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Re: There needs to be an Autobot in DOTM that joins the Decepticons.

Postby soundwave007 » Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:02 pm

it will be unicron, ive already explained why he is the guy in the trailer, he will be recovered by the autobots and pretend to be on there side, then he will turn on them and either join the decepticons or be on his own side
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Re: There needs to be an Autobot in DOTM that joins the Decepticons.

Postby Dr.Zoidberg » Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:32 pm

Motto: "Sweet something of some place!"
Some of the Toys from ROTF had a Black bumblebee. This colour scheme has occurred on a few more bumblebee toys more recently. I know it's not likely but I wondered back then if this might be an evil or decepticon version of bumblebee. I'm a great believer in that looking at the toy ranges can give major hints as to potential story lines, due to the fact that the toys have to be put into production at such an early stage.


Anyhew I guess the title from one of the books or parts of the book or whatever that was mistakenly leaked on amazon states that the Autobots will be betrayed means it has to be there somewhere in the film. It could be simply betrayal by humans, turning them over to Decepticons to end the war on earth. This theme was hinted at in ROTF and there have been set photos with the graffiti slogans "autobots go home".

p.s. Dont shout at me if this has already been mentioned :)
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Re: There needs to be an Autobot in DOTM that joins the Decepticons.

Postby Red 50 » Tue Dec 28, 2010 7:16 am

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Noideaforaname wrote:
Burn wrote:
OptiMagnus10 wrote:But he has rather agressive and violent tendancies...


So Bumblebee ripping out Ravage's spine was just a cranky moment?


In all fairness, that was in self-defense. Ironhide had suggested killing Sam's parents and dog, none of whom made any form of threat.


Well, they were, in his words, "Irritating". When a bug is bothering you, do you try to ignore and protect it or try to get rid of it?

Tough he has higher morality to answer, than we with bugs. So he couldn't actally harm them.
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Re: There needs to be an Autobot in DOTM that joins the Decepticons.

Postby G1 Smoketreader » Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:53 am

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The Autobots could easily be betrayed by:

*Patrick Dempseys' character, who seems to start off as a friend or colleague of either Sam or Carly, but apparently tries to kill Sam at the end, (and appears to be driving around in a Car that looks a lot like SideWays, who was a courier, and therefore could easily have been a message-arranger with Dempseys character in the unseen backstory of TF1 and the time gap from TF1 to the opening sequences of RoTf).

*Wheelie, who is prone to be terrorized back into Decepticon submission (tho I secretly suspect he may die in the same rumored 'failed assissination attempt on Sam' which allegedly kills Mikaela instead: in fact I ASSUME Wheelie will become Mikaelas 'bonded pal' as Bumblebee is to Sam).

*The Stunticons/Wreckers, who could easily start off as one group and then become the other (and actually continue to switch back and forth between factions several times over).

*Sams friend, Leo, who MAY become resentful of Sams centrality to the robot war after Leo prided himself on the internet site he ran in University and want a bigger take on events, thereby opening possibilities for 'bargaining' with Megzy or Shockwave.

*Shockwave, whom the Autobots don't necessarily need to have heard of before they meet him in this reality (he may actually betray the Autobots and Deceps both, tho I wouldn't anticipate him as a herald of Unicron in motive, I'd defenitely see how the Dictator of Cybertron would have his own secret police out to finish off any upstarts, be they Megz, Opty and/or the fallen, with Shockwave himself tackling the heavier objective).

*The not-Jolt-may-be-Wheeljack-blue-car-fiber-optic-Einstein-hair-robot "Q" (or "Cue") has been given a generic Mad Scientist vibe by some discussions which could make him a crazy Autobot newcomer with closet Decepticon 'values' in the long run.

*The Humans themselves, who are already on a 'Robots:Go Home' campaign which implies to be growing in popularity.

*The big red firetruck: I've heard this may be another Prime (Sentinel, I think it was said). He wouldn't betray the Autobots by action, but by news: He could easily arrive with a 'dark secret' or 'dark revelation' that either dashes Autobot hopes altogether or plays out as a catch-22 situation where they're damned if they do and they're damned if they don't do something or other.

*The blue vintage car (assuming it's a Bot) that arrives with the 'important looking SUVs at the Chicago fight:
Remembering that 'Bee (at least we assume it's 'Bee) takes on a vintage mode at some point, and for a while, (and that 'Bee is effectively an undercover agent), it's possible another TF is causing trouble during the Cold War period that 'Bee is moved by Optimus to intercept and deal with.
There was time travel talk surrounding this news about the vintage 'Bee mode, too, and a time bridge could be provided by the Firetruck-bot, but ultimately, the vintage blue car (assuming it's a Bot) arrives at the Chicago fight in present day in its' antiquated Altmode, so if there is a time travel mission, it may be a failed one.
(My best guess is that there's a whole mini community of (active, not dormant like Jetfire) old Altmode Tfs hiding out somewhere remote since the Cold War, and Megz finds them first).

The Autobot Matrix: Figuratively speaking, it can be construed as having 'betrayed' Ultra Magnus on Junkion, and actually 'all Autobots in their darkest hour' as a consequence of that moment.
(Some fans or speculators could go so far as to say that 'whiney' and 'insecure' Rodimus Prime as the 'choice' of the Matrix was yet another betrayal as many have made points that he is/was/will be an unfit leader).
(Off topic: My personal counterargument here is that HotRod simply set the Matrix to him, and it wasn't reset properly before Ultra Magnus tried to interface with it,but still waiting for HotRod to 'click Yes' whilst Rodimus Prime was an appropriate crisis leader and migration chieftain whilst Optimus was perfect as the embodiment of the disappearing Cybertronian and Autobot way).


But of course all of this is just speculation.

If I had to gamble for an Autobot faction turncoat I would guess Dempseys' Character, the Matrix (or an AllSpark shard or other artefact) together with the Firetruck or "Q/cue" in that order.
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Re: There needs to be an Autobot in DOTM that joins the Decepticons.

Postby Slashercon » Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:15 pm

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If any of the autobots were to switch sides, it would probably be Sideswipe. For some reason, he seems like the brash reckless type warrior.
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Re: There needs to be an Autobot in DOTM that joins the Decepticons.

Postby DJLazer » Mon Feb 14, 2011 7:32 pm

Motto: ""Destruction is the right of all autobot beings""
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They should make one go to the decepticons perhaps punch/counterpunch But he was part autobot too.
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Re: There needs to be an Autobot in DOTM that joins the Decepticons.

Postby Red 50 » Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:54 am

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Slashercon wrote:If any of the autobots were to switch sides, it would probably be Sideswipe. For some reason, he seems like the brash reckless type warrior.


How would you know? We've only seen him a few times in the movies:
1. When he Tracked and Killed Sideways...
2. When he and the Others Regrouped after Prime's death (NOTE: at that moment EVERY autobot present had their weapons drawn)...
3. When he cut the net upon himself to jump out of a plane...
4. On the Battleground 2X (covering the soldiers and firing the D'Cons)...
5. Being pushed over by the shockwave created by teleporting The Fallen...

Okay, so maybe not so few times, but most of these had him in for about few seconds. We've seen him in a bit of action, but the personality...
We can't say for sure.
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Re: There needs to be an Autobot in DOTM that joins the Decepticons.

Postby hermit51 » Thu Jun 30, 2011 1:41 am

super spoiler alert
super spoiler alert
auper duper spoiler alert
Sentinal Prime betrays autbots and kills ironhide standing in front of him!!!!!!!!!!
i saw movie on opening night
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Re: There needs to be an Autobot in DOTM that joins the Decepticons.

Postby Red 50 » Thu Jun 30, 2011 12:09 pm

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So there was an Autobot turning D'con.

And it wasn't Ironhide after all.
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I think we all already know the answer to this... (SPOILERS)

Postby iaconportland » Thu Jun 30, 2011 1:25 pm

I think they did a fine job with Sentinel Prime's defection to the Decepticons. In fact, I knew it was a possibility because I read the Transformers Vault, which has the plot laid out nicely and neatly for all to see (I thought it was some Bay bullshit leaked to the writers of the book). I just didn't know how far they'd take it.
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