Sabrblade wrote:But how do you know that this particular story will also use Hasbro names when nothing in what we have been told about this story (not the toyline, the story) have said so?
How about I repeat this, instead of working on the blueprints tied to my Transformers collection, future DVD/BD purchases, and my upcoming birthday?
UNITED toyline was created by Takara Tomy as a new means of taking existing molds from Hasbro's Classics, Generations, etc., and turning them into a new series-based toyline. They are doing this for the Japanese fanbase that has no prior ties or knowledge to the Hasbro fiction, but they hope would be interested in this line.
In other words, Takara Tomy has made it clear: THE STORY HAPPENS WITHIN THE ENTIRE CONTINUITY THAT THEY CREATED FOR THE UNITED LINE, BUT DID NOT GO FAR BECAUSE IT OBVIOUSLY DID NOT SELL AS WELL AS THEY HAD PLANNED.
Is this clear enough? Can I move on? Or do I need to explain the importance of creating a franchise, the importance of having canon-based events, and how Takara handled their G1 toyline when they capped it off with Operation Combination in 1992?
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Sabrblade wrote:But what's wrong with using Chip Chase? That's his Japanese name too.
*facepalm* Did I say that? No. I think we are done here, as you are disorganizing the facts being told to you just because you chose to not connect the two series... Even though this is exactly how they did things with the final series I mentioned above.
Because if you follow the Japanese G1 continuity, you will find that both Takara Tomy and Toei Animation alienated all characters created/co-created by Hasbro when they ended Headmasters. And that from Super-God Masterforce to the Micron Trilogy, they used characters that were targeted by a Japanese audience.
This clearly is evidence since they are using a character that was primarily created by Hasbro, as in the fact that this line is using a Western influence and not an Eastern influence.
Sabrblade wrote:How do you know that that's what this particular story is going to do when nothing about has said so?
Because I have been, the entire time, reading up on the UNITED line? How about the fact that I also compared how they handled Headmasters to Zone, Car Robots, the Micron Trilogy, and Henkei! Henkei! to how they handled the movies, Animated, PRIME, and UNITED?
If Takara Tomy wanted this to not be aimed at Hasbro-based fiction, they would have continued the traditions created by them from 1987-1992. This means that they would have focused on a Japanese scientist to have created the project. However, continuing where they stopped with UNITED (and using Operation Combination's historical significance to this line), they are not doing that and making it more as a possible continuation of where The Rebirth left off (if this is the case).
Sabrblade wrote:Why can't this be another case like Macrocosmic Seekers?
Seriously... I am done. UNITED, as I explained from time to time, is nothing more than Takara Tomy's attempt at unifying their G1 timeline with that of Hasbro's. Macrocosmic Seekers is proof of this, as they created an event that can be placed in both the Japanese G1 continuity and this one. The only difference are the names that e-HOBBY used in the story.
In the UNITED/UNITED EX continuity, if it is the same as the Japanese G1 continuity, you have three periods it can happen... Especially since Chip Chase is involved: Latter 1990s, 2000-2003, and the period of time between Headmasters and Super-God Masterforce.
Latter 1990s, the U.S. Government teamed up with the Cybertrons. This could lead to the events happening in this series, but we have to rule it out since both factions were on Earth. 2000-2003 is more plausible, as the story is more centered on North America and not Japan (Car Robots). And the final mention is also plausible, especially since it allows the events started by Hasbro get a finishing touch... And allow characters long forgotten get a final bow.
Like I said before, while trying to not sound like a jerk or a noob: I pretty much know my Transformers continuities, and try avoid knowing more than the Japanese G1 timeline because it pulls me away from other things I enjoy.
As in repeating the fact that from 1985-2006, Takara and Hasbro paralleled each others works with elements that work for their respective works. From 2006 to now, the only change was the merger between Takara and Tomy. And from 2010 to 2012, Takara Tomy has been trying to parallel the Aligned continuity and Generations series with UNITED. UNITED became UNITED EX, much like how Operation Combination capped off their 7 year toyline.
And also, the name change also reflects why they are bringing the Generations 2 line to Japan, instead of continuing it in the UNITED line. And the way it is written, unless you believe that fansubs always use factual translations, it is capping off the UNITED line... As well as being an element that Takara Tomy may allow to bleed into the main timeline (as they have two solid areas, and one possible area with Chip Chase being involved).
Now if you don't mind... I currently dislike the entire UNITED franchise because its lack of direction and lack of substance allowed this to happen. Which I may thank you, as it means I can focus on other series I have been ignoring (ever since I joined this site in hopes of actually having fun and not this).