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WrestleMania XI. Back when Pam Anderson looked good. And if LT wasn't such a crackhead, he'd be in the celebrity wing of the WWE HOF by now, or at least he should be.

WrestleMania XII. The Iron Man match, my all-time favorite match, and probably the greatest in WM history. And the fight between Piper and Goldust? LMFAO!

WrestleMania 13. The "I Quit" match was probably Steve Austin at his best. And I wish Sid kept the title. Maybe lost by DQ or something...

Rodimus Prime wrote:WrestleMania XII. The Iron Man match, my all-time favorite match, and probably the greatest in WM history. And the fight between Piper and Goldust? LMFAO!

And to think it was one of the lowest performing WM

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:WrestleMania XII. The Iron Man match, my all-time favorite match, and probably the greatest in WM history. And the fight between Piper and Goldust? LMFAO!

And to think it was one of the lowest performing WM

On PPV buyrates? The undercard kinda sucked, but those 2 matches were just pure awesome. Except the wrong man won the Iron Man match.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:WrestleMania XII. The Iron Man match, my all-time favorite match, and probably the greatest in WM history. And the fight between Piper and Goldust? LMFAO!

And to think it was one of the lowest performing WM

On PPV buyrates? The undercard kinda sucked, but those 2 matches were just pure awesome. Except the wrong man won the Iron Man match.

yeah buyrates. It was during a down period for the company

WrestleMania 14. **** card, **** venue, **** crowd. With the exception of the main event, it was a total waste of time and money. Definitely the worst WM in history.

Rodimus Prime wrote:WrestleMania 14. **** card, **** venue, **** crowd. With the exception of the main event, it was a total waste of time and money. Definitely the worst WM in history.

What was the main event?

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:WrestleMania 14. **** card, **** venue, **** crowd. With the exception of the main event, it was a total waste of time and money. Definitely the worst WM in history.

What was the main event?

Austin vs. Michaels. Tyson was the outside referee.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:WrestleMania 14. **** card, **** venue, **** crowd. With the exception of the main event, it was a total waste of time and money. Definitely the worst WM in history.

What was the main event?

Austin vs. Michaels. Tyson was the outside referee.

Ah yes. I remember that. The official birth of the Austin era

chuckdawg1999 wrote: The official birth of the Austin era

I always thought that was the year before. That "I Quit" match with Bret made him. I mean, he was already accomplished in WCW and had talent, but that seriously cemented him as The Man.

Come to think of it, Bret "made" a lot of guys.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote: The official birth of the Austin era

I always thought that was the year before. That "I Quit" match with Bret made him. I mean, he was already accomplished in WCW and had talent, but that seriously cemented him as The Man.

Come to think of it, Bret "made" a lot of guys.

I'm just following the company line. To me Austin was a star after his feud with Chris Adams in WCCW but that might just be me. You're right about Bret. I remember reading a story about WWF in the mid 80's about how Vince found the next Hogan in an Australian weight lifter. He had muscles and could do a back flip; that was all. His first match was with Bret who made him look so good Vince was sure he had a license to print money.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
I'm just following the company line. To me Austin was a star after his feud with Chris Adams in WCCW but that might just be me.

I agree, that did kick him off to be a big deal. But in WWE, he went through the Ringmaster, then even as Stone Cold he had DiBiase with him and he wasn't really let loose. When that feud with Bret came around in 1996, he played it right, (talked good on the mic, didn't get hurt) and milked the rub he got from Bret for all its worth. It culminated in "I Quit", and even if he actually did quit, he still would have been made.

You're right about Bret. I remember reading a story about WWF in the mid 80's about how Vince found the next Hogan in an Australian weight lifter. He had muscles and could do a back flip; that was all. His first match was with Bret who made him look so good Vince was sure he had a license to print money.

Hmm. Haven't heard that. I do own Bret's book from 2008, I've been planning on picking it up and reading it again. Maybe he'll mention it there.

WrestleMania XV. A huge improvement over 14. It was a lot of fun.

WrestleMania 16. Also a disappointing event, with a crap finish to the main event. TLC stole the show, though.

Rodimus Prime wrote:TLC stole the show, though.

It's sad when you consider that, of the six guys involved in that match, only Edge managed to make a career out of himself. (Christian did pretty OK, I guess, but not on Edge's level. The Dudleys are still currently puttering around in TNA, right? And we ALL know what happened to the Hardys...)

Darth Bombshell wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:TLC stole the show, though.

It's sad when you consider that, of the six guys involved in that match, only Edge managed to make a career out of himself. (Christian did pretty OK, I guess, but not on Edge's level. The Dudleys are still currently puttering around in TNA, right? And we ALL know what happened to the Hardys...)

Well, all that depends of a lot of things. Out of those guys, only Edge and Jeff Hardy were really charismatic. Christian as well, but as you said, not on Edge's level. The Dudleys are a package, they went a lot further as a tag team than they would have as individuals. I don't watch TNA (but I might start if Raw keeps going the way it is. WWE sucks now. They really dropped the ball with Lesnar.) so i don't know what they do. They Hardys? Yeah, that's a sad story. I think that even as a tag team or as individuals they had a lot of promise. They fulfilled some of them. But, they let the WWE abuse them and take advantage of them with all those TLC and Ladder matches and stuff, and now their bodies are paying the price. And the usual result is that they get hooked on painkillers and other stuff, and that's what happened to both of them. I think Jeff is worse off than Matt. I always thought that they could have turned Matt into a clean-cut Bret Hart-type character and wrestler. He even looks like a young Bret a little. But yeah, considering Edge, where he has been and that he ended up in the HOF, he definitely did the most with what he had. And a lot of people are begrudging him and the WWE the fact that he is in and a lot of other "deserving" old guys aren't. I think Edge deserves the HOF, and the other people are kept out by politics on both sides. It has nothing to do with recognition of talent.

WrestleMania X-Seven. Much better than the previous, though I sometimes I still can't believe that finish to the main event. It effectively turned me off as a die-hard wrestling fan. After Austin's turn, I became more of a casual observer than a fan.

WrestleMania X-8 was pretty good. I can't believe Rock vs. Hogan wasn't the main event. I know there weren't "titles" on the line, but it was much more anticipated and a higher-energy match than HHH vs. Jericho. Only thing that match had over Icon vs. Icon was Stephanie in that skintight jumpsuit. DAMN.

Rodimus Prime wrote:WrestleMania X-8 was pretty good. I can't believe Rock vs. Hogan wasn't the main event. I know there weren't "titles" on the line, but it was much more anticipated and a higher-energy match than HHH vs. Jericho. Only thing that match had over Icon vs. Icon was Stephanie in that skintight jumpsuit. DAMN.

at the time no one knew that Hogan was going to get that kind of reaction or the match would be THAT good.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:WrestleMania X-8 was pretty good. I can't believe Rock vs. Hogan wasn't the main event. I know there weren't "titles" on the line, but it was much more anticipated and a higher-energy match than HHH vs. Jericho. Only thing that match had over Icon vs. Icon was Stephanie in that skintight jumpsuit. DAMN.

at the time no one knew that Hogan was going to get that kind of reaction or the match would be THAT good.

Yeah, but Hogan and Rock are still bigger names than HHH and Jericho.

WrestleMania XIX has to be one of the best overall PPVs. There were no weak matches on the card, the opener (Matt Hardy vs. Rey Mysterio) was the worst one, and it was pretty damn good.

WrestleMania XX. Regardless of what Benoit did outside of the ring, he was a damn good performer. He deserved that win.

WrestleMania 21. It was a lot of fun. Sadly, it began the championship run of Cena, thus diminishing the WWE title. Much like Mysterio did the year later and Daniel Bryan did recently with the world championship.

Rodimus Prime wrote:WrestleMania XX. Regardless of what Benoit did outside of the ring, he was a damn good performer. He deserved that win.

Yeah. Too bad it's unlikely to be remembered by anyone outside the current generation (unless they managed to get ahold of and keep handy DVD's pre-The Event), thanks to Vince McMahon's habit of whitewashing his hands of all responsibility.

You ever supposed the WWE will be able to get past what happened and add Benoit back to their library?

Darth Bombshell wrote:You ever supposed the WWE will be able to get past what happened and add Benoit back to their library?

Not as long as Vince is around. Even if he retires from the WWE altogether, I doubt Shane and Stephanie would do anything to go against him. After he dies (he's 66!) in about 20 years, maybe whoever runs the place (Shane is 42 now) will restore some of the footage, especially the WrestleMania stuff.

WrestleMania 22. Kind of a lame event, but not as bad as 14. Mysterio and Cena winning totally flushed it down the crapper, but a few things did make it memorable, such as HBK vs. McMahon, and the Hall of Fame. Too bad Vince decided to tear into Bret Hart for refusing to appear at WrestleMania.