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Re: The TF you want but you know Hasbro will NEVER make... ;_;

Postby Noshrok Grimskull » Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:47 am

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I think I mentioned Octus on this thread before, but yeah, it would be great to have one. :)

And speaking of Masterpiece figures: I'd love to see a MP Doubledealer and a MP Punch/Counterpunch.
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- a gun barrel for Classics Jetfire's (the little black thingy that plugs onto the front of his swing-out shoulder cannons)
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Re: The TF you want but you know Hasbro will NEVER make... ;_;

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:06 am

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Noshrok Grimskull wrote:I think I mentioned Octus on this thread before, but yeah, it would be great to have one. :)

And speaking of Masterpiece figures: I'd love to see a MP Doubledealer and a MP Punch/Counterpunch.


Hell yeah! I want a MP Doubledealer. Unfortunately, this is REALLY a obscure character that will NEVER have the honnow of such a treatment. I would be satisfied with just a Voyager update. Heck, just a triple changer without the locking gimmick nor the engines would do.

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Re: The TF you want but you know Hasbro will NEVER make... ;_;

Postby Geminii » Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:38 am

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AdamFett wrote:Updated Deluxe Soundwave. Like a figure paying direct homage to G1, but completely modernized.


The problem with a modern Soundwave is that pretty much all audio processing functions can now be done on a chip, meaning that the outer shell of an audio device can be made to look like anything - there's no form-follows-function any more. Sure, there's still identifiable audio equipment such as headphones and speaker stacks, but they're not signal sources.

Not to mention that the Cassetticons have an even worse problem. Audio today is mostly medialess. People swap music files on generic data media instead of having physical items which are specifically associated with music storage. The CD was the last mass generic format of any note, and it doesn't really lend itself to toyetic transformations.

Soundwave has the problem that he has several established aspects. His altmode is associated with audio, it's nonmobile, compact, and something humans might pick up, carry around, and generally overlook. It carries the altmodes of the Cassetticons internally, in a format which again is expected by humans.

There just isn't anything on the market at the moment which is sufficiently widespread enough to be able to hit all these targets. Sure, you could make a Soundwave who was a comms van, or a hypersonic tank, or a satellite or spy plane, but there's no way Hasbro would release any of those in Masterpiece format, because they're not G1 enough. In fact, only a 1980s walkman-format microcassette recorder would work for any toy aimed at the high-end collectors, and even then they'd lose the more recent market. There are still trucks and guns and planes and sports cars around even now, but Soundwave's classic altmode is irreversibly associated with the 80s.

Honestly, the closest match today would be a smartphone - but there just isn't a single iconic smartphone 'look', and the external details change from year to year so often that you couldn't even make him something like this year's iPhone, because he'd look old in six to twelve months, let alone another 25 years. Likewise, signal processing equipment of any kind is all about the microchips and internal circuitry - their external appearance is solely the demesne of the marketing department and is not linked to their inherent abilities.

It's the same reason you don't get mainstream Transformers which turn into computers (Device Label editions not being mainstream, and Real Gear being a short-lived movie tie-in line). The external appearances of real-world equipment simply change too rapidly. Plus, of course, most electronics gear these days is solid-state, meaning little in the way of action features.

Finally, Transformers' altmodes tend towards the category of "cool things that kids don't generally get to use". There's no point in making a Transformer which turns into this year's games console if a kid already has that console - they may as well just play with the real thing. Making a Soundwave which turns into something kids use every day (smartphone, computer, tablet, games console) fails to engage the imagination - kids who get such a toy wouldn't need to imagine themselves playing with the real thing if they already have it.
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Re: The TF you want but you know Hasbro will NEVER make... ;_;

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:35 am

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You made valid points about Soudwave classic form being forever stuck in the 1980's. I personally have no problems with that.

However, you partially right at the last part of your leignhty post. Little kids LOVE to play pretend. Sure, they dont need a fake something they already have, but they will play pretend with a fake something that is easely accessible in their house. Tools and kitchenware being the best examples. Jeez, I saw a 200$ "fake kitchen" for sale at TrU so a little girl (sorry feminists, dont deny the female nature) would pretend to cook. Instead of paying such a toy, I would have my kid help me out in the kitchen instead for a better learning experience... still, this would turn playtime into worktime and the kid cannot make it's "crayon and turkey cake". So yeah, they love to have fake things to pretend anything. That's why the real G1 Soundwave was so great. At the time, nobody left 1000$ walkmans and cassette players in the hands of little kids. So they played pretend. Plus, it was even better because it change into a bitchin' robot!

Now, little kids can even play with I-Phones because they are cheap devices with a very boring basic shape.

So, here's my suggestion for a modernised Soundwave:.......................................................blank.........................................okay I have no idea but the cassetrons are basically spies so they can have a "Real Gear" line redux just for them. Would Hasbro make that? We never know...
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Re: The TF you want but you know Hasbro will NEVER make... ;_;

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:47 am

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To continue with a modernised Soundwave, a Classics Soundwave has been planned, as a mini-van. If you're thinking too far-fetched, not quite, as Soundwave is associated with music, and many rock bands use such mini-vans, especially the highly customizable Scions. Look at Animated Soundwave for instance. What I would add though is flip-out spy gear on the roof.

As for his minions, I haven't got the faintest idea. Movie Booster X-10 made a great Laserbeak. though :)
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Re: The TF you want but you know Hasbro will NEVER make... ;_;

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:59 am

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:As for his minions, I haven't got the faintest idea. Movie Booster X-10 made a great Laserbeak. though :)


In TF Prime, Lazerbeak is just part of Soundwave's body. That's a very interesting concept.

So why not have a TF-Prime style Soundwave (transform into a spydrone) that is leader size, with 6 parts of his body that hide minions? The Chest hide Laserbeak, left arm hide Rumble, right arm hide Frenzy, right leg hide Ravage, left leg hide Rat-Bat, and the crotch hide a Tentacle Monster! 8-}
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Re: The TF you want but you know Hasbro will NEVER make... ;_;

Postby RAcast » Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:05 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:As for his minions, I haven't got the faintest idea. Movie Booster X-10 made a great Laserbeak. though :)


In TF Prime, Lazerbeak is just part of Soundwave's body. That's a very interesting concept.

So why not have a TF-Prime style Soundwave (transform into a spydrone) that is leader size, with 6 parts of his body that hide minions? The Chest hide Laserbeak, left arm hide Rumble, right arm hide Frenzy, right leg hide Ravage, left leg hide Rat-Bat, and the crotch hide a Tentacle Monster! 8-}

That would be amazing!
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Re: The TF you want but you know Hasbro will NEVER make... ;_;

Postby Arctorro » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:37 am

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-Kanrabat- wrote:and the crotch hide a Tentacle Monster! 8-}


That just screams "instant hit" :lol:
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Re: The TF you want but you know Hasbro will NEVER make... ;_;

Postby Breakdown 2099 » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:46 am

Arctorro wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:and the crotch hide a Tentacle Monster! 8-}


That just screams "instant hit" :lol:

Put me down for two!
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Re: The TF you want but you know Hasbro will NEVER make... ;_;

Postby Arctorro » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:28 pm

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Breakdown 2099 wrote:
Arctorro wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:and the crotch hide a Tentacle Monster! 8-}


That just screams "instant hit" :lol:

Put me down for two!


They could play "Tentacle Monster" together.

Did I just say that? :shock: :D
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Re: The TF you want but you know Hasbro will NEVER make... ;_;

Postby zappatton2 » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:28 am

And that's why we need MP Tentakil. I'd be down with that!!
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Re: The TF you want but you know Hasbro will NEVER make... ;_;

Postby -Kanrabat- » Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:36 pm

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The GENERATION line is supposed to encompass all of the Transformers universes.

So, I'll humbly request a GENERATIONS: GO BOTS line. Deluxe and modern update of Leader-One, Cy-Kill, Zeemon, Baron Von Joy, Tux, and all the main Go Bots that have stupid puns as names.

Sigh...

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Re: The TF you want but you know Hasbro will NEVER make... ;_;

Postby Rushie » Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:59 pm

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I would actually love a figure based on Animated Tux/Stretch from AllSpark Almanac 2, who in turn is based on Go-Bots tux.

http://a-loft-on-cybertron.deviantart.com/art/Animated-Tux-170660163

and a nice Cy-Kill to go with Wreck-Gar, Oil Slick and similar deluxe hogs.
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Re: The TF you want but you know Hasbro will NEVER make... ;_;

Postby craggy » Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:21 pm

some Go-Bots, or at least homages to them, would be nice. We got Crasher, didn't we? Cy-kill, Leader-1, Turbo, etc. would be ok, and some of them fairly easy to do. Leader-1 is basically Dirge looking backwards, right?

The Go-bots also had some quite unique alt-modes, Tux being a good example. It's not that I mind every 2nd TF being either a sports car or a plane or tank of some indeterminate type, but variety is the spice of life. I bet a lot of people bought Scalpel, or Ejector just because they were funny lookin'.
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Re: The TF you want but you know Hasbro will NEVER make... ;_;

Postby Evil_the_Nub » Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:20 pm

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I've always wanted a Transformer that resembles the grim reaper with a hearse alt mode. It's a hell of a stretch, but if Bludgeon can pull off the skeleton samurai look I suppose it's possible.
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Re: The TF you want but you know Hasbro will NEVER make... ;_;

Postby Nemesis Primal » Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:20 pm

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Voyager-class TF: Prime Insecticon. Preferably with a Hardshell redeco down the line.
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Re: The TF you want but you know Hasbro will NEVER make... ;_;

Postby PrymeStriker » Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:40 pm

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What I want:

* Prime Deluxe Smokescreen, all new mold
* Prime Voyager Shockwave, all new mold
* Prime Voyager Insecticon, all new mold

What we'll get:

* Prime Deluxe Smokescreen, retool of Prime Knock Out
* Prime Deluxe Shockwave, repaint of FoC Shockwave
* Prime Deluxe Insecticon, retool of FoC Kickback

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Re: The TF you want but you know Hasbro will NEVER make... ;_;

Postby craggy » Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:48 pm

Forget Prime, and WFC/FOC and all of that. I want...and won't get...some IDW TFs.

Deluxes:
Wave 1 : RID
Arcee
Prowl
Metalhawk
Sky-Byte
Blurr
Ironhide

Wave 2: MTMTE
Chromedome
Tailgate (w/ Rewind)
Ratchet
Drift
Skids
Rodimus

Wave 3: MTMTE
Brainstorm
Swerve (w/ Rung)
Whirl
Spinister
Fulcrum
Vos

Voyagers:
Wave 1:
Turmoil
Ultra Magnus

Wave 2:
Tarn
Fortress Maximus

Wave 3:
Grimlock
Overlord

Leader/Supreme class:
Omega Supreme
Monstructor

that'd keep me happy for a while.
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Re: The TF you want but you know Hasbro will NEVER make... ;_;

Postby Noshrok Grimskull » Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:33 pm

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IDW you say?

Give me Twin Twist, Topspin and Rotorstorm!
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- a gun barrel for Classics Jetfire's (the little black thingy that plugs onto the front of his swing-out shoulder cannons)
- the rotor for Micromaster Tracer (from the Military Patrol)

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Re: The TF you want but you know Hasbro will NEVER make... ;_;

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Re: The TF you want but you know Hasbro will NEVER make... ;_;

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:46 am

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Arms Micron Arcee, HASBRO version...

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Re: The TF you want but you know Hasbro will NEVER make... ;_;

Postby RhA » Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:54 am

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That was the first thing I thought of when I first saw AM Arcee. Seeing it now isn't funny, it just makes sense.
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Re: The TF you want but you know Hasbro will NEVER make... ;_;

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:07 am

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RhA wrote:That was the first thing I thought of when I first saw AM Arcee. Seeing it now isn't funny, it just makes sense.


Yeah, I bet someone, somewhere, made the mod. What were they thinking, making the micron's port in that shape, and especially PINK?

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Re: The TF you want but you know Hasbro will NEVER make... ;_;

Postby Skywarp64 » Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:21 am

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Okay, I've got one more. Remember the Animated legends class molds? Optimus, Bee, Screamer, and Prowl?

Well, I think it'd be awesome to have a legends-scale version of Animated Megatron. It'd be useful since there's already a Prime and a Scream, and it would help balance the power of the set since it previously consisted of 3 Autobots and only 1 Decepticon.
Does anyone have Cybertron Optimus Prime's wings hanging around that they don't need?

I never managed to attach the wings to mine and I thought I'd stashed them somewhere to try again later, but now I can't seem to find them anywhere. Anyone has 'em and is willing to sell 'em, please contact me.

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Re: The TF you want but you know Hasbro will NEVER make... ;_;

Postby Philosophus Prime » Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:32 pm

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Greetings all! I'm new here, and this topic looks like one I'd like to weight in on, so it should be fitting for a first post.

Animated Omega Supreme

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Classics/Universe Sky Lynx (Preferably Leader Class, though Voyager would be fine)

Also, since the topic is about Hasbro not making figures we want... I'm still waiting for my Cybertron Starscream Voyager Class... and I know I'm waiting in vain... :KREMZEEK:
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