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The Zelda games are Linked?!

Postby UltraPrimal » Sun Feb 18, 2007 1:43 pm

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I was watching Gametrailers.com's Zelda Retrospective and I found it very interesting. Especially the part where they explain how all the Zelda games were connected. I've always thought of them as being new, totally seperate adventures, except for OoT and MM. This "Split Timeline" Theory is very interesting, but it's not official. So what do think? Do you like this theory? Do you have a different one? Or do you prefer to think of each one as totally seperate and unrelated, yet eirily similar adventures?
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Postby Shadowman » Sun Feb 18, 2007 1:47 pm

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We know Twilight Princess takes place several decades after Majora's Mask, and Wind Waker takes place a while after that.

I think it goes something like this:

Ocarina of Time
Majora's Mask
Twilight Princess
legend of Zelda (The first one)
Link to the Past
Wind Waker
Link's Awakening

However, I'm not sure where Minish Cap, Link's Adventure, or the Four Swords games take place.
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Postby Autobobby1 » Sun Feb 18, 2007 2:01 pm

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Huh, and here I was thinking that Link was the same person in every game. That's interesting.
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Postby Spoon » Sun Feb 18, 2007 2:03 pm

Zelda games linked by link
blargh blargh the pun!
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Postby Shadowman » Sun Feb 18, 2007 2:26 pm

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Autobobby1 wrote:Huh, and here I was thinking that Link was the same person in every game. That's interesting.


Unless his age fluctuates like crazy, no. Wing Waker takes place centuries after Twilight Princess. In TP, Link was an adult, in WW, he was a little kid.

One thing to realize on when each game takes place is the location of the Master Sword. In OoC, it took place in a large, beautiful temple. In Twilight Princess, it's in the same temple, only now that temple is crumbling. In LttP, it's in a forest, indicating that the Temple of Time is gone, but the Master Sword is in the same place.
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Postby Autobobby1 » Sun Feb 18, 2007 3:09 pm

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I finished watching the series. I'm wondering what TP and PH will do to the theory.

In Twilight Princess, we meet the third Link who has never been to Hyrule. (The opening of the story mode shows this.) This complicates things much farther. It cannot exist in Hyrule B because it is Adult Link, who is no longer there due to the ending of Ocarina of Time. This probably means that it comes after the GameBoy Color titles, but we never see this Link's childhood. (He doesn't speak, so maybe the villagers are just assuming this.) But the GameBoy Color titles are basically the same, so what does that mean? I have a theory that could probably go against every event after Ocarina in both timelines as well as all dual-timeline theories on Earth.

I suspect that after the GameBoy Color titles, everything is pretty much the same for both timelines.

Therefore, in theory, the timelines could become one again. Link from Twilight Princess would be the same Link from the GameBoy Color games. This is all too confusing...
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Postby Shadowman » Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:24 pm

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Wrong-o!

Just because Link from OoT became a child again doesn't mean A) he didn't age anymore (Remember, he's not a Kokiri), and B) That his decendents don't age.

The developers have said that TP takes place several centuries after Ocarina of Time. Link's lineage probably moved to Ordona Province after a while.

Just becasue he doesn't have text doesn't mean he doesn't speak. In OoT, there are pauses between character text, and then a character will say whatever Link said.

And one more thing: The location of the Master Sword is the key to linking the games together. (No pun intended) Look where it is in each game, and it'll make sense.
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Postby Ninja Sixshot » Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:48 pm

from wat i know, TP does take place hundreds of years after OoT, but the TP link is a brand new 1
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Postby Hotrod » Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:24 pm

I think I am going to have to watch these.
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Postby UltraPrimal » Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:57 pm

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Yeah, every Link, except for the one from OoT and MM, and the one from Zelda 1 & 2, and the WW and PH one, is a new and seperate Link in each game. But they're all decended from the ones who came before. Who, I think, is desended from the original hero, Gustal/Gustav(sp?), the Hero of Men. Who is also the original, or atleast earliest know, King of Hyrule. Which could make Zelda and Link related since they're both of Hyrulian royal blood. :-? Good thing they never got too romantic, b/c that would be gross if they indeed were related. Which makes me wonder...

Let's say they are related. They both possess the power of the Triforce and only very special people can wield the Triforce. So if Ganon has the Triforce aswell, maybe he's related to Gustav too. :-? It would definately be interesting if they made a game about Gustal. It would probably clear up alot about the history and timeline of Zelda.

You know what I don't get? If some of these games take place hundreds of years between each other, why is there no technological evolution. I've been thinking about this since WW. The Kokiri evolved in to little tree guys and either the Gorons or Zoras evolved into bird people. I'm not sure which one it was, it's been a few years since I've played it. I think they said in the game the desended from Gorons, which is back up by them living on a volcano with a dragon. But that seems unlikely since Gorons were big, heavy, rock people. And there are actual gorons in the game. Which makes me think they're Zoras, b/c the leap fron finned fish to feathered foul is more local, and you don't see any Zoras in the water world of WW. :roll:

What was talking about? Oh right, evolution. There's oviously natural evolution in the series, but what about technolgical? We've seen technology in the games, but it's not reflected very much by the people. They don't seem to be making very big jumps. There's the telescopes we see in MM and WW. The advancement in boats and ships from TP to WW. The Tingle Tuner has got to be some kind of electronic. Maybe Tingle is from the future. :-? The appearance on cannons in TP and WW. But the people of Hyrule still seem to left in the dark ages. Don't get be wrong, I don't want to see Link's Master Sword become a light saber, or his hook shot become a Samus-style grapple beam. But I would like to see something new and different in the next game. How long will we be stuck with the same old iron boots and bow. You know, now that I think about it, maybe they have advanced a little bit. But what I don't like is how they're moving away from magic. Link doesn't seem to have as many magical powers as he did in OoT and MM. I mean, he doesn't even have a magic meter. I think this is the first time since the original LoZ on the NES Link hasn't had one.
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