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There are many aspects of the Transformers that have been re-done in the movie series. I wouldn't be surprised if this makes it's way into the 3rd installment. It seems cliche but will be interesting to see who it is and how it's done. I would rather wait to see what happens when it hits theatres.

Burn wrote:

OptiMagnus10 wrote:But he has rather agressive and violent tendancies...

So Bumblebee ripping out Ravage's spine was just a cranky moment?

No, I just mean that Ironhide is just a bit angrier in general. Bumblebee isn't the one who aimed his weapons at Sam when he first saw him.
And that puny cat bot had it coming to him.

OptiMagnus10 wrote:

Burn wrote:

OptiMagnus10 wrote:But he has rather agressive and violent tendancies...

So Bumblebee ripping out Ravage's spine was just a cranky moment?

No, I just mean that Ironhide is just a bit angrier in general. Bumblebee isn't the one who aimed his weapons at Sam when he first saw him.
And that puny cat bot had it coming to him.

In defense of Ironhide, he's been in war. Primus knows how many friends he has lost.

About the fact that he pointed his guns at Sam: What would your reaction be, when you've been in a long-long war, probably lost dozens of your comrades, and then discover, that the key to end the war and probably save your race, lies in the hands of a young specimen of a small, weak and in comparision too his, a primitive race of organics. A frustration hard to hide.

And yet, he was willing to protect him from the Decepticons. TWICE!

OptiMagnus10 wrote:

Burn wrote:

OptiMagnus10 wrote:But he has rather agressive and violent tendancies...

So Bumblebee ripping out Ravage's spine was just a cranky moment?

No, I just mean that Ironhide is just a bit angrier in general. Bumblebee isn't the one who aimed his weapons at Sam when he first saw him.
And that puny cat bot had it coming to him.

I dunno, ripping someone's spine out seems more angrier than flashing your guns around.

I'm sorry for my previous angry statements and posts. I got a bit out of the line and, um, sorry for that.

It's just that I can't immagine Ironhide as a traitor. I mean, many have idolised him. It's like The Shattered Glass Optimus Prime. Him as a traitor, it just doesn't fit.

Burn wrote:

OptiMagnus10 wrote:

Burn wrote:

OptiMagnus10 wrote:But he has rather agressive and violent tendancies...

So Bumblebee ripping out Ravage's spine was just a cranky moment?

No, I just mean that Ironhide is just a bit angrier in general. Bumblebee isn't the one who aimed his weapons at Sam when he first saw him.
And that puny cat bot had it coming to him.

I dunno, ripping someone's spine out seems more angrier than flashing your guns around.

Yes, it is rather violent and...bloody..if you can say that about robots.

Now, this is gonna be out of topic...

I was wondering, if Soundwave's SAT-mode is that big compared to Ravage, then how big's gonna Soundwave be in the movie?

A defecting hero sounds too cliché to me. No, I don't want to see that. The film certainly doesn't "need" it; I don't think any story has ever needed a betrayal to be a good story.

I certainly don't think it could possibly be Ironhide. He's shown no qualities that would make him seem likely to join the 'cons. In fact, his main personality trait so far is "always eager to kill Decepticons." I really, really don't see him fighting alongside them without a full lobotomy on his personality.

Forward 2.0 wrote:I certainly don't think it could possibly be Ironhide. He's shown no qualities that would make him seem likely to join the 'cons. In fact, his main personality trait so far is "always eager to kill Decepticons." I really, really don't see him fighting alongside them without a full lobotomy on his personality.

Hmm, you have a point there.

Burn wrote:

OptiMagnus10 wrote:But he has rather agressive and violent tendancies...

So Bumblebee ripping out Ravage's spine was just a cranky moment?

In all fairness, that was in self-defense. Ironhide had suggested killing Sam's parents and dog, none of whom made any form of threat.