVD releases. I can only assume that it'll include a documentary on one disc and a collection of "historically important" matches on the other two.
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:40 pm

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Yeah, I wish they'd put out the info. I was gonna get Foley's Hard Knocks DVD for the epic Empty Arena match on halftime Heat (remember that awesomeness?) but if it's on the Attitude set, I'm getting that.
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby Darth Bombshell » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:00 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:Yeah, I wish they'd put out the info. I was gonna get Foley's Hard Knocks DVD for the epic Empty Arena match on halftime Heat (remember that awesomeness?) but if it's on the Attitude set, I'm getting that.


I think they'll probably put out the info closer to the release date.

And yeah. I remember the Empty Arena match, though I never saw it up here (I live in Canada).
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby Darth Bombshell » Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:11 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:I'll find out soon enough, I'm getting the nWo DVD coming out next week. They were in WWE in 2002, so there might be that logo on some of their matches.


I picked up the set earlier today and just plopped in the first disc into my DVD player. I can confirm that the WWF scratch logo and utterances of the "WWF" initials are NOT censored out. (Although the watermark on the lower left hand corner of the footage is still the bolded WWE logo…for some reason.)
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:30 pm

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I watched (and liked) the documentary, and I didn't even pay attention to it. I'm just now getting into the Blu-Ray special features. I can't believe how much I actually forgot about this stuff. Makes it worth it to live through it all over again. I miss those days...

As for the logo in the corner, even though they get the rights back to WWF, they won't go back to it. They will keep WWE as they focus on Entertainment, so the WWE logo will stay. They just won't have to cover up WWF anymore.
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby Darth Bombshell » Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:47 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:I watched (and liked) the documentary, and I didn't even pay attention to it. I'm just now getting into the Blu-Ray special features. I can't believe how much I actually forgot about this stuff. Makes it worth it to live through it all over again. I miss those days...


I know. And it makes me happy that I'll be able to finally buy/watch WWE DVD's with footage from the Attitude Era without feeling like I'm watching an episode of COPS.

Rodimus Prime wrote:As for the logo in the corner, even though they get the rights back to WWF, they won't go back to it. They will keep WWE as they focus on Entertainment, so the WWE logo will stay. They just won't have to cover up WWF anymore.


OK, granted, but do they have to use the bolded version of it? I mean, I've seen DVD's with footage that uses the regular version of the logo. Can't they use that?
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Tue Nov 06, 2012 6:02 pm

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Meh, I've learned to ignore it. It's still noticeable when a doc features old footage that's not available in widescreen, and the screen goes from full to wide and back, but otherwise it's easily overlooked, for me anyway.
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby Darth Bombshell » Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:28 pm

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I just put the third disc in to watch the match from Raw, and they use the normal WWF scratch logo watermark for it. Good to know, though it still doesn't explain why they use the bolded WWE logo for the No Way Out footage.
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:01 am

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Darth Bombshell wrote:I just put the third disc in to watch the match from Raw, and they use the normal WWF scratch logo watermark for it. Good to know, though it still doesn't explain why they use the bolded WWE logo for the No Way Out footage.



It might have to do with when the ban on their use of WWF exactly went into effect. I know it was early 2002, so maybe it happened between those 2 shows?
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby Darth Bombshell » Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:33 am

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Rodimus Prime wrote:It might have to do with when the ban on their use of WWF exactly went into effect. I know it was early 2002, so maybe it happened between those 2 shows?


No Way Out was in Feburary. That match from Raw was in March.
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:29 am

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Who knows. I did miss a few things that I thought should have been on the set:

-Nash powerbombing Bischoff through the stage at Great American Bash
-Luger beating Hogan on Nitro
-Goldberg beating Hogan on Nitro

and I'm not even to their WWE stuff yet.
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby Darth Bombshell » Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:35 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:I did miss a few things that I thought should have been on the set:

-Luger beating Hogan on Nitro
-Goldberg beating Hogan on Nitro


I'm pretty sure that at least one of those (Goldberg beating Hogan) is on the Best of Nitro set.
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:24 pm

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I'm not getting that set, there's too much junk on it. And now that Linda lost the Senate race (again) hopefully she'll give up and the WWE can loosen up a little bit again. I'm tired of this Mickey Mouse crap.
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby Darth Bombshell » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:43 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:I'm not getting that set, there's too much junk on it.


Maybe so, but it also has the first (and quite probably only) DVD appearance of Chris Benoit since the murder-suicide. Of course, there's still no mention of his name, but it was still surprising to me that Vince signed off on that footage. (Of course, his appearances revolved around the reformation of the Horsemen and Ric Flair beating Bischoff to get the Presidency of WCW, both of which were important, so I guess they felt they HAD to include it, regardless of how they felt about him being there.)

Rodimus Prime wrote:And now that Linda lost the Senate race (again) hopefully she'll give up and the WWE can loosen up a little bit again. I'm tired of this Mickey Mouse crap.


I'll be happy if they can stop shoving Shreeky Guerrero down my throat. My dislike of her has long since passed the point where I'm hating the actual person more than the character they play, and whenever I watch these days (which isn't often anyway), I always change the channel whenever she shows up.

In other news, they released the cover art for the WWE Attitude set today (so I guess it's still gonna happen). It's an homage to the cover of the Beatles' "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" album, with the majority of the superstars of the era covered.
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:39 pm

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Not bad, but there's still no contact description. the set comes out in 2 weeks! Hopefully it'll be strictly WWE from 1998-2004. That's what I consider the height of the Attitude Era, though I think it may stretch as far as early 2007, when there was still blood in the matches.
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

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Rodimus Prime wrote:Not bad, but there's still no contact description. the set comes out in 2 weeks! Hopefully it'll be strictly WWE from 1998-2004. That's what I consider the height of the Attitude Era, though I think it may stretch as far as early 2007, when there was still blood in the matches.


Officially, the Attitude era began in November 1997 (after Survivor Series), and more or less came to an end around Wrestlemania X-Seven, once the Monday Night War was over. So I'm pretty sure whatever's going to be on the set (which I'm sure they'll announce over the upcoming weekend) will be from around that period.
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby Darth Bombshell » Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:53 pm

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So Lawler returned to Raw tonight, which you would think would be awesome. And yeah, it was awesome...

...till CM Punk arrived, and basically went after Lawler again like he had been before the whole thing went down, as if nothing had happened.

Now, I have to believe that CM Punk the person actually doesn't feel that way in real life, but I honestly wanted to change the channel during that whole thing. I mean, let's face it. WWE has been guilty of a lot of stupid things, but I think that was, beyond any shadow of a doubt, the dumbest thing they've ever done. And when you consider some of the things they've done...

I also have to wonder about who on the creative team signed off on that...
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Postby Rodimus Prime » Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:32 am

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I don't think it was the dumbest thing ever. They've done some really dumb **** before. I knew there was gonna be something, they couldn't just let Lawler have a good moment and sit down at the announcers' table. But it was kind of mild, compared to what I was expecting. Also, when they showed backstage footage of Lawler being worked on, it occurred to me that this could actually be an elaborate angle, that it was all a work, but I'm not so sure.

Seeing the more adult-themed direction Cena has gone in regarding AJ, and having the ambulance present (symbolizing imminent serious injury on TV) during the Ryback-Maddox match, it's good to see they're taking a small step away from the kiddie-friendly PG crap. Who knows, maybe they will loosen up a bit, and we'll get to see some serious stuff soon. I can't even remember the last time I saw a chairshot on Raw. Nevermind to the head, but even to the back. When was the last time they destroyed the announcers' tables on TV?

And that actually surprised me, that Maddox didn't win. I was sure they would pull some lame crap with CM Punk or something. Even after, I thought they would overturn the decision and award the match to Maddox because Ryback beat his ass all the way back to the ambulance.

Overall, this was a good Raw. Better than the last few weeks. And is The Miz finally getting his overdue face turn? I've been cheering for him since he beat Cena at WMXXVII. Even if it was due to the Rock.
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:39 am

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Seeing the more adult-themed direction Cena has gone in regarding AJ, and having the ambulance present (symbolizing imminent serious injury on TV) during the Ryback-Maddox match, it's good to see they're taking a small step away from the kiddie-friendly PG crap. Who knows, maybe they will loosen up a bit, and we'll get to see some serious stuff soon. I can't even remember the last time I saw a chairshot on Raw. Nevermind to the head, but even to the back. When was the last time they destroyed the announcers' tables on TV?

And that actually surprised me, that Maddox didn't win. I was sure they would pull some lame crap with CM Punk or something. Even after, I thought they would overturn the decision and award the match to Maddox because Ryback beat his ass all the way back to the ambulance.

Overall, this was a good Raw. Better than the last few weeks. And is The Miz finally getting his overdue face turn? I've been cheering for him since he beat Cena at WMXXVII. Even if it was due to the Rock.


I was thinking the same thing as I saw the backstage footage. I don't know the laws in Montreal but if a Dr. says if you don't belong here to leave, you leave, or you could be breaking the law. Last time I checked camera men aren't necessary in a medical room
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

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Rodimus Prime wrote:they couldn't just let Lawler have a good moment and sit down at the announcers' table.


Um...yeah. They could have. The guy almost died. Apparently, if we're to believe it, he did die, and we should all be thankful that Lawler was even there, instead of turning it into a stupid angle that's only going to alienate people in the long run.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Also, when they showed backstage footage of Lawler being worked on, it occurred to me that this could actually be an elaborate angle, that it was all a work, but I'm not so sure.


I watched the RAW when it happened, but not to the point when Lawler had his heart attack, so I don’t know how things played out. I did hear Michael Cole’s announcement from the end of the show on the radio the next day, and it didn’t sound to me like it was a angle. (It wouldn't have been on the radio, for one thing...)

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I was thinking the same thing as I saw the backstage footage. I don't know the laws in Montreal but if a Dr. says if you don't belong here to leave, you leave, or you could be breaking the law. Last time I checked camera men aren't necessary in a medical room


Considering it was a real life situation, I think it was important for the WWE to show us that.
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

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No to be too off topic, but whatever happened to Luther Reigns?

Also, Amazon finally listed the contents of the Attitude Era set. NO "This is Your Life" segment! What the hell? It's the highest rated segment in the history of wrestling, IIRC, and no mention of it? WOW. Also, no Empty Arena Match or Hell in a Cell 1998? But we get D-Lo vs. Jeff Jarrett from SummerSlam. Wonderful. :?
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