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As a kid I liked both Transformers and Gobots. early on I remember more than one kid who used the Gobot Renegade Fitor as an autobot jet before the airealbots gave the autobots air power. What really pushed me to transformers was getting attached to the dinobots and the gestalts and finding them cool as a kid. I had 2 gobots as a kid (jeepers creepers and nuggit) and lots of transformers. Though I liked nuggit I disliked Jeepers because being small and metal made him hard to transform and I had to ask for help to do it. I do remember their was one gobot I really wanted as a kid (I wanted every transformer), it was destroyer, the tank witha turret as a head. A character design I still find cool. Though I liked transformers better, I never hated gobots like some fans do.

I love Go-Bots.

I want the main characters, and those same main characters from the movie as well.

I don't need Spoons and others like that in my collection.

Heck, I even went to the trouble of taking my Go-Bots videos (Challenge Of The Go-Bots: The Battle For Go-Botron, Challenge Of The Go-Bots: The Go-Botron Saga, and Go-Bots: Battle Of The Rock Lords) all on DVD. (I do so love having a DVD Recorder on my TV.)

ShGarland_1383 wrote:It's kind of ironic that Hotrod goes into the history of the two lines some here. Even though the recent G1CS Soundwave reissue is actually a repaint of Soundblaster, it still has the Copyright 1974/1983 inside the battery compartment. 83 would of course be because Soundblaster was a retool of G1 Soundwave to begin with; '74 is likely because Soundwave was originally released as a Microchange Cassetteman.

CassetteMan was released in Japan 1981. But the patent for the design was submitted in 1974, just like the Megatron one. Intended for the GI Joe / Micro series accessories line, that never was released.

When CassetteMan was to be produced for the Transformers line, some design changes were made, including a different mechanism for the cassette-holder. So it was patented again in 1983. The Soundblaster mold (which could hold two cassettes instead of just one) wasn't released until 1987.

Hotrod wrote:

Ninja Sixshot wrote:and of course Raymond T. helped

Without him I would have looked stupid

His words, not mine!

Victory! Nice article there Hotrod, I learnt some new things there, especialy about the Go-bot side of the "war". As for the young kids line being called Go-bots... I like to think of it as winners justice.

Great article! Very nicely written and informative. I had no idea about the original airdates, number of theatres, etc.

Personally I never understood the irrational hate some 'elitist' Transformer fans have for the Gobots. Sure TFs are bigger, better, more accessorized, and had the better show, but this doesn't mean the Gobot figures themselves are bad. I continue to collect the better figures of both series.

Here's a question, how can "the war" expand from the cartoons into the comics when the comics came first?

The first comic came out on 9/1/1984, but the first episode aired on 9/17/1984.

Just check issue #1 and the original airdate:

http://www.seibertron.com/cartoons/epis ... rtoon_id=1

Hotrod wrote:Hasbro wanted to bring the Transformers into the world of comic books so they signed a deal with Marvel Comics to produce a Transformers comic book. Marvel was one of the most popular comic book companies. Marvel was involved with Transformers from the very beginning. The first issue of Transformers was released in September of 1984, about the same time as the cartoon began to air in the United States. The Transformers comic was set originally to only run for four issues, however, due to early success it would last for eighty issues. The success of the comic would help spread the popularity of Transformers. Transformers were now able to reach people who read comic books but may or may not have watched the cartoon.

Acually there were a few Gobots/Machine Robo comic strips produced in the UK!
Click here for more info

That's easily the most interesting article I've read in quite some time.

Wooo! Take that Tonka!

Frankly, I couldn't read the whole article because of how poorly it was written. I got down to, "Hasbro wanted to bring the Transformers into the world of comic books so they signed a deal with Marvel Comics to produce a Transformers comic book. Marvel was one of the most popular comic book companies." The factoid about Marvel being popular is just sort of thrown in there, and the whole article is loaded with similar comments.

"Takara decide to reset the Microman line and reintroduce the line as New Microman. It did not stop there. Both Hassenfeld Brothers and Takara decided to combine this line with the transforming accessories Hassenfeld had developed. The result was yet another line named Micro Change. This was just the beginning, because Takara was about to take the Micro Change line a few more steps forward."

The entire above paragraph was entirely pointless. It could have been omitted without hurting the article whatsoever. In particular, it has the phrases, "it did not stop there," and "this was just the beginning," which are textbook examples of things to leave out when writing.

I hate to be so critical, but these are grade school mistakes. It's got the facts in it, but it's a really horrible read. There's more to proofreading and editting than running a spellchecker.

Cool! Great job Hotrod! Awesome work on that article!

This was a nice article. Thanks.

Damn its long. Guess i should start reading now.

I cleaned up some of the code mistakes in the news article. I do not know why all the number were added in some of the words or why some of the word were cut I checked the orginal copy I cut and pasted from and these mistakes were no present. I fixed most of them in the news report.

Booda wrote:Frankly, I couldn't read the whole article because of how poorly it was written. I got down to, "Hasbro wanted to bring the Transformers into the world of comic books so they signed a deal with Marvel Comics to produce a Transformers comic book. Marvel was one of the most popular comic book companies." The factoid about Marvel being popular is just sort of thrown in there, and the whole article is loaded with similar comments.

"Takara decide to reset the Microman line and reintroduce the line as New Microman. It did not stop there. Both Hassenfeld Brothers and Takara decided to combine this line with the transforming accessories Hassenfeld had developed. The result was yet another line named Micro Change. This was just the beginning, because Takara was about to take the Micro Change line a few more steps forward."

The entire above paragraph was entirely pointless. It could have been omitted without hurting the article whatsoever. In particular, it has the phrases, "it did not stop there," and "this was just the beginning," which are textbook examples of things to leave out when writing.

I hate to be so critical, but these are grade school mistakes. It's got the facts in it, but it's a really horrible read. There's more to proofreading and editting than running a spellchecker.

No hard feelings man, you don't like my style. I actually like your critical eye.

As for the paragraph you said I should have left out. I almost did. However, it leaves out a important part of the evolution of the Transformers line which I felt was important. So in my opinion it needs to be in there. Maybe I could have flushed it out more and it would have helped. Everytime I tried it would end up going off topic with more particulars then were needed.

Maybe the line about Marvel could have been left out, but I was trying to stress the fact that Hasbro was going after the best so to speak. Maybe I did do it too many times and you didn't like which I can understand because it seemed like over kill.

Was this my best writing, no. Will my future articles be better, I sure hope so.

Cyberstrike wrote:

Hotrod wrote:Hasbro wanted to bring the Transformers into the world of comic books so they signed a deal with Marvel Comics to produce a Transformers comic book. Marvel was one of the most popular comic book companies. Marvel was involved with Transformers from the very beginning. The first issue of Transformers was released in September of 1984, about the same time as the cartoon began to air in the United States. The Transformers comic was set originally to only run for four issues, however, due to early success it would last for eighty issues. The success of the comic would help spread the popularity of Transformers. Transformers were now able to reach people who read comic books but may or may not have watched the cartoon.

Acually there were a few Gobots/Machine Robo comic strips produced in the UK!
Click here for more info

I did not find that when I was doing my research. From everything I read about Gobots was that it was only called Machine Robo in Japan When I get some time I am going to look into it more and update the article with this info. Thanks!

An interesting read. It has a few repetitive bits ("Margot Kidder was a popular actress at the time"..."Telly Savalas was a popular actor at the time" etc.", but there's several things there I didn't know about.

A couple of errors...

It's "Kojak"; no 'c'.

Hotrod wrote:Stacked filled the role of Ultra Magnus in the Transformers Movie.

"Stack".

And a glaring one:

Hotrod wrote:Orson Welles provided the voice of Unicron in the movie. Prior to his work on Transformers, a few of Welles credits were A Man of All Seasons, House of Card, London, and Waterloo.

There was another film, I seem to recall; a little-known piece called "Citizen Kane"...

Great work!! A very informative article.

Not bad, continue to do more of these. Diversify your dialogue, and you'll continue to shine with your articles. Madd props!

Word.

I am glad many of you liked it. I plan on doing a few more.

Hotrod wrote:I am glad many of you liked it. I plan on doing a few more.

Raymond T. wrote:

Hotrod wrote:I am glad many of you liked it. I plan on doing a few more.

Not to worry Raymond T., I'll just fly out to where you live and camp out in your front yard this time

Hotrod wrote:

Raymond T. wrote:

Hotrod wrote:I am glad many of you liked it. I plan on doing a few more.

Not to worry Raymond T., I'll just fly out to where you live and camp out in your front yard this time

You better stay away from my vault...

Raymond T. wrote:

Hotrod wrote:

Raymond T. wrote:

Hotrod wrote:I am glad many of you liked it. I plan on doing a few more.

Not to worry Raymond T., I'll just fly out to where you live and camp out in your front yard this time

You better stay away from my vault...

What vault