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Postby Nemesis Cyberplex » Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:19 am

I'm watching those right now....pretty iunteresting stuff.

One thing that keeps bugging me about the Zelda franchise, though, is why do people keep insisting that the games are RPGs? Nintendo themselves have always clearly labeled them as adventure games, yet every time I ever see a review or hear some know-it-all fan say anything about them, they're called RPGs.
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Postby UltraPrimal » Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:47 am

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Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:I'm watching those right now....pretty iunteresting stuff.

One thing that keeps bugging me about the Zelda franchise, though, is why do people keep insisting that the games are RPGs? Nintendo themselves have always clearly labeled them as adventure games, yet every time I ever see a review or hear some know-it-all fan say anything about them, they're called RPGs.

I guess b/c you're so heavily and deeply into the story when you play it's like you are Link. Which is really what RPGs are about, feeling directly connected to the character. And not to mention Zelda games have always been living worlds like those you'ld find in an RPG.
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Postby Nemesis Cyberplex » Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:18 am

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Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:I'm watching those right now....pretty iunteresting stuff.

One thing that keeps bugging me about the Zelda franchise, though, is why do people keep insisting that the games are RPGs? Nintendo themselves have always clearly labeled them as adventure games, yet every time I ever see a review or hear some know-it-all fan say anything about them, they're called RPGs.

I guess b/c you're so heavily and deeply into the story when you play it's like you are Link. Which is really what RPGs are about, feeling directly connected to the character. And not to mention Zelda games have always been living worlds like those you'ld find in an RPG.
It's just kinda odd because aside from what you mentioned they really have no features that would consider it to be related to an RPG. Hell, in most cases anymore they'd probably be more related to platform games what with all the puzzle-solving & item-collecting you did.....could you actually do more platform jumping that you can.


Edit: I finally saw all of those.....took long enough to load.... & I have to say, I don't think their split timeline theory works. One of the things that stands out as not matching up is the maidens from LTTP being decendants of the Sages in OOT....which took place in their "Hyrule B"....yet LTTP follows A's timeline, where the sages were never assembled. I may be wrong, & possibly missing something, but it did stand out to me.
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Postby Hotrod » Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:21 pm

I think Nintendo should release an official history of the Legend of Zelda book. I know I would buy it.
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Postby Shadowman » Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:23 pm

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Hotrod wrote:I think Nintendo should release an official history of the Legend of Zelda book. I know I would buy it.


While that is a good idea at first, you have to realize that the whole thing would have to be rewritten every time a new game came out.
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Postby Autobobby1 » Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:57 pm

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Shadowman wrote:
Hotrod wrote:I think Nintendo should release an official history of the Legend of Zelda book. I know I would buy it.


While that is a good idea at first, you have to realize that the whole thing would have to be rewritten every time a new game came out.


Yeah, you never know where in the timeline a new game will end up and what it will affect. Just look at OoT. Before that, we all thought that Hyrule was a generic medieval kingdom (dragons, imps, elves, monsters, princesses, treasure, magic, the usual), but now we know that it was created by three goddesses.

It would be best to make a book after the series is officially over, in maybe another 20 years or so. :P
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Postby Hotrod » Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:50 pm

Shadowman wrote:
Hotrod wrote:I think Nintendo should release an official history of the Legend of Zelda book. I know I would buy it.


While that is a good idea at first, you have to realize that the whole thing would have to be rewritten every time a new game came out.


Good point.
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Postby Nemesis Cyberplex » Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:34 pm

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Shadowman wrote:
Hotrod wrote:I think Nintendo should release an official history of the Legend of Zelda book. I know I would buy it.


While that is a good idea at first, you have to realize that the whole thing would have to be rewritten every time a new game came out.


Yeah, you never know where in the timeline a new game will end up and what it will affect. Just look at OoT. Before that, we all thought that Hyrule was a generic medieval kingdom (dragons, imps, elves, monsters, princesses, treasure, magic, the usual), but now we know that it was created by three goddesses.

It would be best to make a book after the series is officially over, in maybe another 20 years or so. :P
If I were to guess, I'd say that Nintendo possibly dosen't want these games to be connected by a distinct timeline. From a creative POV, this makes sense, because then if you want to try something new or look at the series from a different angle, as Miyamoto(sp?) tends to do, fans would be going nuts about how certain parts of the backstory don't mesh up well when put in with the continuities of the other games.
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Postby Autobobby1 » Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:15 pm

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Shadowman wrote:
Hotrod wrote:I think Nintendo should release an official history of the Legend of Zelda book. I know I would buy it.


While that is a good idea at first, you have to realize that the whole thing would have to be rewritten every time a new game came out.


Yeah, you never know where in the timeline a new game will end up and what it will affect. Just look at OoT. Before that, we all thought that Hyrule was a generic medieval kingdom (dragons, imps, elves, monsters, princesses, treasure, magic, the usual), but now we know that it was created by three goddesses.

It would be best to make a book after the series is officially over, in maybe another 20 years or so. :P
If I were to guess, I'd say that Nintendo possibly dosen't want these games to be connected by a distinct timeline. From a creative POV, this makes sense, because then if you want to try something new or look at the series from a different angle, as Miyamoto(sp?) tends to do, fans would be going nuts about how certain parts of the backstory don't mesh up well when put in with the continuities of the other games.


You're backing up your opposition. That's exactly our point. New games would screw with an official history because they are out of order.
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Postby Nemesis Cyberplex » Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:44 pm

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Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:
Autobobby1 wrote:
Shadowman wrote:
Hotrod wrote:I think Nintendo should release an official history of the Legend of Zelda book. I know I would buy it.


While that is a good idea at first, you have to realize that the whole thing would have to be rewritten every time a new game came out.


Yeah, you never know where in the timeline a new game will end up and what it will affect. Just look at OoT. Before that, we all thought that Hyrule was a generic medieval kingdom (dragons, imps, elves, monsters, princesses, treasure, magic, the usual), but now we know that it was created by three goddesses.

It would be best to make a book after the series is officially over, in maybe another 20 years or so. :P
If I were to guess, I'd say that Nintendo possibly dosen't want these games to be connected by a distinct timeline. From a creative POV, this makes sense, because then if you want to try something new or look at the series from a different angle, as Miyamoto(sp?) tends to do, fans would be going nuts about how certain parts of the backstory don't mesh up well when put in with the continuities of the other games.


You're backing up your opposition. That's exactly our point. New games would screw with an official history because they are out of order.
Didn't know I was opposing anything....but okay, if you say so....
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Postby Shadowman » Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:24 pm

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Autobobby1 wrote:You're backing up your opposition. That's exactly our point. New games would screw with an official history because they are out of order.


That's called "Agreeing."

He wasn't opposing us in the first place.

Don't think that everyone is against you.
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Postby DISCHARGE » Sat Feb 24, 2007 1:17 pm

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So where does Zelda's Adventure, Wand of Gamelon and Faces of Evil belong in the timeline? I have never played these since they were made for the Philips CD-I. Or are they just a different Zelda world all together?
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Postby Shadowman » Sat Feb 24, 2007 1:20 pm

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DISCHARGE wrote:So where does Zelda's Adventure, Wand of Gamelon and Faces of Evil belong in the timeline? I have never played these since they were made for the Philips CD-I. Or are they just a different Zelda world all together?


They're non-canon. And to be fair, we should just forget they exist.
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Postby Autobobby1 » Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:40 pm

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They were not made by Nintendo, so they're just abominations of the name "Zelda."
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